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returntothepit >> discuss >> how come japanese horror owns american horror? by Joe/NotCommon on Jan 11,2005 12:57am
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toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 11,2005 12:57am
I just watched the jap version of the grudge and it's not even the same movie as the american version, thank god.

I fucking loved the jap version. Plus The Eye was incredible and some others I've seen.

I hate that movie THE RING, but now I am interested in seeing Ringu because it's probably awesome.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Jan 11,2005 1:06am
Ringu is pretty good nothing like the US version



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 11,2005 1:08am
Todd, you should check out the jap version of The grudge, and also The Eye. Two great horror movies.

If anyone can recomend me some others that would rule.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Jan 11,2005 1:24am
Check out ...

Evil Dead Trap
Ichi the Killer



toggletoggle post by El Justin at Jan 11,2005 1:32am
ichi the killer fucking rules...ultra gory

also visitor q is alright...it's just really screwed up...both films by takeshi miike



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Jan 11,2005 1:56am
Japanese horror is better because Japan rules, it's that simple. lol some awesome Asian flicks to check out

Battle Royale (though part 2 sucks ass)
Azumi
A Tale of Two Sisters
Oldboy
Sky High
Audition
Versus




toggletoggle post by MikeFuck  at Jan 11,2005 4:39am
Anything by Takashi Miike is fucking ridiculous; Ichi the Killer, Audition, Three Extremes, and Full Metal Yakuza are my favorites. He makes a new movie every three months or so. Check out the Dead Or Alive series for guys deep frying their own hands or a woman drowning in a kiddie pool of her own shit and piss.



toggletoggle post by Mike Proteus at Jan 11,2005 8:27am
Tetsuo: The Iron Man is the beginning and end of all other japanese (bizarre) cinema.



toggletoggle post by Scoracrasia   at Jan 11,2005 8:54am
I really want to see audition. I heard it is pretty fucked up.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 11,2005 9:19am
thanks guys, i got the same recomendations on another board, so i will be looking into those flicks.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 11,2005 9:22am
a couple more movies you should check out are ichi the killer and battle royale.

ichi the killer is sick twisted fucked up gore. also there' sviolent rape in it.

battle royale is a story about a class of high school kids who misbehave, so they're put on an island with weapons and only one will be allowed to leave alive.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 11,2005 9:23am
i'm not really looking for gore movies, but i will probably check them out anyway.



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Jan 11,2005 10:40am
Audition is so good I wish I'd never seen it

man o man



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jan 11,2005 10:42am
wow, that's formidable.

now I've GOT to see it, at risk of being called a ballbreaker

(but I hear balls are not the ONLY things she breaks/amputates in the film)



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Jan 11,2005 10:50am
Now, is The Eye more along the lines of supernatural horror, or outright gore/slasher/ violence type horror?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 12,2005 9:39am
paganmegan said:
Now, is The Eye more along the lines of supernatural horror, or outright gore/slasher/ violence type horror?


real horror, i think movies that rely on gore to be scary are retarded, sometimes funny though.

The Eye is about a blind girl who gets an eye transplant, but the eyes she gets are from a psychic who died, and well then it goes from there.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 12,2005 9:48am
I haven't seen any japan and even american horror movie that's better than alien/aliens/predator. we win.



toggletoggle post by eben@florida at Jan 12,2005 9:52am
ringu owns, jap grudge owns, super milk chan owns, and so on...



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 12,2005 10:15am
the first alien was good, the second was ok, the rest were terrible, predator was awesome, predator 2 was one of the worst 10 movies ever, i refused to see alien vs predator.



toggletoggle post by ASSuck   at Jan 12,2005 10:34am
anything the japanese do will better the american version



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Jan 12,2005 11:19am
because americans only care about special effects, and stupid superficial bullshit. every american horror movie is the same.

take The Grudge for example. The whole movie moved along the same idea: first you'd have the long quiet pause, and then some scary face would pop out or something and everyone in the theater pretends that they didn't know it was coming.

Every American horror movie in the last decade or so has used the exact same sound effects, and background music too. Darkness basically took the sound track of The Ring, cheesed it up with some Duke Nukem sound effects and slapped it on a boring movie.

I thought the Ring was the sole exception in the past few years. It was the only movie with even half way decent photography, and a worthwhile plot. Following the American release of the Ring every single American horror movie went to work the next day thinking of ways to rip it off, and water it down.

I read "Ring" by Koji Suzuki (the book it was based off of) a few months ago. And the book was, as expected, better than the movie. The Japanese movie followed the book more, but wasn't as good of a film.



toggletoggle post by assuck   at Jan 12,2005 12:09pm
the ring (american version) was the most overrated piece of garbage i've ever seen



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Jan 12,2005 12:32pm
ASSuck said:
anything the japanese do will better the american version


so true. we had 9/11. they had 2 atomic bombs dropped on them. we just cant win.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jan 13,2005 9:14am
I realized this morning that I am a softie

because even though I've yet to be shocked by ANY horror movie since Henry (except for the decap video of Eugene Armstrong)

I still cry during the end of 'Watership Down'



toggletoggle post by Mike Proteus at Jan 13,2005 9:21am
Eraserhead is more disturbing and unsettling than any "horror" film thats out there.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jan 13,2005 9:25am
ooh yeah

"Mom! They're not even sure it IS a baby!"

dude, that's playing at the Brattle in Cambridge, end of the month

BIG David Lynch fest



toggletoggle post by Mike Proteus at Jan 13,2005 10:07am
litacore said:
ooh yeah

"Mom! They're not even sure it IS a baby!"

dude, that's playing at the Brattle in Cambridge, end of the month

BIG David Lynch fest


I paid a decent amount of cash to get the "Lynch approved" Eraserhead dvd off his site. A Lynch fest would be my utopia, i'll definitely be there.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jan 13,2005 10:50am
end of the month. It's playing on the 28th.

http://www.brattlefilm.org/



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