Since I a miserable pessimist I started this thread.

Cryptopsy
Sodom
Venom
Kreator
Napalm Death

i was thinkin more of:

Killswitch Engage
Unearth
Shadows Horrible
Trivium
blah blah, the "mall metal" stuff. I'm sick of hearing them on the radio and the worst is when i go to the mall. teeny boppin boys and girls sportin those shirts and hanging outside of Hot Topic. I have to see it everyday since I work at the mall and all FYE play is those bands. overated...

I don't really ever hear anyone talking about those bands unless it's making fun of them, I don't listen to the radio or go to the mall. You need to find better stuff to do with your time.

well when i work at the mall its all i see and hear.

Meshuga? i don't know how you spell it but that band really sucks. So does Suffocation.

I grew up on Napalm Death. I still love them but their political lyrics/views kind of piss me off. that goes for alot of bands i like. if they could just stop the bitching it would make them that much better but the music is good to me.

i only liked harmony corruption, back in 1990 it was the CD i adored. after that forget them.

Joe/NotCommon said:

I'm totally with you on Cryptopsy but the others??
Which albums have you heard by them? Maybe you haven't heard the right ones.

Oh, every band my house mate Marsi likes is over rated (except for King Diamond)

Dimmu Borgir
As I Lay Dying (still like them a little)
Slipknot
Killswitch Engage (still like them)
Cradle of Filth
Iron Maiden

King Diamond is SOOO over rated. I'm coming to your house and throwing bottles at your car for not thinking so.

Joe/NotCommon said:

You live with Marsi? Have you ever "accidentally" walked in on her while she was taking a shit?

Anyways, check out Persecution Mania, Welcome to Hell, Pleasure to Kill, and From Enslavement to Obliteration. If you still think they're overrated, well, no more reach arounds from me sir.

watchmaker

HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCKING LIKE KREATOR

black dahlia murder,
tony danza blah blah blah,
anything youthcrew that makes kids in basketball shorts climb all over eachother and point at the cieling,
sub-par death metal influenced bands that get popular off myspace ie: job for a cowboy, suicide silence, etc.
all the newer pellican rip off bands (booooring),
new rock and roll type bands, torche / bloodhorse / etc.
blah blah blah

Dragonforce

alot of 'tech-grind' bands seem overrated to me. random dissonance and cracked-out riffs does NOT equal good music.

99% of Death Metal bands

Marsi has some of the best taste in metal ever...

I'll agree on all the tech-grind-br00tal-jock-death, though sometimes it cranks out a great band.

Pretty much every death band but necrophagist.

i like some of the mall bands but people make them out to be more than they are.

This thread is lame. Kreator and Sodom are not over-rated. As I Lay Dying is wicked over- rated.

Joe/NotCommon said:

i will have to agree on all of those.

I agree about Cryptopsy, but there was a time when they were quite amazing and not overrated at all. How is Napalm Death overrated? It doesn't seem to me like many people pay attention to them anymore. Kreator and Sodom have created some of the best metal records in history...

Cecchini @ UML said:

hahaha dooood, you NEED to listen to more DM records. Necrophagist is the shit but that statement is out-of-whack.

DrinkHardThrashHard said:

agree 100%

also, the new Cryptopsy is fucking nasty. I didn't like it so much at first but after many listens it's really grown on me. Lord Worm is still sub-par though.

what the fuck is jock death metal???

DrinkHardThrashHard said:

Agreed; most of the time I just think it's flat out noise but I still listen to it.

Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza was nasty live; sounded exactly like they do on cd except the quality was much better.

Tool.

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:

indeed

every metalcore band ever

Anthony nli said:

my problem with DM is that almost none of it is creative, alot of is technically pleasing but there aren't songs there in my opinion... some people enjoy that style, i don't, i think for a style that has such good players they could write something that sounds a bit different from what 20000000000 other bands have been doing. I like Necrophagist because they go off and get all proggy and actually bring something new to the style.

Just my opinion, I don't think the style sucks I just dont think it deserves all the hype it gets.

