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returntothepit >> discuss >> I need some help real quick by nickyhelliot on Jul 5,2006 1:17pm
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toggletoggle post by nickyhelliot  at Jul 5,2006 1:17pm
So I'm the lead vocalist for this band and I want to do lots of brutal metal stuff but they're all into metal core. They love Jfac and Animosity and Darkest Hour. Any advice on what I should have them veer away from metalcore stuff and more into metal? I need some thing that still has the emotion and power that they would love but no break downs for the stuff I love.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 5,2006 1:22pm
differences become more and more apparent as the band progresses.

In my experiences, it's not worth trying to 'convert' people.


However, there are bands that can be used as a 'bridge' that sound metalcoreish and metal at the same time. Depends on the metal though.

If I were trying to get metalcorish kids into deathmetal, I'd make them listen to glass casket. Also, In Dire Need seems to be universal among metal, everyone loves IDN.

If I were trying to get someone into metal, those are two bands I would definately make them listen to.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jul 5,2006 1:26pm
Use reverse psychology:
Wear Castro hats.
Wear bullet belts.
Get an Unearth tattoo.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 5,2006 1:32pm
powerkok said:
Use reverse psychology:
Wear Castro hats.
Wear bullet belts.
Get (at least) one Unearth tattoo.





toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Jul 5,2006 1:37pm
quit the band.



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Jul 5,2006 1:56pm
well, they listen to FJAC and animosity, theyre halfway there to liking death metal. make them listen to some more death metal thats more unrelenting, but still has the brutality/techy stuff they like.

decrepit birth
severed savior
malignancy



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Jul 5,2006 2:03pm
niccolai said:
However, there are bands that can be used as a 'bridge' that sound metalcoreish and metal at the same time. Depends on the metal though.


I find Seed to be of this nature. they're not a metalcore band, but they have some riffs that have that 'moshcore' feel to them. they're one of the few bands that I feel bridges the taboo gap between real metal and metalcore well.

***NOTE***
(specifically to Kyle[a.k.a. Seedbassist])
I'm not calling Seed metalcore, just relating the similarities with the feel of some of your songs. Seed's newer material is much more tech-metal then pseudo-core influenced metal.

But as I was saying, they bridge the gap nicely, and pull in both metal and hardcore kids to shows. So, you can have a '*core' influence in your band without being labeled metalcore



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 5,2006 2:09pm
DreamingInExile said:
niccolai said:
However, there are bands that can be used as a 'bridge' that sound metalcoreish and metal at the same time. Depends on the metal though.


I find Seed to be of this nature. they're not a metalcore band, but they have some riffs that have that 'moshcore' feel to them. they're one of the few bands that I feel bridges the taboo gap between real metal and metalcore well.

***NOTE***
(specifically to Kyle[a.k.a. Seedbassist])
I'm not calling Seed metalcore, just relating the similarities with the feel of some of your songs. Seed's newer material is much more tech-metal then pseudo-core influenced metal.

But as I was saying, they bridge the gap nicely, and pull in both metal and hardcore kids to shows. So, you can have a '*core' influence in your band without being labeled metalcore




+1



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jul 5,2006 2:11pm
Animosity is metalcore?



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 5,2006 2:14pm
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Animosity is metalcore?


There's two. There's one from the UK that's kindof metalcoreish.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jul 5,2006 2:45pm
ahhh. danke



toggletoggle post by nickyhelliot  at Jul 5,2006 9:33pm
They love Glass casket, but they're starting to get into bands like "August burns red" when I'm getting into bands like "Waking the Cadaver". I guess I can make the vocals as metal as possible.



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