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returntothepit >> discuss >> If you hate people... by miscegenator on Jan 10,2007 12:16am
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toggletoggle post by miscegenator at Jan 10,2007 12:16am
Futurist misanthropy is the notion that modern humans are delusional and therefore worthy of misanthropy, but that we can apply that dislike of humanity toward something positive: making the next stage in human evolution. Unlike the "progress" that both governments and dissident groups endorse, this involves making better quality humans and has nothing to do with the education, propaganda and financial rewards governments these days favor.

Our diagnosis is that misanthropy is running at an all-time high because the quality of humans is low and our society is delusional, which would make anyone sensible hate it. We're inundated with people low in actual intelligence but "smart" in doing very specialized tasks, and they are incapable of making the type of decisions we need. From their instinct to protect each other we have gotten layers of moral manacles like humanism, materialism, philanthropy, altruism, egalitarianism, and tolerance.

We don't need any of these things. What we need are the few good quality people to be in charge and the rest to be either oppressed or eradicated. The essence of futurist misanthropy is a slaying of sacred cows, a putting to rest of pleasant illusions, and a disruption of taboos so that the kind of common sense a high-quality person would have predominates. We're tired of being ruled by morons, sheep and parrots.

http://www.anus.com/etc/misanthrope/



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Jan 10,2007 12:20am



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jan 10,2007 12:48am
tis true



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 10,2007 1:46am
I am a misanthrope but I would never join up with a fucking clown like Inforterror











toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 10,2007 1:47am



toggletoggle post by aeser   at Jan 10,2007 10:21am
sounds more like naziism to me.

"Futurist misanthropy is the notion that modern humans are delusional and therefore worthy of misanthropy, but that we can apply that dislike of humanity toward something positive: making the next stage in human evolution. Unlike the "progress" that both governments and dissident groups endorse, this involves making better quality humans"

> this i would totally be in favor of and in agreement with

"and has nothing to do with the education, propaganda and financial rewards governments these days favor."

> education is a joke in this society, but to say one does not NEED education is retarded. of course "propaganda" is not appealing, but then what is this very article if not propaganda? as far as financial rewards i must be missing something.

"Our diagnosis is that misanthropy is running at an all-time high because the quality of humans is low and our society is delusional, which would make anyone sensible hate it."

> this i would totally agree with

"We're inundated with people low in actual intelligence but "smart" in doing very specialized tasks,"

> uh, i'm not so sure most people are even moderately smart at doing very specialized tasks. most people are pretty much completely worthless in every way.

"and they are incapable of making the type of decisions we need."

> yea, this doesn't sound at all like propaganda. not one bit.

"From their instinct to protect each other we have gotten layers of moral manacles like humanism, materialism, philanthropy, altruism, egalitarianism, and tolerance."

> hahahaha i wish i lived in the dreamworld this guy is from where people are all into helping eachother and arn't in actuality just greedy fucks who only care about themselves. i agree with the materialism part but that is IT. the only time people bother to help out their fellow man is when it benefits them in some way, usually materially. "philanthropy" is a synonym for "tax break", and as far as tolerance the only place i see that being a problem is in peoples complacency for the agenda of the elites/right wing, whereby they totally don't mind being exploited for someone elses spoils.

"We don't need any of these things. "

> depends on who you are. yes if you're some suburban metalhead in the northeast with a decent job who can afford his bills and rent and some money to have fun with you don't have much of a need for the kindness of your fellow man. if you're say in darfur and likely to be killed because of some fucked up war erupting around you that you can't do anything about, you might have a different perspective on not "needing humanism".

