TUB RING have released the following explanation about the confrontation that took place between them and BLACK MY HEART at a recent show:

Carmel, IN 3-11-2006

- Tub Ring plays last out of 6 bands. All are hardcore / straight edge.
- Tub Ring sets last 35 minutes, no banter between songs, TR plays song to song to song, non-stop. NOTHING was said to the audience through the PA except right before TR starts playing... when jokingly TR remarks "you are going to need to listen to Elton John for a week to get all that hardcore out of your systems"
- Tub Ring plays for about 20 minutes, as TR plays, members of all the opening hardcore bands gathering on both sides of the stage watching TR play. FULL bottles of water begin to be thrown @ TR by these band members, then... a metal lock box, then out of nowhere a HUGE barstool is hurled, which hits TR's guitarist JEFF, breaking the headstock off of his guitar. Another chair hits Rob in the head, and then smashes his keyboard up.
- Tub Ring stops playing, and bassist Trevor follows fleeing hardcore band
assailants out into the hall behind the stage. Trevor confronts a dozen or so band members - not knowing who had thrown the barstool... and asks "what was that all about, and who's paying for that guitar?" - he is met by numerous responses including "you talk SH*T about hardcore, that's what you get". Trevor is then HEADBUTTED by Wheeler (singer of "Black My Heart") leaving both of them with bleeding cuts. Trevor now needs stitches on his face.
- All 5 hardcore bands begin to flee the scene, but thanks to a couple of quick thinking TR fans, their vans get boxed in the parking lot. Cops arrive & take pictures of the damage to Tub Ring's equipment and of Trevor's injuries, and Wheeler singer of "Black My Heart" is arrested and taken to jail. Nobody could confirm who actually had thrown the barstool which broke Tub Ring's equipment, but when asked all members of all 5 bands were heard to respond with comments such as "that's what you get for talking SH*T about hardcore" or "you're lucky the cops are here now or else we'd finish you off".

if anyone wants to dispute this story, or wants to claim TR said ANYTHING @
all derogatory about any of the HC bands or the SE way of life from stage that night... we have video of the whole show available shot by a fan.
Unfortunately the video did not have an angle which can identify the person
who threw the barstool.

Just a side note - when TR members asked the H/C band memebers "what did we say about H/C music that offended you?" - none of them even knew. None of them even brought up the Elton John statement, they all just said "we heard you were talking shit about H/C + S/E"

5 against 1. real tough guys.

that's the retarded gang mentality surrounding HC and SE for ya.

sucks that equipment and faces got broken over people not getting a fucking joke.

brian_dc said:

If the joke was the music you made, you wouldn't laugh either.

Wow, Black My Heart beating someone up? That's unheard of.


Real typical, real lame.

OOOH THATS TUFF

I hope Alan is okay. lol

davefromthegrave said:

I don't know...I'd get the joke in a metal context. If someone said the same thing at MDF about death metal if you take that as a jab at the genre, you are not bright.


Get it...they had just listened to a lot of hardcore. Elton John's not hardcore...oh my god, harmless joke turned into throwing chairs, nevermind it totally makes sense now.

I thought Black My Heart were the backing band for Joan Jett. What are they doing at a hardcore concert?

throwing waterbottles, barstools, and headbutting people named Trevor.

what the fuck...i don't know who tub ring is, but i have respect for that one dude in the band who confronted 12 guys without doing stupid shit like black my heart and the rest of those dumbasses. black my heart must have napolean complexes all around. they're all either 5'4" or weigh 110 pounds, and their guitarist got beat to pulp by xmikex from this board with ease, hahaha. fucking retards. and why would tub ring talk shit about hardcore if they're playing a hardcore show and more than likely are hardcore or affiliated to the genre?

i believe tub ring is x members of mr. bungle , i could be wrong though.

if its the same band they do an excellent salsa version of that outkast song from a couple summers ago

What the fuck is wrong with these hardcore / sxe kids? Jesus it's a fucking joke. No too hardcore to laugh. I have no problem with hardcore music but it's shit like this that just pisses me off. Never hear of Tub Ring but props to Trevor for talking to these kids in a civilized manner instead of just fighting 12 people. I bet those kids felt like asses when he tore them a new one.

they're a bunch of niggazzzz

I guess so.

