does anyone have or know of any good places to find them?

i clicked thinking this thread would contain answers. my bad.

hopefully it will soon.

The internet.
If you want something wicked simple just boil or steam some kale, then roast it in the oven with some cheese on top till the cheese caramelizes.

here's one - steamed broccoli

Mashed cauliflower and garlic (not too much garlic because it overpowers the cauliflower) and butter.

You have to steam the cauliflower.

steamed cauliflower...
sounds good.

Moosewood restaurant cookbooks are amazing.
http://www.recipezaar.com/recipes/vegetarian
http://www.theppk.com
http://sodelicious.org/

I am obsessed with kale lately. Shit is so good.

http://planetgreen.discovery.com/food-heal...-tofurkey-recipes-thanksgiving.html

Mashed cauliflower is the shit when done right, easily holds it own against mashed potatoes.

Plants have feelings too.

I don't agree with vegetarianism from a dietary standpoint. I get from a moral standpoint but there are ways to get meat that was treated well and killed with uh... dignity.

Either way, vegetables taste good.

Yeah, by either killing it yourself or paying a fucking fortune for free-range meat. I'd rather just not eat it.

Besides, how can you disagree with what someone else wants to eat?

They do. I love all food.. But ribs and a nice steak are too good for me to quit eating meat. I had chicken fried steak the other night with some nice fried okra and veggies. okra is great.

Maybe "agree" isn't the best way to put it. I don't get it, maybe. I just think humans evolved as omnivores, not just carnivores or herbivores.

I thought I'd miss steak and stuff, but I don't. I dunno...just not for me.

I'm healthier than I've ever been, I've lost almost 50lbs in the last year (killed all the baby weight and then some) and I actually know what foods give you iron, protein, etc. I know way more about food than I ever did, and I'm even starting to like cooking.

Best decision I ever made after quitting smoking. You can all lick me.

Actually Brian, vegeterianism is the healthiest diet one can have IF done right. Ask a registered dietitian.

We're built to breed, too...but having kids isn't for everyone, right?

juicy steak... Nothing in the veggie world compares.

Hey Mark, we've cleared our 1-year recently. I think we both went veggie the same time, right?

i been eating cucumber salad recently. wicked easy to make too - just slice up cucumbers and mix in italian dressing. yum.

My daughter calls it "juicy steak" all the time. Never just "I'd like a steak", it's always "I want juicy steak". She's not on board with the veggie thing, to say the least.

Well, I'm not going to get into dietary things here because I'll just get trolled. I will agree that if you're eating vegetarian, you are MUCH MUCH healthier than the standard american eating the standard american diet. As for it being the HEALTHIEST - I disagree. Though I can't say that each person should be eating the same kind of diet.
And yes, it is possible to get what you need for macro- and micro-nutrient intake from vegetarianism but you're probably missing out on some good ole saturated fat. Unless you eat like two avocados a day and only use coconut oil to fry things.

I believe you're correct, Pam. 1 year and 20 days for me.

...vegetarians eat things other than vegetables. Good fats aren't hard to come by. ;)

Actually, yeah I guess I'm kind of lumping you guys in with vegans. Fuck vegans. I'm down with vegetarians.

Do you eat eggs? If so, you're pretty much all set. Do you take Omega-3 or fish oil supplements?

Post more recipe sites or GTFO. I need some new sites.

Let me know if this works:
http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0By25e9NqbJ...Y0LTliOTYtOWVjZTU5NzU2ZTE4&cindex=7

Thus why I said "if done right" it is the healthiest. It's just hard.

On another note, I'm in Qdoba near South Station and they're playing "Pop That Pussy" by 2 Live Crew. Best lunch break ever.

You might need a gmail account to see that, not sure.

I'm actually a pescetarian, I eat dairy and the occasional wild fish. I don't eat most seafood because I have damage with dragger fishing, but wild salmon? SO good.

I could never do vegan, fuck that noise.

Score! thanks!

I'm fucking starving now.

Taking fish oil technically would negate vegeterianism...I eat a fuckton of eggs.

