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returntothepit >> discuss >> Patriots QB Matt cassell's father dies, uncertain if he will return by SkinSandwich on Dec 11,2008 8:40am
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toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 8:40am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...template=without-video&confirm=true


Well, any slim chance the pats had of a wild card berth will be out the window with no doubt if Cassell does not come back. They are on the road against the Raiders, then home against the potent Cardinals, and then at the Bills who play them tough 9 times out of 10. Right now I MAYBE see them squeaking by the Raiders, but losing to the Cards and Buffalo. Remember the Raiders upset the Broncos IN Denver, so do not take them lightly, regardless if Denver is not that good.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 11,2008 8:43am
I highly doubt he'll be out the rest of the regular season. If he's missing any game, it'd be the Oakland game and that's it. They can get by Oakland with O'Connell at QB. Oakland has given up.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 8:58am
Not going out on to much of a limb here, but the Patriots will not make the playoffs this year. their record against AFC east opponents is split, but thier record versus the rest of the AFC is not as good as most other AFC teams. They will have to win the remainder of all three games and get help. I see a NY Giants vs Titans or Steelers Super Bowl.



toggletoggle post by corpus_NLI at Dec 11,2008 9:08am
lol. he'll play..dont be riddic.

think about whats at stake for the pats--
think about whats at stake for his contract next year.

simple math..



toggletoggle post by corpus_NLI at Dec 11,2008 9:09am
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
They can get by Oakland with O'Connell at QB.


ROFL.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 9:35am
Simple Meth



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 11,2008 9:45am
corpus_NLI said[orig][quote]
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
They can get by Oakland with O'Connell at QB.


ROFL.

???

Oakland were terrible when they hadn't given up yet, now they've given up for the season (anyone who watched their game against the Chargers last Thursday will agree). The only team that's an easier win is Detroit right now.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Dec 11,2008 9:56am
corpus_NLI said[orig][quote]
lol. he'll play..dont be riddic.

think about whats at stake for the pats--
think about whats at stake for his contract next year.

simple math..


obviously.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 11,2008 10:05am
am i the only one who feels bad for the guy over losing his father? i hope he plays sunday and i think he will, but if he skips the game to mourn, i'm fine with that.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Dec 11,2008 10:10am
Well i don't feel bad, cause i don't know him. If he were my bud, then i'd mourn.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 11,2008 10:10am edited Dec 11,2008 10:11am
Hey dude, it's not metal to care about something like that.

Gotta be as metal as you can be here.



toggletoggle post by rbss at Dec 11,2008 10:13am
dreadkill said[orig][quote]
am i the only one who feels bad for the guy over losing his father? i hope he plays sunday and i think he will, but if he skips the game to mourn, i'm fine with that.


I definitely feel bad for him, but when you are a professional athlete you need to accept the pressure and expectations of that role. Maybe if he was Joe Nobody he could take some time off work, but many many people count on him to perform every week and he needs to get out there and do his job. Show the world that his Dad raised someone not afraid to be a man and get shit done.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 10:14am
Mourn



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 11,2008 10:14am
but yeah, the dude will totally not miss more than a game



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 11,2008 10:29am
i doubt he'll miss the game.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 11,2008 10:32am
Don't forget that coach Bill himself had to miss a game when his father died 3 years ago.
Doc River's father also died during the season and he had to miss a game or two when that happened.
Generally, most people miss a game when something like that happens. But, he has a 4?(not sure when his dad died) day wait until the game so I'm not sure. He'd be out of practice, and his mental state will not be top-notch.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 11,2008 10:34am
rbss said[orig][quote]
dreadkill said[orig][quote]
am i the only one who feels bad for the guy over losing his father? i hope he plays sunday and i think he will, but if he skips the game to mourn, i'm fine with that.


I definitely feel bad for him, but when you are a professional athlete you need to accept the pressure and expectations of that role. Maybe if he was Joe Nobody he could take some time off work, but many many people count on him to perform every week and he needs to get out there and do his job. Show the world that his Dad raised someone not afraid to be a man and get shit done.


i agree 100%.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 10:35am
Anyone else pissed a bit that Tom "glamboy" Brady is not at any of the Pats games? I find this fucked up. I guess he is to busy being the elitist dickhead he has become doing glamour shots in between physical therapy.



Brokeback Brady, where art thou?