Ozzy
Black Sabbath
Iron Maiden
Shadows Fall
Motorhead
AC/DC
Hatebreed (like em though)

There are others but I am too tired to think.

As long as there is even one person out there who doesn't like Black Sabbath and Motorhead, they will be underrated.

Cecchini said:

I would totally recommend the new Polish scene to you, these bands have REALLY gone back to the songwriting process. Check out stuff like Trauma, Dies Irae, Crionics, Lostsoul.

Rich Horror is the most overrated person ever.

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

Man, what??! WHAT?!?

They really are one of the greatest bands ever. And even though the metal world has sped up, 'progressed' (I say that tongue in cheek) or whatever anyone might call it, they really are the truest of the true.

He likes Hatebreed. His opinion is automatically void from this point on.

eh. if you like em, great. I think they are boring and Lemmy's vocals suck. In that regard, they are the same band as AC/DC to me. Never liked them one bit.

yeah I have to agree with bands like Job For A Cowboy.

BORRRING

BlackoutRick said:

dont you sing in a metalcore band?

Christraper said:

didn't know an opinion had to qualified. I love when people treat opinions like fact and right or wrong. makes them look stupid. sorry didn't mean to hurt your feelings because I don't like a band you do.

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

this is just.......wow...wow...

Out of all those bands, 4 of the top 5 are just about the best metal bands ever, you chose to write "(like em though)" next to Hatebreed....fucking HATEBREED.....wow....wow......This is why metal is now gay.

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

You've just made my inner child cry and then impale itself upon a rusted spike. I don't care too much for AC/DC, but Motorhead...man...Motorhead...

first off. thinking they are overrated does NOT equal me hating them. I like a lot of Sabbath but I don't think metal as we know it owes 3/4 of its soul to them. Maiden has some good songs, I think they are just played out and I don't see the life altering allure of them. I can't stand Motorhead or AC/DC though. And stop acting like I am the only person that likes hatebreed. I like them and think they're overrated. Fuck you. So what.

Well, I have nothing to do with the Hatebreed debate.

Maiden and Sabbath had their days, but I don't find their careers to be highly consistent myself. Maiden still kicks ass on stage though.

(so does Motorhead!)

Sorry, I think you misunderstood what I ment....Calling Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Motorhead, and AC/DC over-rated is just plain blasphemous.

and I respect that you feel that way. I just happen to disagree.

You can't disagree with fact.

I'm just being a dick now.

Hatebreed suck you homo. Lemme would burp hellfire at them and kill them all without even thinking twice. Then he'd ferment their remains, get drunk and go play way better music than Hatebreed.

Do it DUG!!!!!!!

Christraper said:

that was one of the stupidest things I've read on this board in a while. I get the point the first time. You don't like hatebreed and love Motorhead. I have an opinion of my own. Sorry that makes me a homo.

cradle of filth
cryptopsy
six feet under(their music is boring after about half a song)
trivium
metalcore

"metalcore" hahaha

you heard it here first, doug is a homo. a homo that get more pussy than anyone I know, but a homo none the less.
what a flaming fag.

DO IT DOUG!!!!!!!!!!!

hahaahahaha

DO IT DOUG!!!!!!

james raov said:

Hahaha. Do it fernando! Yeah!

I remember back when doug was in a band.. he would come from fucking to the show, stay for his band to play and then go back for more fucking.
what a dawg

That poor girl.

^HAHAHHAHA. Oh, the good days.

Motorhead can't be overrated when they just got recognized very recently. They should have won a Grammy years and years ago. I know the Grammys are gay anyway but what the hell, you know.

Grammy's are not gay. People are just jaded.