Juicy steak. Pams daughter knows what's up.

I still don't think that "if done right" or not, it's the healthiest but it falls into some of the healthier ones. It all depends on if you eat grains and legumes. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a curious fatty.

http://www.bryant-terry.com/site/
this guy has some really good recipes.
and pop that pussy at qdoba is great.

She's as carnivore as they get. We don't eat meat here really, but at school and at her dads she eats every dead animal she can get her hands on to make up for me torturing her with healthy food at home.

Has anyone here read The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith. She was an intense vegetarian before doing some research. I haven't read it myself but I keep seeing it recommended to vegetarians.

lol hey gauyz I heard this thred was about food. Lol I eat almonds haha and one big meal at night lol haha my shits are bigger then the shits blue did in raising cubrix lol hahaha

Don't get me wrong, I agree that a lot of veggies eat like shit and get all snotty on other people as if they're eating healthy just because they don't eat meat. Eating well IN GENERAL is a lot of work and requires you know really know what you're eating. I think it's pretty cool when people know what they're putting into their bodies regardless of whether it's the diet I chose for myself.

I don't give a shit what anyone else eats. But the 300lb bitches I've met that try to tell me they are veggie and eat well drive me insane.

No you don't, or you wouldn't be fucking huge.

Why read that when I could just come here and be told why what I eat is stupid?

Where's hoser to call me a faggot?

HAHAHA Man I haven't had any almonds in a while. Especially anal almonds.

Woah, I was never trying to offend or anything. Like you said, I respect any decision to want to eat healthier. Especially if it's ACTUALLY healthier.
I respect vegetarianism for the point that it is much much MUCH healthier than the refined sugar and carb infested standard american diet. You especially have it all figured out being a pescatarian, seriously.

Analmounds.

I was just joking around. ;)

What you eat is stupid and Hoser wanted me to tell you you're a faggot.

Ironically, hoser and I completely agree on one thing, I think: if you're going to eat meat, you should kill it yourself. Factory farming is fucking gross and cruel, hunting is at least natural.

I want to start figuring how to go about hunting.

You need to take a hunter safety course in order to get your license.

IMHO it should be her own choice. Just like religion.

WRONG I take DEVA Vegan Omega-3 DHA so eat a veggie dick.

You need some DHA and EPA. Stay away from ALA.

I never said anything about Omega 3s, I said something about fish oil. Your reading comprehension sucks as bad as your typing, HIPPIE.

Last time I ate meat was nov 1998, chinese chicken fingers. From 1994 to 1998, I would eat a mcchicken or chicken fingers 2-3x a year. I went to eat a mcchicken in the beginning of june 1999 and never got one. Never looked back. Between that time, I had to snap the neck of a retarded turkey to put it out of it's misery. That was enough for me.
from 1989 to 2003-ish my friend and I had a bet to see who would go with out eating red meat the longest. I won.

Omega-3's are why you take fish oil.

"Dietary sources of omega-3 fatty acids include fish oil and certain plant/nut oils. Fish oil contains both docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), while some nuts (English walnuts) and vegetable oils (canola, soybean, flaxseed/linseed, olive) contain alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)."

that's like saying to drink a 3 rack for the taste. not cause it gets you wrecked and makes you forget about your shitty life.

ALA has to be converted to DHA and EPA for use. IIRC some is used immediately but the majority has to be converted.

Mark drinks 3 racks for the taste.

You just quoted something that says you can get Omega 3 from sources other than fish oils.

Omega 3 isn't just one thing. It's Omega 3 fatty acids. With an S. While I'm sure there are some plants that have DHA and EPA, the majority of ALA which gives you the least benefits.

That being said, I take Omega 3 supps every day derived from fish.

Though I guess I'm just being a curious fatty.

I know what you're saying, I'm not syaing anything against it all. I should have said IN MY OPINION, taking fish oils negates being a vegetarian, since you have to kill the fish to get the oils. This is turning into a completely different debate now since Aaron read what I typed wrong, or some shit.

Fish don't die. They just listen to Composted.

Slamfish are the best fish.

