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returntothepit >> discuss >> Some jackass on Facebook is claiming there is a ban on all ages shows in MA? by Sacreligion on Mar 5,2010 3:22pm
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toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:22pm
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/group.php?gid=353625853240

ITT: That dude is out of touch with the local music scene.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 5,2010 3:24pm
it's not a dude



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:25pm
If she claims there are no all ages shows in MA then I'm allowed to call her a dude on principle.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Mar 5,2010 3:26pm
Sacreligion said[orig][quote]
If she claims there are no all ages shows in MA then I'm allowed to call her a dude on principle.


I'll second this motion, therefor it passes.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Mar 5,2010 3:30pm
MA does seem to be a state where all ages shows aren't the most common thing in the world though. I wish there were more of them, though I'm over 21 now so I guess I don't need to worry about this anyway.

Just remembering all the times there were cool looking shows at a bar or something when I was in high school bums me out.



toggletoggle post by ED FROM GOODBURGER at Mar 5,2010 3:31pm
I'M A DUDE
HE'S A DUDE
SHE'S A DUDE
'CAUSE WE'RE ALL DUDES, HEY!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 5,2010 3:32pm
that name is familiar

I think she used to post here.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:34pm
Club Oasis does all age matinee shows Sundays with the bar open and can be opened early for a bigger show. Our liquor license says that all people under the age of 18 have to be out by 10 though, including bands.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:38pm
Check out this little chestnut:

"Why All-Ages Shows Should Be Allowed in Massachusetts:

- They work in other markets (Upstate NY, CA, etc.)

- The cutoff age for people in MA going out to see live, local bands is 26, according to a 2007 study. After that, they move to uber-suburbia and cite "adult responsibilities" like dayjobs as an excuse for not going out. If you get a kid hooked in young, live showgoing will be engrained in them for life.

- Kids have the greatest amount of disposable income; they don't have mortgages and car payments to worry about. They'll buy tickets to a show, and a band's merch. Bands might actually be able to not lose money on shows. Wow, what a concept!

- Alot of clubs use the excuse, "Oh, kids are gonna try to underage-drink." We know that's B.S. First off, many of the born-post-1990 set are militant straightedgers. Secondly, things haven't changed much since the 80's - underage drinking happens in vacationing parents' basements - NOT in bars. Kids just want to see live music. Besides, it's the bouncer or bartender's responsibility to be properly checking ID's.

- Another excuse clubs use is, "Well, the bar won't make money." Make all shows ALL-AGES/21+ to drink with proper ID.

- Why should the ClearChannel (aka LiveNation) affiliates have 100% monopoly on all-ages shows? They only book the big-name acts. It's time for the local scene-eschelon promoters to have say and pull. And it should be about UNSIGNED LOCAL BANDS.

- Young bands should be able to cut their teeth playing on real stages, not just someone's basement or garage.

- Restrictions on what segment of the populace is allowed to enjoy live music = CENSORSHIP based on demographics. The arts should be able to be enjoyed by all at will.

Contact your congressperson and get the ball rolling!
Bands will benefit.
Clubs will benefit.
Young people will benefit.
Our entire scene will be rejuvenated. "

Bitch be retarded.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Mar 5,2010 3:38pm
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
that name is familiar

I think she used to post here.


Dude... it's the "Fuck the Fire Department" girl.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:40pm
IT IS! HA!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Mar 5,2010 3:42pm
Sacreligion said[orig][quote]
- The cutoff age for people in MA going out to see live, local bands is 26, according to a 2007 study. After that, they move to uber-suburbia and cite "adult responsibilities" like dayjobs as an excuse for not going out. If you get a kid hooked in young, live showgoing will be engrained in them for life.


bingo. that is exactly what happened to me. going to shows became part of my life.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:45pm
It's a good point...I'm particularly fond of how she said "hooked in" and said that they have "disposable income". Obviously they should spend it at her all ages shows that can't happen or something.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 5,2010 3:45pm
I don't like all ages shows. backd.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 3:46pm
I bet you did when you were 16.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Mar 5,2010 3:51pm
One advantage of growing up in RI was that the only place in Providence NOT doing all ages shows was the Safari Lounge and that's long gone. I don't think I've ever seen a show in Providence with an age limit.