Motorhead may never have won awards, but they've always had the huge cult following, so I would say they've always been recognized (some of the singles from their first few albums even charted in the late 70s/early 80s).

godless rising..trying to relive the glory days of Vital Remains..and sounding half as bad.

i can't believe i forgot green day

is this supposed to be just over-rated metal bands?

sacreligion said:

Nah, the title didn't specify that.

i don't think black sabbath with ozzy were overrated, but the rest of their stuff was. the early albums just had a lot more to offer on so many different levels than any other band of that time period, or at least to my knowledge.

dragonforce, job for a cowboy and the whole "tech" scene i would agree are overrated.

true dat

all emo on victory records
all emo in general
99.9% of punk music(including pop-punk)
beastie boys
coldplay
weezer
glassjaw
converge

also

dream theater(i'd take liquid tension anyday)
andrew wk
cky
him
chimaira
clutch
norma jean
every time i die
from autumn to ashes

i could quite literally go on forever

Agreed on Dragonforce. They do the same shit other Euro power metal bands have done for over a decade, just showing off a little more, yet all of the sudden these kids all come out of the woodwork like it's some novelty. Not that I hate their music, but yeah, overrated.

Sam Sever said:


Ahahaha, yeah right!

damn, clutch overrated? i don't know about that one.

clutch sucks balls

Man, few bands have polarized the masses quite like Clutch. I love 'em and can't understand why they are so reviled.

ouch! that was a cheap shot, haha. honestly, i can see why people don't like em, but they're groovy as fuck, and i dig em.

Clutch? Overrated? Now you've struck a nerve. That's preposterous! I will admit though that true Clutch fans are like Jehovah's Witnesses trying to spread the word and we can be pretty annoying to people that don't get them. But to the everyday music listener, you mention Clutch and you get the blank stare or the "do they sound like *insert other car part here*" retardedness.

sacreligion said:

are you the fella from worcester that lives in a house with Sean Crutchley?

i like clutch. i've been a fan of theirs for at least a decade.

Clutch is pretty awesome.

I was an instant Clutch fan when I saw them open up for Sepultura in Pittsburgh back in 93. That and the video for Shogun was aces.

DrinkHardThrashHard said:

to a lesser extent, it seems like people are all about sodom and deathspell omega lately. not quite the same as the metalcore kids who all of a sudden love dragonforce, but it seems like over the last few months i've been seeing way more posts about sodom and deathspell omega. i'm not saying either band is overrated, i'm just wondering why they seem to be attracting throngs of new fans lately.

I've been listening to Sodom for a very long time, I guess the recent buzz is b/c of the new album and the fact they played live here and will be doing it again?

As for Deathspell Omega, I never hear anyone talking about them so I can't relate. They're a good French black metal band, in a crowd of many.

i like sodom and deathspell omega. i forgot about sodom's new album. that makes sense now that there would be buzz about them. i just don't recall people posting much about them here over the past 4+ years i've been posting here. overall, i'd consider french black metal very underrated, but not so much deathspell omega because they seem to get their due respect.

Sam Sever said:



FUCK YOU CUNT GIRL....GO FUCK YOU MOTHER IN HELL PISS ANT....HOPE YOU DIE IN A FIERY CAR CRASH FUCKTARD....

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

seeing as how i don't know this crutchley guy...no

i still think clutch is waaaaaaaaay overrated

maybe i was harsh when i said they suck...i just don't like em

but i do feel that they are overrated(by those who talk about them)

sacreligion said:

My bad. A simple no I don't would've sufficed. He said someone from Sacreligion lives in the place under him. I think it's your drummer. Anyways, I take it you think clutch is overrated?

clutch r00lz

hmmmm...that's odd

the only guy we ever lived under was a wino who would come down to our parties from time to time to have us try his latest find

what st. does this dude live on? a buddy of ours lived across the street from us and there was a guy above him who played guitar all the time...perhaps it was him

fuck clutch...they might be groovy but they do absolutely nothing for me

Suffocation, The Black Dahlia Murder, Killswitch Engage, THIN LIZZY, Mastadon, In Flames, and Nile.
Clutch can't be overrated, because they're just fucking terrible.
From Autumns Burning of the End in my Eyes of Ashes...I think that covers all *those* bands.

Yeah, most of you don't like me anymore.

Forgot Opeth...way talented, but still way overrated.

sorry, Ken.

tool

in metal...