I agree. If she didn't get it at school and her dad's, I would cook it for her. Not every night, obviously , but a few times a week. That's the plan for summer vacation.

Same goes for the boy child. My main concern is raising them to not think they need to eat meat for breakfast, lunch and dinner everyday. I have no intentions of bringing up two fat, stupid American kids with cholesterol problems.

That said if those rotten kids don't like what I cook they can just go to bed hungry.

How does animal meat/fat correlate with obesity and cholesterol problems? I should bring up the farce that was Ancel Keys.

These are always the best threads to read. They make me feel obese.

I make a mean puttanesca with wild rice tempeh sauce to put over pasta. Adding more kalmatta olives, sauteed onions and mushrooms and steamed spinach to make it more of a primavera.

Come back, Pam. I want to argue about saturated fat.

Ugh. Tell you what: you eat your bacon/sausage breakfast, roast beef lunch and steak dinner every day and I'll eat what I eat and we'll see who is still alive in 20 years.

Do I get to go to your funeral? If I guided you towards some online literature, would you be willing to read it? You don't have to suddenly change your eyes but I like getting the word out.

Earth Balance margarine

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 Tbsp
Amount per Serving
Calories 100 Calories from Fat 99
% Daily Value *
Total Fat 11g 17%
Saturated Fat 3.5g 18%
Monounsaturated Fat 3.5g
Polyunsaturated Fat 3.5g
Trans Fat 0g
Sodium 120mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 0g 0%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Protein 0g 0%
Vitamin E 10%
Est. Percent of Calories from:
Fat 99.0% Carbs 0.0%
Protein 0.0%

hahaha. Asshole.

there's a good source

DEATH TO BLOODMOUTHS
HALFBLOODS TOO
VEGANISM OR GTFO
RAHRAHRAH

No thanks. I don't eat meat nor do I ever plan to again so there is little point in reading about how wonderful meat is. I'm sure others would be into it, though?

I am plenty healthy, feel awesome, finally got rid of the heartburn issues I had for a decade, and am finally back to a good weight without even having to try to lose weight, that's proof enough for me that I'm doing what is best for me.

lol.

Yeah, have you seen the ingredients. That shit's the worst for you. I'm not saying LOL ALL FAT'S GOOD FOR YOU. I'm saying there's an incorrect stigma thanks to the low-fat craze started by Ancel Keys and his fraud of a study.

I'm not really talking about meat per se. Just the fats in it.

You mean the fats you don't need meat to get?

You need meat to get all the different kinds.

Then why am I healthy?

Well, I'm not really out to convince you or change your mind or anything so I guess I'll stop where I am. I'm not saying you aren't healthy or that it's impossible to be healthy on a vegetarian diet, you're just not 100% optimal - probably more like 80 - 90%.
Anyway, if you want to read some shit check out:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/

That site, in general, is the ultimate resource for healthy eating.

And here is a source from actual doctors and not some schmuck who legitimately answers the question "How do you stay so ripped, dude?" on his about me page.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262

lol, Have you ever stopped to think about where doctor's get their information?
From poorly executed studies paid for by Big Agra/the Gov't. If you read the first saturated fat link you'd see information on Ancel Keys' study that completely disproves it.

And if you really need some more scientific information regarding saturated fat (I always show people Mark's Daily Apple first because it's the most down to earth) then I can link you to some more places.

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/
http://www.paleonu.com/
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/
http://fathead-movie.com/

Sorry dude, I don't buy into the big brother guberment deliberately withholding the secret of how wonderful saturated fats are.

And there's always the glaring example, and I'm not being a bitch here, that you appear to be overweight, which seems to be a common trait among people who insist I am not as healthy as they are.

Moreover, the entire point of your argument here is that I cannot get this fat eating what I do, and I can. Unless you think the doctors are making that up, too.

lol Ya I ate low fat before. Now I eat high fat, medium protein, low to no carbs, and I've lost 25 pounds and gained about 10 lbs of muscle in about 3 months.

I feel like a dietery aril.