"What we need are the few good quality people to be in charge and the rest to be either oppressed or eradicated. The essence of futurist misanthropy is a slaying of sacred cows, a putting to rest of pleasant illusions, and a disruption of taboos so that the kind of common sense a high-quality person would have predominates. We're tired of being ruled by morons, sheep and parrots."

the problem isn't that our leaders are stupid, they're not, the problem is the population they govern is stupid, and they like it this way and intend to continue this as long as humanly possible as it serves their aims. it's the exact same thing all throughout history, ruling elite class opresses and exploits lower class masses for their own gains, when in reality this is just a stupid construct of society, and even the very idea of society the way it is implimented is a human idea that can be thought out of existance as quickly as it was thought up. the second the shit hits the fan, what actual worth is a piece of paper with a number on it and the picture of some dead leader? when you need food and shelter and or a weapon? we base our society on complete bullshit, "the market", and expect this horribly flawed "market" to solve everything, completely ignoring it doesn't even do a very good job of performing it's sole intended function as it is only based on perceptions of worth, and not actual worth, and is just, like everything else, designed by and for the elites to take advantage of the masses. but hey if we all get drunk and watch football on our hdtv's on the weekends and drive our SUV's to the office on time monday morning to make said percieved value for the elites we get some semblence of "peace" and people are taught this is "freedom", and the sad thing is it's probably the closest thing we'll ever have to "freedom" (at the expence of many other peoples "freedom"). but hey fuck it. rah rah master race.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 10,2007 10:42am
misanthropy is all personal. if you hate people, you hate people.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Jan 10,2007 11:12am
If you hate the human race so much, here's a solution: kill yourself.



toggletoggle post by Spaldino@werk at Jan 10,2007 11:35am
honestly, people dont really NEED college, or most of high school. i am proof of that, mentally atleast, since i dont have a piece of paper stating that i wasted money so i can get a job that TRAINS YOU for it anyway, i dont make a whole lot of money right now. with the rise of the internet and the amount of information available by default, college is just a place you go to spend 30k a year to fuck broads and get wasted in a different setting. hell... yesterday i was bored at work, so i looked up Plato and read a bunch of shit he wrote and other essays and whatnot based on Plato's philosophies and mindset. people PAY a lot to take classes based on that shit. hell... look up "human philosophy" in google and read away. Quantum Physics, Physics, geometry, algebra, history, psychology, and whatnot is all researchable ONLINE, for FREE (unless you count the 30 bucks a month it costs to have high speed intrawebs, LOL) and what's better, is that you can do all of this, in your own time, listening to whatever music you want, in 10 minute bursts to 3 hour stints. its just too easy now.

the internet is a great tool to anyone. but its just a shame that people primarily use it to get off and be conceited assholes. it renders most college courses obselete... if you disagree then you would have to be braindead because its so blatantly obvious.



toggletoggle post by aeser   at Jan 10,2007 3:59pm
Spaldino@werk said:
honestly, people dont really NEED college, or most of high school. i am proof of that, mentally atleast, since i dont have a piece of paper stating that i wasted money so i can get a job that TRAINS YOU for it anyway, i dont make a whole lot of money right now. with the rise of the internet and the amount of information available by default, college is just a place you go to spend 30k a year to fuck broads and get wasted in a different setting. hell... yesterday i was bored at work, so i looked up Plato and read a bunch of shit he wrote and other essays and whatnot based on Plato's philosophies and mindset. people PAY a lot to take classes based on that shit. hell... look up "human philosophy" in google and read away. Quantum Physics, Physics, geometry, algebra, history, psychology, and whatnot is all researchable ONLINE, for FREE (unless you count the 30 bucks a month it costs to have high speed intrawebs, LOL) and what's better, is that you can do all of this, in your own time, listening to whatever music you want, in 10 minute bursts to 3 hour stints. its just too easy now.

the internet is a great tool to anyone. but its just a shame that people primarily use it to get off and be conceited assholes. it renders most college courses obselete... if you disagree then you would have to be braindead because its so blatantly obvious.


