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:	post by ouchdrummer at 2011-03-11 16:04:05

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I would say that anyone taking salvia extract* would have what YOU would refer to as a "metal" trip. I always say that Salvia's evil, but what i really mean is that it has really dark trips; it makes you see almost nothing but black and red, it makes most people feel like their skin isn't quite attached/crawling, it makes you feel like you're being either crushed or stretched depending on the user, and LOTS o' folks say that they feel the darkness/void pulling on them. I don't recommend anyone to do this drug. While thepsychologist claims that his trip was "metal", i bet that's how he looks at it right NOW.... i bet right AFTER it happened he was calling it Terrifying. I've done DMT freebase, ayahuasca, and IV, Belladonna, Datura, & Brugmansia, heroic doses of LSD, LSA, PCP & Mushrooms, smoked toad venom, done Nutmeg extract, eaten Mescaline (among about 20 types of psychedelic cacti), and Ate/Smoked/IV about 15 research chemis (Tryptamines/Phenethylamines) and the ONLY trippy drug i would never recommend is:

SALVIA

Yeah so fucked

I did it without knowing what the hell it was... My buddy said it was like going back in time and seeing your past flash before you but you could also feel like you might die.... I thought that sounded great!

Power ripped it twice off a 3 ft bong and then it was as if a void of complete terror and madness swept through the room... My friends said I was looking through a window speaking in tongues.

I remember falling on the floor and it felt like everything was spinning in circles and the rug was wrapping itself around me. I could not tell which way was up or down or left or right. It also felt like I could not breathe and I was going to be stuck in it for eternity.... There was also the sense of being completely erased. It was definately horrific...

When coming down from it I kept thinking/visualizing the biblical passage where the guy possessed was saying to the shepherd " We are Legion, for there are many of us" and then all the farm animals run off the cliff...

Twas fucked and its pretty odd that this drug is actually legal... It had none of the transcendent effects that mushrooms or lsd has for me... It was just complete hell... In retrospect I'm glad I did it but I don't plan on it again anytime soon...

I also spoke in tongues when i did the 60x extract. I packed a very large glass bong full of it, ripped it in one hit with a butane lighter (supposedly you lose 50% of the Salvinorum-A if you don't use a torch) and then it hit:

All i remember is being in a chamber.. it was all shades of red everywhere, and i was stuck in the wall, which was rotating as though being lodged on the end of a ferris wheel spoke. The big problem being that i saw the rotation taking me into an area void of matter that was literally sucking all of the electric energy out of the air around me. I saw that i was to be crushed in the black whole that i had conjured, and the only thing i could do was watch..

What ACTUALLY happened (told by my best bud and partner in exploring other dimensions, our souls, and the logos.) : Jim stood up and ran full on face first into a wall. He was SCREAMING nonsense and couldn't stay on his feet. He fell back hard, right on my glass coffee table (RIP) and then shot up to his feet again and tried to claw his way out of our front door and onto the main street in Alston that we lived on. After restraining him in a very sloppy full-nelson for a few minutes he started asking me what the fuck i was hugging him for.....

The reason so many people say that this shit is NOT a big deal is simple. It has a very defined *threshold dose, and that dose is considerable higher that you can easily get from smoking the leaf by itself. Even most of the extracts don't have enough salvinorum-A in them for you to trip from them without the use of butane lighter, and a glass bong. So what ends up happening is that most kids that try it don't do NEARLY enough, and they feel something profoundly lame, that's not even as strong as a single hit of pot, and then they brag about it to friends who in turn don't do enough of the drug... till people like myself, Paul, or the original poster try it, do it right, and get fucking bent over by it.

*Threshold dose: an amount of a substance needed to reach the level of intoxication that people associate with the drug. Any amount below this level will feel like almost nothing, then even 1milligram over, and you can be sailing through dimensions of hell.

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