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 10:38am
Seriously..




toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 11,2008 10:39am
my dad said the same thing about brady. he thinks brady should be on the sidelines, helping cassel. i wouldn't go that far, considering if a play went out of bounds near the pats' bench and a couple big bodies barreled into brady, it could re-injure the knee and set his recovery back, but i would like to see brady in the owner's box with kraft, showing team support.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 10:41am edited Dec 11,2008 10:43am
Exactly what I mean Dreadkill. he thinks he is entitled to do whatever he pleases. Nobody is bigger than the team. he needs to be on the sidelines with cassell. Fucking A, Bledsoe stood by Brady on the sideline when Bledsoe got injured, setting up Brady's successful career.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 11,2008 10:44am
brady's very competitive and it might be heartbreaking for him to be at the game when he can't play, but it would be nice to see him put his own personal feelings (if that's how he feels) aside and be there for the team. he's a leader and his teammates look to him for that.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 11,2008 10:49am
I actually thought about the the other week.. about how we dont' see him at the games.
However, I remember reading that he shows up at practices to pep-talks the team. I'm not sure what to think about it. If he comes back next year and owns, then I won't complain.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 11,2008 10:52am
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
Exactly what I mean Dreadkill. he thinks he is entitled to do whatever he pleases. Nobody is bigger than the team. he needs to be on the sidelines with cassell. Fucking A, Bledsoe stood by Brady on the sideline when Bledsoe got injured, setting up Brady's successful career.
when i told my dad it would be a bad idea for brady to risk his recovery by being on the sideline with cassel, he mentioned bledsoe being out there with brady too. brady should get a headset and talk to cassel from the kraft box if he doesn't want to risk his body on the sideline.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 11,2008 10:53am
he is a stuck up bitch anyways. my sister sat him at the Beacon Hill Bistro and she said that he was a stuck up cock to her. she said his girlfriend Gazelle or whatever her name is was really nice, but he was a fucking dick acting like he could simply because he is Tom Brady. ass.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 11,2008 10:53am
It is absolutely ridiculous to have a player who is rehabbing a blown out knee on the sidelines. Would you want to risk this happening to one of the best QBs of all time with an already blown out knee?:

bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 11,2008 10:55am
Plus, just because you don't see him on the sidelines doesn't mean he's not helping Cassel and the rest of the team. There is a whole week of practice after all that none of us see, and Cassel has said in multiple interviews that Brady has helped him tremendously this season.

The difference between Bledsoe and Brady is Bledsoe wasn't on IR. No team has their players on IR on the sidelines during games.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 11,2008 11:13am
if it makes anyone feel better, Tom Brady has a perscription for Propecia. He has male-pattern baldness. my friend worked at his pharmacy a few years ago.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 11,2008 11:15am
brady has a bald spot



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 11,2008 11:16am
I'm going to start calling him Bald Spot Brady



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Dec 11,2008 11:42am
Where to start.

1. I haven't heard any indication that Cassel won't be playing this game. For now I'd still assume that he's playing.

2. The Raiders are a drop dead fucking mess. Tom Cable has NO idea how to coach a football team. They've had 3 different guys calling offensive plays this season, and none of them can get the ball moving. Justin Fargas can move the ball well up the middle, and that's usually the kind of back that the Patriots D stuggles against, but that's only when his line blocks for him, which hasn't been happening too often these past few weeks. They keep saying that they're going to get McFadden more involved, but they honestly have no idea how to do it.

3. Beating the Denver Broncos isn't really the accomplishment that their record makes it out to be. Jay Cutler has more pressure on him than almost anyone in the NFL simply because if their offense can't carry a game for them, it's over. They were within 1 score or less of losing to the Browns, and the Chiefs on 2 separate occasions this season.

4. The Raiders win over the Broncos was the first time they cracked the 30 point barrier since December 2nd of 2007... against the Broncos. They have the absolute worst 3rd down percentage in the league at 25%. The Raiders, a professional football team, somehow find a way to blow 75% of their third down attempts. Mindblowing. And given their style of play they won't be looking at too many third and shorts against the Pats.

5. I'd rather have Cassel starting over O'Connell for obvious reasons, but I still don't hate our chances with O'Connell.

6. A lot of NFL players go bald from their helmets. Just ask Matt Hasselbeck.

7. Tom Brady can do whatever he wants. If he was a dick to your sister than she deserved it haha.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 12:06pm
dreadkill said[orig][quote]
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
Exactly what I mean Dreadkill. he thinks he is entitled to do whatever he pleases. Nobody is bigger than the team. he needs to be on the sidelines with cassell. Fucking A, Bledsoe stood by Brady on the sideline when Bledsoe got injured, setting up Brady's successful career.
when i told my dad it would be a bad idea for brady to risk his recovery by being on the sideline with cassel, he mentioned bledsoe being out there with brady too. brady should get a headset and talk to cassel from the kraft box if he doesn't want to risk his body on the sideline.


Dreadkill, I am...your father.




toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 11,2008 12:44pm
hahahahahahaha



toggletoggle post by tylor at Dec 11,2008 2:48pm
its gonna be a manning bowl



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 11,2008 2:50pm
tylor said[orig][quote]
its gonna be a manning bowl


This would be the biggest gayity of all gay things that could, and would be gay.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Dec 11,2008 2:51pm
tylor said[orig][quote]
its gonna be a manning bowl

If that happens, I would lose all faith in football, maybe all of humanity.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Dec 11,2008 2:59pm
The Onion made me incredibly happy today with this one:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/area_child_cant_bring_self



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