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: post by ShadowSD at 2013-01-03 09:26:22
Boozegood said[orig][quote]
Ah, I see the confusion. Being banned in 1986 means that all Machine-Guns manufactored after 1986 cannot be sold.


Exactly, here's the text from the guncite link I posted above, which I probably should have posted from the start for clarity's sake, because I didn't know all the specifics until I had read it myself:

"It has been unlawful since 1934 (The National Firearms Act) for civilians to own machine guns without special permission from the U.S. Treasury Department. Machine guns are subject to a $200 tax every time their ownership changes from one federally registered owner to another, and each new weapon is subject to a manufacturing tax when it is made, and it must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in its National Firearms Registry.

To become a registered owner, a complete FBI background investigation is conducted, checking for any criminal history or tendencies toward violence, and an application must be submitted to the ATF including two sets of fingerprints, a recent photo, a sworn affidavit that transfer of the NFA firearm is of "reasonable necessity," and that sale to and possession of the weapon by the applicant "would be consistent with public safety." The application form also requires the signature of a chief law enforcement officer with jurisdiction in the applicant's residence.

Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians. Machine guns which were manufactured prior to the Act's passage are regulated under the National Firearms Act, but those manufactured after the ban cannot ordinarily be sold to or owned by civilians."


Considering how few Americans have died from machine guns in the last eighty years, this level of control shows a track record of success, and disproves the argument that controls don't keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

What I really wonder is, since - as you pointed out - you can get a machine gun as a law-abiding citizen despite these restrictions - why shouldn't this be the model for how all weapons capable of firing rapidly are regulated?

Personally, all I want is what works, not more gun restrictions in every case: for instance, since the 1934 restrictions on machine guns were adequate, I don't see that the extra regulations in 1986 were necessary; I would be for a compromise that dropped the 1986 restrictions and went back to the 1934 standard for machine guns in return for that standard being also applied to all weapons capable of quickly firing and reloading. That way law-abiding citizens have them, and criminals don't.
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