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returntothepit >> discuss >> Free State Project NH? by troll on Sep 30,2009 10:48am
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toggletoggle post by troll at Sep 30,2009 10:48am edited Sep 30,2009 11:01am
I find this kinda interesting. Been reading and hearing about these people more and more lately. Seems to be gaining some speed. Recently seen an alleged "free stater" with a pretty big sidearm (44 revolver?) entering a DMV substation. They proceeded to complain about the vehicle registration process and made a comment about being "better off dealing with the mafia."
Made a few people uneasy.
Made me curious.

http://www.freestateproject.org











toggletoggle post by troll at Sep 30,2009 11:00am



toggletoggle post by troll at Sep 30,2009 11:05am



toggletoggle post by troll at Sep 30,2009 11:22am
allegedly started by a few free staters.






bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 11:26am
they were trying to get 1000's of people to move and move into politics as movers and shakers. I like the idea. NH is small enough for that few of people to make an effect.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 11:31am
in the open carry video, that dude waving a hand in front of the cop should have been hand cuffed and tasered.



toggletoggle post by troll at Sep 30,2009 11:43am
word



toggletoggle post by troll at Sep 30,2009 11:48am
I go to work before those 4:20 gatherings. Even though I don't use the Mary Jane, I'd go in support. I always felt the prohibition of grass was a joke.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 11:51am
ditto.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Sep 30,2009 12:13pm
I'd love to add my 2 cents here. The gentleman in the open carry situation abided the laws of this country and state 100%. God Bless him. It is our right to "bear arms" in this country and a police state that prohibited this would truly suck.

As far as the Free State Project goes, I have a dear friend involved in it, and agree with it 100%. Long live NH...keep Mass. politics in Mass.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 12:21pm
hoser, isn't that like saying "I support bike riding.. so what I tossed my bike in a dumpster and pissed/shit all over it! I'm never ever riding a bike again, but I still support bike riding."



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 12:23pm
what I don't support is why do people that do things like the people in these videos always have to look like either milton from office space or some other sort of un-date-able lump of humanity?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 12:24pm
I'm pretty sure mike judge has a copyright on just about all the people in those first 2 videos.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Sep 30,2009 12:27pm
Well, I have my beliefs man. Not all gun owners look like that. I could care less about how they look. I care more about their support for our Constitution.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Sep 30,2009 12:28pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
hoser, isn't that like saying "I support bike riding.. so what I tossed my bike in a dumpster and pissed/shit all over it! I'm never ever riding a bike again, but I still support bike riding."


Not following you here...



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Sep 30,2009 12:32pm
Hoser, allow me to respectfully ask - are you a Christian man? I'm trying to figure out why you say some of the things you do.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 30,2009 12:37pm
Hoser just likes any excuse to hate on MA.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Sep 30,2009 12:38pm
I'm moving to NH just to piss Hoser off.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 30,2009 12:39pm
reimroc said[orig][quote]
I'm moving to NH just to piss Hoser off.


I have to shoot a wedding there in 2 weeks. I'm going to make sure Jon drives like an erratic asshole and cuts off everyone with a NH plate in honor of Hoser.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Sep 30,2009 5:00pm
troll said[orig][quote]
I always felt the prohibition of grass was a joke.


Let's legalize it in one state, and see what the results are over the next 50 years.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Sep 30,2009 7:42pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
troll said[orig][quote]
I always felt the prohibition of grass was a joke.


Let's legalize it in one state, and see what the results are over the next 50 years.


That's the point of having state government, it's a testing ground for new ideas.

Kinda like how mass first started public education.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 8:07pm
reimroc said[orig][quote]
I'm moving to NH just to piss Hoser off.
why? hoser moved out of NH and into a place that is more liberal with higher taxes. he is a state traitor.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 30,2009 8:10pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Well, I have my beliefs man. Not all gun owners look like that. I could care less about how they look. I care more about their support for our Constitution.
um.. what? i dont see him kissing a dude or getting gay married or getting free health care AT ALL. I work in mass and have never read the constitution, but I'm assuming from what I know about it from NPR that it's all about all that stuff. not even a single 8-month abortion where they eat the fetus afterwards. doesnt sound at all like MY idea of a constitution.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Oct 1,2009 3:18am
It's a great idea for all the freestaters to gather in one place, makes rounding them up for the FEMA DEATHCAMPS much easier.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 8:05am
arktouros said[orig][quote]
Hoser, allow me to respectfully ask - are you a Christian man? I'm trying to figure out why you say some of the things you do.


I'm Catholic by birth, but I am not at all active in the church. I consider myself an agnostic, but I don't hate religion at all. It's done a lot of bad, and a lot of good at the same time. My views certainly aren't derived from religion at all.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 8:12am
pam said[orig][quote]
Hoser just likes any excuse to hate on MA.


Pam, I really do hate Mass. for good reason. The people are generally rude, self-righteous assholes who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. The come knocking on OUR doors up here, handing us pamphlets that read, "Vote Obama" and "Vote Democrat." Why the fuck are they trying to leech their politics into our state?

They come up here and enjoy our great wilderness, then buy up property and get voted into town councils where they subsequently vote yes to putting a Starbucks on every street corner, and a shopping centers every 5 miles so that it's more convenient for them to shop. Basically, they come here to get away from the hustle and bustle of their city lives, then end up turning our wilderness into cities for their convenience. They also vote for gun control measures and other fascist laws once they become residents here, tipping the traditions that we have had for centuries into the shit pot. And they just fucking keep coming, and coming....



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 8:15am
That, my dear...is why I fucking HATE MA, CT, RI, NY and anywhere else down to NJ.

