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returntothepit >> discuss >> To all you vegan haters and shittalkers out there: A Lesson In Your Evil Ways by the_taste_of_cigarettes on Sep 23,2004 8:17pm
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toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 23,2004 8:17pm
so let it be known that veganism isn't just for hippies.

for instance,

I am not vegan but eat a vegan diet. Occassionally people rag on me for it and I set out to prove myself, or I find a pastry or something that isn't vegan but i like pastry so I go for it. I then eat something with milk or eggs.

Following this, i have encountered these problems:

-Nausea accompanied with severe, sharp stomach pains
-Diarrhea (often "the runs")
-Constipation
-Blood in my stool
-Bloating
-Dehydration / Dizziness
-other forms of discomfort

this has been happening EVERY TIME I eat something with dairy in it or eggs (though MUCH MUCH moreso with dairy) for the past year.

In fact, I know that it is from dairy so well that in Seattle, I drank some Jones soda drink and encoutered some of the symptoms. I was confused, because it was a beverage...a juice drink. I went back and read the ingredients, and the third of forth one was "non-fat skim milk." Apparently it was a smoothie-type-thing. I had only about 1oz worth.

Today i ate a cookie with milk fat (the chips), butter, and 1 egg. I then had enough blood in my stool to look like someone poured red ink in the bowl.


So that said, I'm probably not going to eat anything from animals again anytime soon, due to health issues. People's bodies stop making enzymes for things once we stop eating them for a while, like dairy products or certain animal proteins.

Be nice to your local vegan! It might not be your choice for diet, but it's theirs and picking on them will just make them eat the donut or ice cream and shit blood like me. (holds stomach in pain)



toggletoggle post by humanbonedeathmachine at Sep 23,2004 8:19pm
ha ha you care about the animals



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Sep 23,2004 8:23pm
i was vegan for 8 months. really hard to do at college where they stick butter in every other frigging thing.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 23,2004 8:23pm
hippie



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Sep 23,2004 8:24pm
Do you think it's because you're lactose intolerant?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 23,2004 8:31pm
I became lactose intolerant after a while. Prior to civilization, we only really drank milk when it came from our mothers, and then when we stopped the enzyme the breaks down lactose turns off as it is superfluous and the body need not manufacture it anymore. However, since the production of dairy on a more consistent basis, with animal husbandry and all, dairy enzymes stay on longer as we take them in.

It is very common for long-term vegans to eventually "become" lactose intolerant after a point. When I was in junior high, I used to chug a gallon skim milk a day. Now, if I even have a sip of somethign with dairy, or eat pizza that had cheese on it prior, I get like this (feels awful)


Point is, so many people go "Dude, just eat the fucking pizza" or "It's only a little meat" or even say "It's totally vegan" but really has cheese or chicken broth in it and it's pretty god damn ignorant cause they do that thinking it's all just a "choice" but at some point it's very tough for your body to turn back. My friend Tristan was vegan for pretty much his whole life - his parents raised him vegetarian and at like 8 or 9 he switched to vegan. Then at 20 or so he tried a piece of fish and threw up like you wouldn't imagine.

He ate a piece of pizza in Europe since he had trouble finding vegan food and got so backed up he had to go to the hospital.

All I'm saying is be a little more compassionate to people who are vegan, treat them as they have legitimate food allergies after a while, cause otherwise we can get really really sick...and it's not very funny when that happens. :(



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 23,2004 8:35pm
eat some meet hippie.



toggletoggle post by nick   at Sep 23,2004 8:53pm
how about dont go vegan in the first place.
or do a little more research on the horrors of going from a vegan diet to a non vegan diet.
that way they will be more prepared for when they decide to 'BREAK THE VEG'.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Sep 23,2004 9:28pm
who cares?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 23,2004 10:47pm
(shrugs) only me I think.



toggletoggle post by humanbonedeathmachine at Sep 23,2004 11:33pm
im only fuggin around, i cut a lot of dairy out, except cheese but i still eat meat just because you never know when you'll have to go fishing or shoot a deer for survival. i like having that option instead of being totally 100% reliant on the supermarket for food



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Sep 23,2004 11:34pm
I don't get why you made this post, since it wasn't an issue with anyone? You lost your mind.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 23,2004 11:39pm
true.

well

kind of true.

trust me, when you don't eat meat, people push all sorts of crazy food on you and try and tell you that you should just eat it. But when you do and you shit blood, that proves it's not so funny...like the "till someone loses an eye" thing.

(shrugs) if anything it makes for an interesting biopic into my life.



toggletoggle post by Preserver of the Food Supply at Sep 24,2004 1:40am
You can't beat the meat my friend.
Especially cute animal meat.

Mmmmmm....tasty kitty....



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 24,2004 1:44am
I may be vegetarian, but I LOVE TO EAT PUSSY!



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead  at Sep 24,2004 1:59am
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
trust me, when you don't eat meat, people push all sorts of crazy food on you and try and tell you that you should just eat it. But when you do and you shit blood, that proves it's not so funny


You intentionally removed yourself from the food chain, and you expect anyone to have sympathy?




toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 24,2004 2:02am
I'm not vegan, I just eat what is considered a vegan diet.

There's a difference. It's like listening to a hardcore band or calling yourself "hardcore". They're worlds apart.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Sep 24,2004 3:04am
Join the BFMC... Barbarians for Meat Consumption...



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Sep 24,2004 6:21am
Joe/NotCommon said:
who cares?


Yeah, doesn't this belong in a live journal or something?



toggletoggle post by Lynneaus  at Sep 24,2004 8:33am
im making steak stuffed with ham and egg and cheese and crushed bacon on top of it for dinner.... im gonna wash it down with some milk i got from a cow next door and have beef terriaki (instead of a popsicle) for dessert.

anyone want to come over?



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 24,2004 8:43am
Lynneaus said:
im making steak stuffed with ham and egg and cheese and crushed bacon on top of it for dinner.... im gonna wash it down with some milk i got from a cow next door and have beef terriaki (instead of a popsicle) for dessert.

anyone want to come over?



is that to make up for the last meat free meal you had at my place?



toggletoggle post by Lynneaus  at Sep 24,2004 9:12am
lol actually i prob wont eat... i have to work tonight but i just like buggin you vegetarians/vegans... meat is really so amazing tasting



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 24,2004 9:13am
i could never be vegan, i'd die without cheese because i'm italian



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 24,2004 9:29am
being a meatatarian is the best.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 24,2004 9:31am
i knew a kid back in high school who would walk up to people in the cafeteria and yell at them for eating meat or wearing leather jackets. he used to get the shit beaten out of him.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 24,2004 9:32am
"dude there's nothing better than like man listening to jerry like wiggin' out on the guitar" - grateful dead fan

10 seconds later, god killed jerry.
I think he was fair.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 24,2004 10:02am
ha



toggletoggle post by the taste of cigarettes at Sep 24,2004 10:35am
One time I didn't eat meat for a half hour and both my arms fell off.

Then once I thought about even the word "vegetarian" and my eyes shot out and landed in my soup, covered in pus.

I will never, ever think about that evil word or that evil breed of hippy again!!


Maybe I should have titled the thread:

"Excerpts from my potential DeadJournal"
"The perils of Lactose Intolerance"
"Minorities Lose Out Again: People To Poop On After Rosa Parks"



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 24,2004 10:37am
or "Why I'm such a hippie"



toggletoggle post by the taste of cigarettes at Sep 24,2004 10:39am
damn it!!!!!

I never had dreads.

This is a rumor x 7.



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