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Mar 5,2010 3:51pm
All Ages shows are great and it's not that difficult to have one that can also severe liquor to the 21+ crowd.(old man voice) In my day there were All Ages shows every weekend and the only problems were violence related and I think that b.s. has died down considerably.
Alot of the lack of AA shows is also a direct result of the Don Law Co/Clear Channel/Live Nation/Lyons Group unwritten law towards their booking policies 'No Niggers-No Kids'.*


*before you start crying that's a direct quote from a hugely influential talent booker within that organization



toggletoggle post by FANBOI at Mar 5,2010 3:53pm


I LOVE ALL AGES SHOWS



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 5,2010 3:54pm
Lamp said[orig][quote]
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
that name is familiar

I think she used to post here.


Dude... it's the "Fuck the Fire Department" girl.


Fully predicted this from the first post.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 5,2010 3:55pm
Sacreligion said[orig][quote]
I bet you did when you were 16.


I was writing for a webzine when I was 16 and also was already well over 6 feet. Used to go in no problem. can't relate :(



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Mar 5,2010 3:56pm
KPANZER said[orig][quote]
All Ages shows are great and it's not that difficult to have one that can also severe liquor to the 21+ crowd.(old man voice) In my day there were All Ages shows every weekend and the only problems were violence related and I think that b.s. has died down considerably.
Alot of the lack of AA shows is also a direct result of the Don Law Co/Clear Channel/Live Nation/Lyons Group unwritten law towards their booking policies 'No Niggers-No Kids'.*


*before you start crying that's a direct quote from a hugely influential talent booker within that organization
SEVERE?! jeezuz, don't get old kids..



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 5,2010 4:02pm
ITT: fuck the fire department girl pissed because there are in fact all ages shows and she isn't getting any of that action



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Mar 5,2010 4:04pm
First off, many of the born-post-1990 set are militant straightedgers.

This is the dumbest fucking sentence I've ever read. You know how many straight edge people there are in Providence? ZERO!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 5,2010 4:06pm edited Mar 5,2010 4:07pm
And beside that point, straight edge before 21 is lulzy.

I think someone recently said that, "Straight edge before 21 is like a 700 pound man claiming he is single because he's not really looking for a relationship right now."



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 4:07pm
ITT: My realization that I should go to more PVD shows.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 5,2010 4:08pm
Where's all the old school rttp posters circa 2003 when you need them?



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Mar 5,2010 4:09pm
That's right about the time I showed up. Good times, good times.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard at Mar 5,2010 4:11pm
Lamp said[orig][quote]
One advantage of growing up in RI was that the only place in Providence NOT doing all ages shows was the Safari Lounge and that's long gone. I don't think I've ever seen a show in Providence with an age limit.


the irony being that the Safari NEVER carded. I was drinking in there when I was a sophomore in highschool. I LOVED that place....so dingy and dark: perfect for shit head metal shows.

Nefarious V Hirudinea was my favorite brawl in there.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 5,2010 4:12pm
Nefarious was always fighting someone.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Mar 5,2010 4:17pm
I never went to Safari... I didn't have a license until I was 18 (2005), so the days of me going to shows on my own pretty much came after that place.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard at Mar 5,2010 4:20pm
Hahah yeah they were. Rusty and Marc were easily roused...one time the club dancer party kids were in the alley that the Safari was located in and started some shit with a metalhead smoking outside the Safari...next thing you know the entire show was outside talking shit to these kids and out of no where a rock got thrown and hit my GF at the time in the face and that set it off...these wiggers got STOMPED literally..

My GF had to get her chin stiched up and still has a scar from it...



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Mar 5,2010 5:23pm
this is the lady that used to book skybar shows i think



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Mar 5,2010 5:34pm
She works for school of rock. I think the message behind all of this is that she wants the kids who go to school there to be able to play any "adult" venue.



toggletoggle post by jvv at Mar 6,2010 1:12pm
i miss safari that place was great!!! and free usaly if i rember right



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 6,2010 1:42pm
LOL. @ bar punk promoters always wanting to be part of the "real" music biz



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Mar 6,2010 3:29pm
dope



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Mar 6,2010 3:32pm
I wish they would, hate those 14 year olds getting dropped off by mom.

Though I think I'm slipping into the black metal style of just forsaking concerts all together...I haven't listened to a band in a while that tours...besides finntroll...which arrive soon with moonsorrow mwhaha



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Mar 6,2010 3:41pm
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
I wish they would, hate those 14 year olds getting dropped off by mom.


We were all there once. Relax.



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