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returntothepit >> discuss >> AACS (encryption technology in BluRay & HDDVD) supposedly cracked by menstrual_sweatpants_disco on Dec 29,2006 11:04am
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toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Dec 29,2006 11:04am



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Dec 29,2006 11:17am
thats some evocative tribal music, muslix64



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Dec 29,2006 6:35pm
hah, I was watching it with the sound off at work. Nice choice of music. That's always the music that's running through my head when I'm at the command prompt.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 29,2006 6:39pm
msd, what do you use to burn dvd's on yer pc?
i have dvd shrink and easy dvd shrink
but am running into issues..it won't play the dvd bcz of the region
help?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Dec 29,2006 6:41pm
I don't know any workarounds for regions unless you get a regionless dvdrom drive or just change the region on your current one. I believe most dvdrom/dvd burner drives allow you to change the region 3 times.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 29,2006 6:45pm
the dvd shrink program is old and the easy dvd shrink well i ran out of movie to burn i only had the trial
booo



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 29,2006 6:53pm
ps: i just saw that you need the professional version of easy dvd shrink

bleh!!



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 8:04pm
All region dvd players are pretty cheap on Ebay. That's were I got mine. I love my new HDDVD player. You don't realize the difference until you go back and watch a regular dvd. The sound alone is so incredibly better in HD.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 29,2006 8:36pm
i don't need an all region one it's an issue copying something i guess i'm not allowed to, oh well.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 9:25pm
hddvd gay? blueray baby!



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 9:27pm
the_reverend said:
hddvd gay? blueray baby!


*Yawn*



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 9:27pm
I bet you loved Beta too.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 9:30pm
no, cause if I did, I would have gotten an HDDVD drive.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 9:33pm
They both use blue lasers and create the same picture quality. My disc's are just cheaper. Have fun buying $30 movies.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Dec 29,2006 9:33pm
I wish Aaron was dead.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 9:37pm
You heard it here folks . Rich Horror endorses HDDVD.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Dec 29,2006 9:41pm
That's a line from my new commercial for HDDVD.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 9:42pm
I'll try to enjoy 100GB per-disc... have fun with your 60GB losah discs.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 9:50pm
the_reverend said:
I'll try to enjoy 100GB per-disc... have fun with your 60GB losah discs.


Actually currently Blue Ray disc's are only shipping single layer 25 GB discs while HDDVD is using dual layer 15 Gb discs for a total of 30 Gb's. So currently HDDVD's offer more capacity. Don't believe sony's lame pipe dreams.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 10:26pm
maybe you and your HDDVDs can come over and sniff my balls? I promise to take pictures of it



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 10:32pm
the_reverend said:
maybe you and your HDDVDs can come over and sniff my balls? I promise to take pictures of it


Cool I can use them on my myspace. I'll buy your PS3 next year for 50 bucks when it's obsolete.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 10:41pm
I want that PSX that they talked about on the PS2 comercials a few years ago.
and not the lame one that they actually made:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(DVR)



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 10:48pm
It's pretty cool that it has a DVR. But since most cable companys offer a built in DVR with their boxes it's not that practicle. It would be cooler if it connected to your cable box to have a picture in picture so you could play and have T.V. on.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 10:51pm
you can do it, but you need more than one cable connection.. and digital box if you want a digital signal.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 10:54pm
Really? I'll have to look into it. I don't think that works for the 360. You can do that with PS3?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 29,2006 10:59pm
I'm not exactly sure what the difference between this and just having PIP on your TV with whatever on the main picture and TV on the other input.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 29,2006 11:02pm
I still haven't figured out all the features of my 360. pluss I have to get a new HDcable box since I moved and had to turn in my old one. So when I get that I'll see if I can connect them some how. Maybe through My Xbox live connection. I know I can play music off my I tunes and display pictures and video from my computer.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 30,2006 12:16am
Kevord said:
They both use blue lasers and create the same picture quality. My disc's are just cheaper. Have fun buying $30 movies.


i was in best buy the other day and i noticed that the newer dvd's blurays and hd dvd's were all $30




toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 30,2006 12:26am
xanonymousx said:
Kevord said:
They both use blue lasers and create the same picture quality. My disc's are just cheaper. Have fun buying $30 movies.


i was in best buy the other day and i noticed that the newer dvd's blurays and hd dvd's were all $30



On Amazon HDDVD's are $19.99. The prices will be dropping in retail stores soon too. HDDVD'S are cheaper to produce cause they use the same machines as standard Dvd's unlike Blueray.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Dec 30,2006 12:35am
so what's the difference between bluray and regular dvd? what are the pros and cons?