Dimmu borgir, tool, slayer, megadeth, pantera, dragonforce (I still like them), Gamma Ray (still like them), Edguy, symphony x

Yeah, SUFFOCATION are totally over-rated!

pam nli said:

i agree. opeth is a favorite of mine, but i think they've reached overrated status.

H.I.M.
My Chemical Romance
Fallout Boy

pam nli said:

Didn't like you to begin with. Now I have a real reason.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

i can't tell if you're joking or not John. If not, then all I have to say is: "Effigy of the Forgotten" CMON!

Cecchini said:

i stand by my recommendation to listen to more DM records. There are plenty of prog/tech DM bands out there that are on par with or better than Necrophagist.

Effigy of the Forgotten is amazing, my favorite Suffocation.

I agree, many bands better than Necrophagist. I like them, but really just one-trick ponies. If it wasn't for the arpeggio noodling guitar wizardry, 3 people would listen to them.

Anthony nli said:

cynic would be a good band to start with. they belong in the underrated thread.

My thoughts:

Clutch fucking sucks. I too saw that tour with them and Sepultura. I'd actually seen Clutch a few times before that too, opening for various bands. I thought they sucked wicked bad. Then I saw them a couple years ago headlining because they had a couple of good opening bands. They still suck. I don't get what there is to like about Clutch at all.

The Grammy's are totally gay and completely meaningless when it comes to metal. Who gives a fuck what some industry assholes think about metal?

Sodom is getting all this recognition now because they finally toured the U.S a few months ago for the first time EVER. Of course they're getting talked about more than ever before. And it's about damn time too.

Suffocation. Yawn. Back in the day they were just another death metal band. Now they're revered like gods by some people. I don't know why. Must have something to do with all the metalcore kids liking them.





Its true that metal does not owe 3/4 of its soul to Black Sabbath. More like 9/10.

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Deathspell Omega is getting more recognition as of late because Kenose is available through Southern Lord, THAT FUCKING TREND LABEL.

doug was their old singer. jim was the one whose gf ruined things.

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:

makes sense

dreadkill said:

Oh, never mind then.

pretty soon no one is going to listen to music anymore because everything will be labeled as "overrated". it seems that more and more people are listening to what would make them cool, as opposed to what they really like. like Dimmu and Opeth, now that they have fans, are deemed "overrated", and if you listen to them you are a trendy something or other. its sad that the sanctity of music has been defiled by arrogance. its fucking music.

Yeti said:

indeed

SUFFOCATION are NOT over-rated.

every band that has more than 12 fans is overrated.

hahahahah more than 12?

Anything that is available internationally is trendy overrated bullshit.

Any band that tours outside of its home congressional district are sellouts.

To determine sellouts among bands that tour inside their congressional district if they drive to a show more than five miles from their basement they are overrated. If said band does not travel more than five miles but makes multiple copies of their cd-r demo it means that they are rich punks because they have a computer and a supply of ink and cd-rs and are therefore overrated sellouts. If a band can afford equipment they're sellouts too.

very true

Josh_Martin said:

I'm intrigued. wonder what that was about. Even in a case of mistaken identity did I get slagged because I don't like sabbath but like clutch?

doug, you listen to lots of dan swano, so you're cool in my books.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

can't wait to hear the new record

dreadkill said:

Sweet. Clutch and Swano. We're practically the same person.

Yeti said:

Some people actually just think Dimmu Borgir and Opeth have decreased in quality. I am one of them. And then some people have just always thought they sucked. Sorry.

I know what you mean about some people listening to what will 'make them cool', but on the flipside are just as many (no, MORE) rabid fanboys who will gush over a band no matter how miserable their output is/becomes because they too are striving for acceptance.

This polarity has always existed in musical opinion, it always will, and people will always listen to music until we evolve out of having ears.

