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[QUOTE="ark:1283047"][QUOTE="DestroyYouAlot:1282836"][QUOTE="Burnsy:1282834"] Your position seems to be one that says agnosticism is a branch of atheism but for me, it's the difference between yes, no and maybe.[/QUOTE] Ok, for you it can be different, but from an objective standpoint, that actually is the case. It's not so much "my position" as "the actual literal definition of the word". Agnostic basically means "I am an atheist, but prefer not to make waves by proclaiming myself such." [/QUOTE] Atheists range from those who will either not acknowledge that deity(ies) exist but not necessarily deny their existence (implicit), or claim the statement "a deity does not exist" (explicit). The whole spectrum of atheists implicitly or explicitly deny the supernatural/spiritual existence. Agnostics claim that the existence of deities is [i]unknowable[/i] and unquantifiable by any standard. This is the only claim that the agnostic makes. The agnostic doesn't deny spirituality, or question the existence of deities, but rather questions the one making the claim for their existence or nonexistence. There is a difference, atheists claim nonexistence, but agnostics claim unknowable. Atheists and theists both claim to know, and the agnostic says to both: "prove it." Agnostics believe that human perception and reasoning will always fail to verify either position. [/QUOTE]
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