Hardcore fans are the worst. It's like they all decided to de-evolve back into neanderthals or something. "Yeah, violence is totally the way to improve the scene."

the funniest part of this post is that the band has keyboards.

someone post a picture of the guitar player with a black eye who got his ass beat by our very own xmikex.

"the funniest part of this post is that the band has keyboards."

I'm glad I wasn't the only person that noticed that.

....singer of Black My Heart being arrested

Black My Heart isn't hardcore.

HEY! I HEARD YOU GUYS WERE SHIT TALKING HXC, SXE, AND MXC! NOBODY DISSES GUY LADOUCHE ON MY WATCH!

THE FACE OF A TUFF GUY, YOU DO NOT WANT TO FUCK WITH THIS 8 FOOT TALL TWO TON FIST SMASHING MACHINE

Yes, hardcore is dead.

is there a link to the video?

it is true that black my heart isn't hardcore. i don't think i want to acknowledge them as any type of music at all actually.

it is true that all those bands are pussies

what sucks is that my friends burn in silence are touring with black my heart...they're all cool dudes, especially since 3 of them are in goratory. i know they wouldn't do any of that shit since they're not retards, but they'll probably get caught up in this for no reason

RustedAngel said:

hahah, I've seen that picture countless times, but I never knew it was xmikex who did it. Someone please explain this story or link to a thread that explains it.

xmikex came up to me at the fallen friends benefit show at the palladium last may and gave me a brief rundown. i guess mike said he didn't like black my heart or something to that effect, then the guitarist from BMH started talking shit about mike. so mike beat the shit out of him in like 5 minutes, just to make an example out of him. hopefully mike will see this thread and give the whole story, cuz i'm sure i got something wrong, haha. mike shea, i salute you.

this one time at a show in shrewsbury these emo kids were running around doing cartwheels and shit and one came by right in front of us and almost kicked me in the face so i told him he sucked...then some giant samoan and 40 14 year olds came out of the woodwork with bats and stuff

good thing i wasn't angry...you wouldn't like me when i'm angry

My fucking penis has a greater diameter than that guy's arms. I guess that steroid freak from the other thread must have stolen this guy's triceps or something. No wonder he had to try so hard to seem tougher than someone else.

also, his hairstyle is gay.

davefromthegrave said:

that was hilarious

what a bunch of gayness.

brian_dc said:

what I was implying, is that the music those people make is a joke.

whoops! I should've figured.

tub ring is gay who cares if they got beat up.

and i doubt they would feel like asses when that trevor guy confronted them, didn't het get his guitar broken and face smashed. Who really felt like the ass?

you because you're anonymous and stick up for pussies

black clothes

anonymous said:

your momma does.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

Incorrect. Tub ring does have a very bungle-ish sound, but they're unrelated. The ex-bungle band you're thinking of is called Secret Chiefs, or Secret Chiefs 3 or something like that.

I know a handfull of nasty real metal guys that would love to snap the spines of some of these puny hc/mc tough guys.. it's no contest. snap your fingers snap your neck!

MCstillannoysme said:

how does this have anything to do with metal? i'm pretty sure tub ring was not metal, homo....

i don't think he's implying it has anything to do with tub ring. it seems like a generalized statement.

brian_dc said:

http://trevorisunworthy.ytmnd.com/

stupid statement then, just because you sing about evil stuff doesn't mean you are actually evil and could hurt anyone..... jackass jncos are not cool anymore homos

I'm not about to belch about who's hardcore, what's hardcore, and what it takes to be tough.