I'm down 50lbs since this time last year and I could crack your skull with my thighs...doing exactly the opposite of what you're doing. Ever think maybe JUST MAYBE, you are the other muscleheads don't have the only path toward health and fitness?

Can we turn this thread into a "Who dies first? Pam v. Martins: Slowest. Race. Ever." thread?

I'm pretty sure I've already said that I'm not 100% sure that mine is the only way... just that it's the way that works for me. If anything was misconstrued as the opposite, I apologize but you're just as quickly calling me wrong, don't forget.

She's older, has two children, and is a vegetarian. Is there any competition? She's going to crack my skull with her thighs before the race can even start.

the fuck does this mean, fatty??

This made me lol.

All I fucking wanted was some recipes.

dietary conspiracy theory

I gave you some!

MOAR!

For real though, good for you on the weight loss, that's awesome...you filthy meat-eating neanderthal.

Thanks! I'm looking for more vegetarian recipes but I can't really find anything as cool as that one google docs link.

The best thing is to just get a whole bunch of coconut oil and stir fry every vegetable you have in it.

Christ. You're worse than hoser about being veggie.

I can feel the budding love in thi- oh wait, pams a woman.

kiss me, blue.

At least I'm not calling you faggots for not eating meat. Just saying some real shit

Me? I'm really not. I don't give a flying fuck what other people eat with the exception of my children and I feed them meat.

oh nevermind. I see what you did there.

Pfff you know I love all you assholes, for some reason.

He's calling me gay.

Who, me?

You're gay?

Nope.

Damn, it was worth a shot.

WHAAOOOOOOOOOO

dudes. exercise and eat fruits and veggies with other sensible foods. eat less to burn body fat. designer diets are lame.

exercise, exercise, exercise!!! humans have the best endurance in the entire animal kingdom because our early ancestors busted their ass for a meal with teamwork and endurance as their only weapons. take advantage of what your body can do!!! exercise and all will follow, you will want to eat better foods.

the advent of early humanoids cooking (meat especially) had a lot to do with our evolution. vegetarianism is a great alternative and works for many, but it doesn't mean eating healthy, and i eat meat for so many reasons that i could never swear it off. the fact that going veg is frowned upon by doctors for babies and young children says a lot. sure there are so many nutritional substitutes for meat but... well anyway...

EXERCISE!!

Exercise isn't AS important as you're making it out to be but it's still good to engage in medium level aerobic activity and a whole lot of lifting heavy things.

Do the Michael phelps diet.

Oh man Martins. I'm almost shedding a tear here. Exercise is THE answer to everything. For one thing, if exercise isn't the key component to a diet, it's not a diet.

IMHO, it's the key component to a good life. No matter what eating regimen you do, if a large amount of exercise isn't involved, strenuous or casual, your body doesn't put that food to work. Eating the best foods in the world does not make you healthy if you breathe heavy by the time you make it to the top of the stairs.

The psychological benefits of exercise completely outweigh the psychological benefits of eating nuts & berries & butter all day. With the benefits of exercise, you won't want to eat shitty food. Granted I love bacon, cheese, and extremely heavy beer... but living an active lifestyle and being sensible about what I eat, making sure I fit in a lot of natural foods, I'd say I'm in good shape and I have been my whole life. I think that genetics and especially the eating habits one is raised with have a something to do with it. That's why different regimens work for different people.

But exercise should be the absolute first step to anybody's health. Faster metabolism, more fulfilling sleep, better waste processing, more direct bodily use of nutrients...on and on...the body is meant to be used and used well.

Exercise is just a conspiracy by Big Exercise.

Lol hey gauyz sorry haha I just guess Im right haha works for me works for you lol haha yea I'm an expert haha lol gauyz Jesus was in good shape and he didn't exercise lol jahaha

Well bacon is great for you and cheese, if it weren't for the lactose and casein, is also great for you!
I clearly don't disagree that exercise is something that needs to happen...because it does. I just think it isn't the end all be all. It is what rounds off a diet. Body composition is controlled mostly by diet and improved through exercise. It is by no means the first step, though. If you're eating a high carb diet and working out, you deplete the glycogen stores in your muscles and liver - your body then says holy fuck I need more fast burning carbs, not the more efficient slow burning fat, I need it now! Then you get cravings for carby food and your fat gets stored in the fat cells instead of being used. Nevermind the insulin shock that causes it all. If you eat a high fat low carb diet, THAT'S when exercise is the most beneficial.