I then rather enjoy anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon, except for Florida. I just hate the heat.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 10:19am
yeah, that too.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2009 10:21am
is Hoser fighting with himself?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2009 10:21am
could you tell me more about this plan to have more starbucks? I need to gain 15lbs of creamy fatty goodness. thanks.



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 10:35am
Reverend, or anyone else who hasn't read the Constitution - I'd suggest that you do before it's literally shredded right before our eyes (almost there...)

The founding fathers were more about liberty and a government that "fears" the people rather than the other way around. People shouldn't fear their government. Freedom is something of which this country was founded on, yet both state and federal government are taking away our freedoms little by little.
Granted, we live in a society today that's completely different than say - 1770; but the fact of the matter is that the very document and law of this country is overlooked on a daily basis. It's not because of LIBERALS.. it's not because of CONSERVATIVES - it's because we're losing sight of freedom for all, and a government that respects its citizens.
Then again, this country is full of all different types of people - is a compltely free nation possible? Absolutely not. The only possible way that we can be truly free is if everybody was united for a common cause, both government and people. The bottom line is the people should have more power than the government.

... and that's the problem today. and it has been since 1913. The Federal Reserve system is mostly a private bank, and has been producing money at their own will, inflating our currency (hidden tax), and is now giving TRILLIONS of dollars to foreign banks. Our country has been hijacked by elite bankers and corporate heads.

This is not a free country - we're slaves to the banks. It's obvious..

Here's some good quotes from Thomas Jefferson:


A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.

Every generation needs a new revolution.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.




toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 10:47am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
could you tell me more about this plan to have more starbucks? I need to gain 15lbs of creamy fatty goodness. thanks.


Rev, you know damned well that I'm right. I know that you're arguing with me just to argue, as I do at times. However, I am stating a sad truth that you can bear witness to all over the lakes region, Conway, and south western Maine.



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 10:48am
I didn't even read this thread or watch those videos before ranting.
What is this thread about? hahaha



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 10:48am
Christ, look at what happened to Portsmouth. It used to be a great town full of fishermen and local kids. Now try to find one person that lives there between the ages of 21 and 40 that are originally from there. They have priced us right out of our own town.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 11:40am
Yeah, that too!



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Oct 1,2009 12:08pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
un-date-able lump of humanity?
i smell a song title



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Oct 1,2009 12:17pm
NH voted democrat last election sweetheart, just because you aren't one, doesn't mean "your" state isn't.

And those weren't "MA politics", they were NATIONAL politics.

YOU do not represent every person in NH and thinking so is the definition of self-righteous and thinking of no one but yourself.

Just sayin!



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 12:27pm
Didn't mean to rile you up...but I'm telling you the 100% truth. I'm just telling you why I hate MA so much. If you lived here your whole life, you'd share my sentiments, I GUARANTEE IT.

Where's George Zimmerman when you need him?



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Oct 1,2009 12:29pm
hahah, I'm not riled up...just pointing out the flaws in your argument. <3



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 1,2009 12:30pm
Didn't read most of this thread but open carry is badass.



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 1:22pm
Hoser, you live in Maine now, right?



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Oct 1,2009 8:12pm
Yes sir...



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Oct 1,2009 9:37pm
pam%20nli said[orig][quote]
hahah, I'm not riled up...just pointing out the flaws in your argument. <3


NH did not vote democrat, the politicians here did. I can honestly say even of people my age that mos of use up here support neither party. The old people are all republicans, and most of the people my age group are independent.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2009 9:40pm
aril said[orig][quote]
Reverend, or anyone else who hasn't read the Constitution - blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah - blah blah blah blah blah

you sound like carina.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2009 9:42pm
pam said[orig][quote]
reimroc said[orig][quote]
I'm moving to NH just to piss Hoser off.


I have to shoot a wedding there in 2 weeks. I'm going to make sure Jon drives like an erratic asshole and cuts off everyone with a NH plate in honor of Hoser.
pam is such a masshole that she doesn't even have a license to die er.. drive.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Oct 1,2009 9:46pm
Hahaha I love that about people in Mass, most of my friends down there dont have licenses...or cars....or jobs.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2009 9:55pm
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
pam%20nli said[orig][quote]
hahah, I'm not riled up...just pointing out the flaws in your argument. <3


NH did not vote democrat, the politicians here did. I can honestly say even of people my age that mos of use up here support neither party. The old people are all republicans, and most of the people my age group are independent.
saying that is incorrect. There is both and old world "democrat" and old world "republican" in NH/NE. A lot of farmers that grew up in the 1920's and 1930's (and before, but most of those are dead now) vote democratic because they were raised to always help your neighbor. Once they move to the city, they tend republican.. especially after seeing a black person or getting mugged.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 1,2009 9:57pm
the only constitution I need is the internet constitution
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toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Oct 1,2009 10:10pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
pam%20nli said[orig][quote]
hahah, I'm not riled up...just pointing out the flaws in your argument. <3


NH did not vote democrat, the politicians here did. I can honestly say even of people my age that mos of use up here support neither party. The old people are all republicans, and most of the people my age group are independent.
saying that is incorrect. There is both and old world "democrat" and old world "republican" in NH/NE. A lot of farmers that grew up in the 1920's and 1930's (and before, but most of those are dead now) vote democratic because they were raised to always help your neighbor. Once they move to the city, they tend republican.. especially after seeing a black person or getting mugged.



by old democrat i think you mean a unionist/populist

In fact there was a time in the past when republicans were for the people and the democrats hated black people and minorities.

those are what you see today as borderline "terrorist" gun loving constitutionalists and the opposite spectrum as lite socialists/yupsters



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