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 30,2006 12:43am
Withought getting into too much detail it's like this: HD DVD and Blu-ray both use blue lasers to read and write data; because blue has a shorter wavelength than the red used in DVD and CD lasers, information can be packed more densely on a disc and a single disc can hold more. Both HD DVD and Blu-ray drives are able to read current-generation DVDs. Sony claims their blue ray dics will one day be capable of holding more information than an HDDVD. But they have yet to prove this.



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Dec 30,2006 1:28am
HD DVD is better and cheaper then Bluray. Bluray has a higher capacity but you don't need that much room to watch a true HD Movie. Bluray has alot more noise in the picture then HD DVD. I own a HDDVD player and its amazing. I saw the new sony Bluray, its nice but the picture is not as good as HDDVD. Plus HDDVD has much better audio if you have a sweet system. I could go on but you get the point. HDDVD yo!



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Dec 30,2006 1:35am
ok, thanks for the info. Do you guys think that Sony will eventually prove their claim that bluray can be better?



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Dec 30,2006 1:39am
i don't think they will



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 30,2006 10:15am
I think that by the time HDDVD are 60GB and bluerays are 100GB, this point will be moot cause you will have drives that are
CD-r, CD-rw, DVD+r, DVD-r, DVD+rw, DVD-rw, DVD DL+r, DVD DL-r, DVD DL+rw, DVD DL-rw, blueray-r, blueray-rw, blueray dl, blueray dl-rw, HDDVD dl-r, HDVD dl-rw.

personally, I want the multi-colored lazer discs I saw demoing raw (uncompressed) 1GB/sec video back in 2001. the discs held 2TB and had something like 8-layers.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 30,2006 8:53pm
no, cause if I did, I would have gotten an HDDVD drive.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 30,2006 9:04pm
i got aaron a ps3 (60gb) and it came with a bluray disk (rickie bobbie i think it's called) and it also came with $10 a bunch of blu ray disks. not bad at all



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Dec 30,2006 11:23pm
HD DVD looks better!



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 30,2006 11:35pm
guess you haven't seen a true blu ray movie



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Dec 30,2006 11:49pm
Sure have i work with that stuff, bluray looks good but has alot more noise in the picture then hddvd. I have compared both.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Dec 31,2006 1:52am
HDDVD PWNS!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 31,2006 5:48pm
BTW, I looked at blank discs today.
BD-R were $25 for 25GB
HDDVD-R were $18 for 17GB
blue-ray wins for data.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:37pm



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 8,2007 7:40pm
w00t



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:50pm
and I declare that I won the thumb war.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 8,2007 7:54pm
WOW, These articles come out all the time on both sides.
http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/cymfony/26320/



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 8,2007 7:55pm
Your statement came from the Blue Ray association. Of course they're gonna say they're the best.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:57pm
that's funny. thought the BD talks about actual products to market and the HDDVD talks about that special "feeling".

like I said, in a couple years BD and HD will be like saying DVD-R and DVD+R. this is not a beta senario cause the discs look exactly the friggin same.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 8,2007 8:02pm
Oh, I know. At some point soon there will be a player that plays both formats and that will be the end of it. But it's still a fun debate.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:09pm
that time is here, geez... LG announced it like forever ago



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:12pm



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 8,2007 8:12pm
Aaron is enough of a condescending dickhead to work for customer support.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 8,2007 8:13pm
I know alot of companies are in the process of making them. But having to pay licensing fees to both Blue Ray and HD DVD pluss the cost of manufacturing currently makes it unconsumer friendly.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:35pm
LG's is $1199 and it out like now.

I would work in customer support, but I don't speak indian.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 9,2007 9:01am
I'm looking forward to the bump in sound quality more than video on BD/HD-DVD discs.

I love it when I rent a DVD and then notice that it has DTS surround on it. It sounds so much fucking better.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 19,2007 8:51am
there are 200GB BD-Rs in the works.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 22,2007 9:24am



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 22,2007 9:33am
Awesome.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2007 1:38pm



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Feb 1,2007 2:06pm



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Feb 1,2007 2:09pm
MattKings said:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/talladeganights.html -video quality not so good

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/batmanbegins.html -video quality very good

HDDVD baby!