False, the aliens.

And clearly I exercise. How else would I have gained ten pounds of muscle?

Masturbation isn't bad depending on how much work you put into it!

You haven't exercised until you can see your penis when you stand up.

Um, so then I guess I've exercised?

roids?

maybe but I don't take any extra protein or anything. All comes from meat, eggs, and some dairy.

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thats me!

I've been vegetarian since I was very little. My parents were very forward thinking and were very against CAFO meat.

I made curried chickpeas in pitas with peppers and onions the other day...I'd post a recipe but I just threw it together on the fly and there isn't much to it. Ratatouille is also really easy to make. Some of the veggie burger recipes on this site are worthwhile:

http://www.leftoverqueen.com/2008/08/18/th...e-homemade-veggie-burger-experiment

i could go for a black bean burger right now.

i like my vegitarians medium rare

Just bookmarked this. Totally this time of year:
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Easy-Vegetarian-Corn-Chowder/Detail.aspx

^+potatoes. That shit needs potatoes.

Also awesome:
http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/category/583/vegetarian

eat a bag of dicks.

THE BUTTERTONS.

FUCK YOU THIS IS AMERICA YOU PINKO BITCH. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THERE IS THE FUCKING DOOR

bryant terry's cookbook
http://rs747.rapidshare.com/files/26014180...can-American_Cuisine_0738212288.pdf
30 min vegan cookbook
http://ebook30.com/cooking-diets/cooking-d...y-recipes-for-everyday-cooking.html

petas college cookbook
http://ebook30.com/personality/healthcare-...es-to-keep-you-vegan-at-school.html

a website/blog i really like is:
http://www.101cookbooks.com/
i've made a few recipes for aaron thanks to this site..some faves are:
Zucchini Ricotta Cheesecake
Sweet Potato Pot Pies
Baked Pasta Casserole
Plump Pea Dumplings

seriously..a lot of interesting and yummy recipes..

Vegetarians = Dumb people who follow fads/trends. America is the only country full of veggie idiots because our media is the most powerful in the world. "Ya, I'm so manly, but please hold the meat." Gimme a break...this is why every other country laughs at us. Imagine what would have happened to the human race without meat. EXTINCT. Now get off of your media friendly hobby horses and start being men again!

I go by taste, nothing else. If it's a fried human and tastes good, so be it.

I'll have what he's having.

but have you ever tried a vegetarian meal?
or are you one of those people who won't because it doesn't sound good to you without a piece of steak, whatever the case is i respect your opinion.

I've been vegetarian for 15 years, vegan for 13. It's not for a trend. I'm respectful of others and I don't shove my morals down people's throats.

But anyway, I eat well and I feel very healthy.

Dammit, you guys are supposed to get all butthurt and start bitching at me. No fun.

Ya, I could care less what you eat, really. I could never do it though...I love meat toooooo much.

I'm a veggie cause hayden panettiere is.

the thread is for posting recipes

ten pounds of horomone added beef plus 50 caged chickens with no beaks, fry all of this in the skull of a mastodon using bald eagle fat as a greaser for the pan.

but seriously, I have noticed as I have had to buy my own food, meat has disappeared from my diet...mostly. maybe three times a week now at most, whereas when I lived at home it was every night and maybe for lunch too.

I made amazing spinach and artichoke dip from my Moosewood book. I can type up the recipe if anyone wants. It uses butter beans instead of cheese and it's so fucking delicious you'll punch a bitch in the mouth.

http://www.amazon.com/How-All-Vegan-Irresi...UTF8&s=books&qid=1261422085&sr=8-20
I have this cookbook and it's great. The recipes are for the most part easy and very tasty. Also, they have short ingredient lists, so you don't have to buy a million things to make one dish.