What I will bring up is the fact that nonsense like this is a real nice way to get a venue shut down. Venues that will book hardcore/metal/whatever shows are tough to come by wherever you go. If you want to talk about respect for a form of music, how about some respect for the process. Somebody went to a great deal of trouble to book a show, promote it, and give bands a chance to play. Now that kid is liable, a venue is in jeopardy, and a shit example is set to the younger kids of that area who don't know anything about scarcity of venues, or what it takes to make things happen in hardcore (and who probably already think that everything should be handed to them).

I'm not about to pass a judgement, I don't even know what happened, and by all logic I've got no right to an opinion here. But I've got to ask; Was it all really worth it to prove a point to "Tub Ring."

No judgements, no insults. Bottom line: I've been around long enough to see the consequences of such actions first hand, certain other aforementioned people have not. Figure it out.

And anyone who wants to know what happened with me and whatshisname are welcome to come see me in person and inquire. I'm not doing the messageboard thing..... and bring a blank VHS.

p.s. I don't care that Tub Ring got beat up.

ArrowHead nli said:

hmm i was told they were they keyboard and horn section of bungle. i dont know i never looked into it too deeply after that, so you could ever well be right. and the song was Hey Yeah

If Tyler had something to do with a band getting beat for disrespecting "hardcore" then that's the worst thing I've ever heard. That kid will always be an emo loser, no matter how many wardrobe changes he goes through.

trevor dunn was in mr bungle

The Trevor in Tub Ring is NOT Trevor Dunn. The only connection to Bungle is that Trey - the guitar player for Bungle produced one of Tub Rings albums. Get your facts right.

haha no

i like hardcore but stuff like this makes me sick......
beating someone up cause what they said (in this case it was what they thought they said)
give me a break it makes me sick that people would fight over words not even an action, i can't believe i support these bands.

well dont support them then....and to confirm Tub Ring has no members of Mr Bungle

you never hear much about shit like this at metal shows. you never hear about Magus Caliglia from Dark Funeral beating up Fenriz from Darkthrone or anything like that. stupid hardcore.

Yeti said:

No, but you hear about dudes from Mayhem eatting each others skulls

xmikex said:

How about I bring two blank VHSs, give you one, and trade for the damn patch?

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:

xmikex did that? he is honestly the superhero of this message board

Hardcore and SXE = Jocks in punk's clothing.

Night Ruiner said:

where have you been, going to hardcore shows these days is like going to a JV basketball tryout. its all basketball shorts, cut off t-shirts, basketball shoes, and baseball hats.

I don't know man, any hardcore shows I've been to as of late consist of K swiss, Redsocks hats, and fucking camo wu-wear.

I was at this show. As for the venue, it's in a stuck-up suburb of Indianapolis. For some reason Tub Ring was booked with 5 hxc bands. So a lot of us Tub Ring fans showed up in support because we knew they wouldn't be recieved well. The show was supposed to start aroun 7 and didn't until 8:30 or so. Tub Ring finally got to play at after midnight and the only people still there were Tub Ring fans out of some couple of a hundred people. We all had a good time and it was ruined by some angry jerk-offs. Not to say that it was because the were hxc or sxe who cares, I saw their band, they were not good. Tub Ring got into a situation that they did not ask for and were not informed on the type of venue they were playing at. Anyone who lives in Central Indiana know's CPAC=retarded stuck up scene hxc kids with no idea of what good music is. Somehow Tub Ring got booked there and I'm glad because the half hour they played was awesome.

nick said:

its not basketball shorts its xDANCINGshortsx

bring your xDANCING SHORTSx said:

christ im out of the loop.

terrible

lmao. I think the guy WAS wearing those same shorts or at least something that said SXE. gawh

The camo G*Unit look was so last year.

Let's see:
1. Organized Dance Moves
2. Cliques
3. Fashion Trends
4. Act cool in groups / insecure when along

Am I describing a High School cheerleader squad? Nope, just the hardcore scene.