DrinkHardThrashHard said:

i try not to be a fan boy about bands i like. i don't fool myself into liking subpar albums. i really enjoyed opeth's last album and thought it was much better than deliverance.

the new katatonia, on the other hand, was a disappointment. i like it, but it's definitely the worst album they've put out. all the fan boys act like it's their masterpiece, but it is so weak compared to their best albums.

dreadkill said:

I think it's just because for most people, the new Katatonia is their first Katatonia, since they are passive and wait for music to come to them. I think they've been going downhill for awhile now, I thought their peak was the knockout trilogy of 'Brave Murder Day', 'Discouraged Ones' and 'Tonight's Decision'. They still can come up with catchy riffs (a couple on the last two albums), but most of the records since 'Tonight's Decision' have been mild re-writes that often sound as if Katatonia wants to score the music for Laguna Beach or American's Top Model or something.

Black Dahlia Murder is seriously the worst. I saw that band like 3 or 4 years ago at Bills Bar when every metal kid, and metalcore kid was waterlogging their nuts with drool. It was one of the single most boring sets I'd ever seen. Watered down At the Gates riffs mixed with extra boring metalcore breakdowns you could have pulled out of Earth Crisis' stool samples.

My friend Frank put it the best way I can think possible to describe Black Dahlia Murder: "Every kid in that band was a complete and total nerd in their own unique way."

I went on Lambgoat that night and said I thought their set was boring. The thread got at least 50 replies from kids I didn't know calling me a faggot. OVER - RATED

Not to mention that one Black Dahlia Murder song which is a DIRECT ripoff of an At the Gates tune, riff for riff, tempo for tempo, with the notes changed b/c they thought they could pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

No.

pam nli said:

I agree with all of that minus Suffocation, and minus Nile "Catacombs...", and plus Soilwork

dreadkill said:

I really like Great Cold Distance. Don't know. Just like the vibe. Certainly better than Last Fair Deal but on par with Viva Emptiness. Tonight's Decision is my favorite though. Katatonia is one of the few bands that I like what they've become over the years as opposed to their initial output.

Josh_Martin said:

cool then i guess. at least it sounded like it ended up being a stab at Jim, which I'm all for.

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

The Rev sad you did a lot of fucking. I was just wondering how someone who did a lot of fucking could let some broad ruin his band. But it wasn't you who's broad fucked things up. I goofed.

mikexmike @ work said:

i agree completely. i hate that band. it's just a bunch of fat metalcore kids wishing they were at the gates. whenever someone quits the band, they find another fat metalcore kid to take the spot. that band is fatter than crowbar.

Notorious_D.U.G. said:

i like katatonia's post-brave murder day stuff better than their pre-BMD stuff. my favorite is tonight's decision, followed by discouraged ones, lfdgd/viva emptiness/bmd. if they had continued in the vein of bmd, i still would have loved them, but they probably wouldn't have been my favorite band.

bahahaha fatter than Crowbar

Yeti said:

hey hey hey crowbar kicked the fat bass player out, kirk is just big boned

no bass player is fatter than the dude from Carpathian Forest

Someone please post the pic where he has the arrow pointing down to his bare ass that reads "Insert cock here"

AC/DC
Black Sabbath
Ozzy
Zeppelin
Pink Floyd

I always get into fights with people because I don't like those bands.

dreadkill said:

YES! my band will never become overrated.

How can a metalhead not like Black Sabbath?
They ARE heavy metal. If Black Sabbath was the only metal band to ever exist, heavy metal would still be the greatest sub-genre of music ever.

Dissector said:

you not liking them and them being overrated is two different things. like them or not all of those bands besides Ozzy's solo shit has done good for heavy music

This thread is full of elitism. Everyone in this thread needs to get a fucking life.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

todd strange is a carpenter now.

Overrated said:

how do i go about acquiring a "life?"

I've noticed that people who complain about "elitism" always have shitty taste and never know what they are talking about when it comes to metal.
"Elitism" doesn't even exist. Its just an excuse for poseurs to tell themselves they aren't poseurs.

Josh_Martin said:

yeah, it's usually metalcore kids who bitch about elitism. by their standards, i'm an elitist, but i really just like what i like and hate what i think sucks.

Overrated said:

Your post is full of semen. Shut up poseur.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

True. Very good point.