I won't say anything and let Rev tear you apart. He does it so much better.



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Feb 1,2007 2:15pm
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
MattKings said:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/talladeganights.html -video quality not so good

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/batmanbegins.html -video quality very good

HDDVD baby!


I won't say anything and let Rev tear you apart. He does it so much better.


alright guy how about you tell me how bluray is better for HD movies? If anything they are equal now but at the begining bluray had some real shady looking movies. Now what?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 14,2007 12:28pm



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Feb 14,2007 1:05pm
Rev you see the departed yet on bluray? Its awesome.



toggletoggle post by sndnoodz at Feb 14,2007 1:31pm
blugay. I have an apple II for sale..dos mode and everything...50 bucks. Comes with Oregon trail 2. No joke



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 26,2007 12:06pm
Blu-ray surpasses HD DVD in disc sales for the first time
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/23/blu-ray...d-in-disc-sales-for-the-first-time/



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Feb 26,2007 12:50pm
read this, explains how even though bluray has out sold hd dvd in disc sales, its still a loss for bluray. http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=38522

Also i gotta throw this in. http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/kissofthedragon.html weakkk!!



toggletoggle post by MattKings at Feb 26,2007 5:16pm
just got a ps3, i'm rollin in HD now.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2007 12:13pm



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 1,2007 3:08pm
What BluRay drive do you have, Rev?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 2,2007 9:05am
I DEMAND ANSWERS!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 19,2007 9:08am
LG dual burner is under $300 now.
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=26553



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Oct 19,2007 9:32am
Holy fuck. That is great. Now..things I need.... a monitor that does HDCP and for blockbuster to start renting out bluray titles.

And why the fuck is Transformers only out on DVD and HDDVD?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 22,2008 10:37pm
PS: HD DVD loses?!? that's unpossible. someone put in the picture of the pear.



toggletoggle post by Fuck Logging In at Jan 22,2008 10:40pm
holy fuck! Heath Ledger is dead!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 7,2008 11:47am



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Feb 7,2008 12:46pm
Ok this this whole blu-ray/ hd debate to me is dead. I see no difference in either. I have both and pretty much the most insane home theater set up. I'd invite anyone over to try and prove me wrong, but on my set up, with the receiver I have, the insane Cambridge Soundworks speakers (all 7 of them, 11 if you count the 4 subs separately) the 72inch HD and the highest end cables money can buy there IS NO difference. Both look fucking badass and sound unreal.
It all really boils down to which movie studio aligns themselves with whatever side is who is going to win. Sony owns a ton of studios hence the Spiderman movies will only be released on Blu-ray and Warner as of now is aligned with HD, hence Batman Begins on HD.

By the way, Beta lost the war with VHS because they refused to allow porn studios to use their format. Same thing Sony is doing with Blu-ray. You can't deny a multi-billion dollar business like that and not feel the loss.



toggletoggle post by Mattkings at Feb 7,2008 1:16pm
GodlessRob said[orig][quote]
Ok this this whole blu-ray/ hd debate to me is dead. I see no difference in either. I have both and pretty much the most insane home theater set up. I'd invite anyone over to try and prove me wrong, but on my set up, with the receiver I have, the insane Cambridge Soundworks speakers (all 7 of them, 11 if you count the 4 subs separately) the 72inch HD and the highest end cables money can buy there IS NO difference. Both look fucking badass and sound unreal.
It all really boils down to which movie studio aligns themselves with whatever side is who is going to win. Sony owns a ton of studios hence the Spiderman movies will only be released on Blu-ray and Warner as of now is aligned with HD, hence Batman Begins on HD.

By the way, Beta lost the war with VHS because they refused to allow porn studios to use their format. Same thing Sony is doing with Blu-ray. You can't deny a multi-billion dollar business like that and not feel the loss.


I have a simliar set up and agree but Warner just went bluray exclusive. Blurays gonna end up winning.



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Feb 7,2008 1:20pm
Warner just went BD? well I guess that means no high def porn now! I didn't need to see herpes in high def anyway.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 7,2008 2:00pm
BD's got like a 90% share now.



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