the whole "you have to go to college or you'll have no future" mentality is stupid, college is good for a lot of things and you can learn a lot there, problem is most people don't. most people go into college right out of high school when they're 18 and don't have a clue about the world let alone what they want to do with their life let alone what they CAN actually possibly do with their lives and still make a living. which is why something like %95 of college grads end up in a job that has absolutely nothing to do with their degree. can a degree help you to get a job? shit yes. do you absolutely need one to get a job? of course not. some jobs require it and the higher up the foodchain of jobs you go they pretty much all require it, but shit, i'm a fucking high school dropout and i make $55k a year and have 10 years experience in IT and could get another job tomorrow if i had to. haven't updated my resume in 9 months but i still get at least 3-5 calls a week about jobs from people finding my shit on monster or dice. i think people should not be allowed into college until they're at least 25 years old, because at least at that point you've (hopefully) been out in the working world a bit and get exposed to what you can actually make a living off with a degree, so instead of going and getting an art degree or some shit like that like half the people i know (including myself as i was persuing an art degree at one point in my life and yes i was young and naive at the time) and then ending up in some fucking retail job i could have gotten without even knowing how to read, instead you can put that massive investment in a piece of paper to good use. there's also nothing wrong with just joining a union and say becoming an apprentice electrician or whatever. all you have to be is 18 years of age or older, and have passed at least high school algebra, and they PAY YOU to train, and give you health insurance, and pay you better than most jobs my graduate friends are working, and then when you become an actual liscenced electrician you start off making about $60k a year and it only goes up from there. you can make like $200k a year if you open your own business doing it. all with just a high school degree or GED. it sucks but in this society you should really just concentrate on what jobs are available/in demand out there/what pays well that you wouldn't mind doing so much, and get the degree that facilitates that, instead of just blindly going to college and studying whatever because college automatically equals "future". then coming out with like $120,000 in student loan debt and working some $7 an hour retail job.




toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 10,2007 4:59pm
Hey man, are you in Id? My old band did a show with you guys ages ago

@ MIT actually



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 10,2007 5:09pm
aeser said:


the problem isn't that our leaders are stupid, they're not, the problem is the population they govern is stupid, and they like it this way and intend to continue this as long as humanly possible as it serves their aims. it's the exact same thing all throughout history, ruling elite class opresses and exploits lower class masses for their own gains, when in reality this is just a stupid construct of society, and even the very idea of society the way it is implimented is a human idea that can be thought out of existance as quickly as it was thought up. the second the shit hits the fan, what actual worth is a piece of paper with a number on it and the picture of some dead leader? when you need food and shelter and or a weapon? we base our society on complete bullshit, "the market", and expect this horribly flawed "market" to solve everything, completely ignoring it doesn't even do a very good job of performing it's sole intended function as it is only based on perceptions of worth, and not actual worth, and is just, like everything else, designed by and for the elites to take advantage of the masses. but hey if we all get drunk and watch football on our hdtv's on the weekends and drive our SUV's to the office on time monday morning to make said percieved value for the elites we get some semblence of "peace" and people are taught this is "freedom", and the sad thing is it's probably the closest thing we'll ever have to "freedom" (at the expence of many other peoples "freedom"). but hey fuck it. rah rah master race.


Totally agree, and if you want to read a good book on the subject of classism check this out


This is the stuff that makes the big wigs nervous

Classism, something they do not teach in history classes




toggletoggle post by miscegenator at Jan 10,2007 11:57pm
aeser said:

> hahahaha i wish i lived in the dreamworld this guy is from where people are all into helping eachother and arn't in actuality just greedy fucks who only care about themselves. i agree with the materialism part but that is IT. the only time people bother to help out their fellow man is when it benefits them in some way, usually materially. "philanthropy" is a synonym for "tax break", and as far as tolerance the only place i see that being a problem is in peoples complacency for the agenda of the elites/right wing, whereby they totally don't mind being exploited for someone elses spoils.


I agree with this. But, not everyone is this fucked up, and some (women, mostly) are honestly fooled.





toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Jan 11,2007 1:32am
eat a bowl of fuk



toggletoggle post by aeser   at Jan 11,2007 9:22am
CNV said:
Hey man, are you in Id? My old band did a show with you guys ages ago

@ MIT actually


yep i'm in id, were you in shiver? i think that's about the only other band we played with at MIT (besides prophetic disclosure who we almost had a split with). that was a goddamn long time ago.




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