Overrated said:

That includes you though...since you are in this thread.

Josh_Martin said:

Josh wins, again.

indeed he does. i believe there can be elitism, but 99% of the time idiots declare elitism because other people don't like the shitty music they listen to.

Josh_Martin said:


^That is awesome. lol.

Don't get me wrong here, I like bands I consider overrated. That's not a factor in what I like. I like a lot of stuff, all different kinds, but sometimes a band gets built up to something it isn't.

I stand by my statements, Clutch is fucking terrible, and Suffocation is not the entity they are built up to be. Deal.

BornSoVile said:

ahh but the "u" in posers takes away a few points

this isn't fucking frasier here!

sacreligion said:

That's the actual correct way of spelling it though.

you're crazy

hmmm must be the age group of people on here. Whenever a subject like this comes up i've noticed black sabbath is mentioned 100 times, i only see 2 here.

black sabbath has to be one of the best bands ever, and i'm sick of people saying they're over-rated just because paranoid is over played on the radio. there is a difference between over played and over rated!

same goes for acdc, although i'm starting to see girls that have never listened to metal or rock in there life wear pink acdc shirts, and "gangsta rappassssssss" too. wtf is this about?

I'm going to go with what WWW said and that they're not over rated.

eddie said:

Seeing as I'm one of the 2 that mentioned Sabbath, it has nothing to do with being overplayed. I don't listen to the radio to know if they are overplayed. Again I like them for the most part; I just don't think they are that good to deserve all the praise that metal heads give them.

Again . . . overrrated does not equal overplayed. and overrated does not mean the band is automatically hated.

pam said:


Opinions are opinions but when you had "Deal" to the end of the sentence you sound as if you are stating fact and we should drop what we're doing and agree with you.

deal

Caliban is over rated.
Undying was way over rated.
Opeth... seriously, when everyone started taking a dump over that band I thought everyone was just being sarcastic. I have no idea what the hell is going on when that band plays. Over-rated.
Structure of Lies was over rated and boring.
Iranach was over rated.
Premonitions of War is foolish, and over rated.
Bleeding Through is mega-over rated. (and pretty fruity if you ask me)
Killswitch Engage has, and will always be over rated. (no, I didn't like their old stuff)
Shadows Fall has been overrated for a long time.
Overcast is one of, if not the single most over rated band of all time.

when I clicked on this thread, I knew that overcast was going to be on your list.

Sam Sever said:
Dude your a fuckin' ass. They are unsigned, have a 6 song demo, just started playing out. So how is that Over-rated? And they sound nothing like Vital, nothing at all! Fuckin' moron!

XmikeX @ work said:

I think Opeth fans stem from kids who's older brothers listened to Queensryche instead of Slayer.
Just a theory.

saw them recently.they didnt suck.

I hate Opeth.

I honestly can not believe there is another one of these threads though.

Alright, Elitist arguement over What bands are 'over rated' season 26 episode 7 take 5 : Action!

i like opeth, queensryche and slayer

Overrated said:

this entire fucking board is full of elitism! where the fuck have you been?

GodlessRob said:

dont worry about what people say man. when someone uses the term "overrated" they arent following the meaning of the word anymore. overrated has replaced "i dont like this band".

anonymous said:


I meant like, deal with my feeling that way. I should have worded it better I guess.

That was me, not Jon. Dammit. ^^^

no you shouldnt have worded it better. they knew exactly what you meant, but had to chime in with 2 cents to sound intelligent

The Ramones are over-rated, godfathers of pop punk if you ask me.


i fuckin hate pop punk

yes. there is a good example of an overrated band

but then again....

every band on notcommon

Yeah, all those bands are so huge.

Yeti said:

she's not going to sleep with you.

hahhaha

fuck richard horror.

Fuck women.

fuck

It's funny seeing a bunch of people shitting on metalcore when most of the people on this board like or play in metalcore bands.........

All of the bands (minus Exodus) at the Metal/Hardcore Fest this year are over-rated..........

I'll admit it. I like metalcore.

Porphyria