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:	post by ShadowSD at 2010-04-22 09:54:24

This is 4/20 week after all, so maybe we can corner him at the show.

ouchdrummer said	[orig][quote]
my friend, and sound efficienado-BLUE will be coming to this show, and he has a nice bass drum mic he keeps with him in his car.

I think we have a winner.

ouchdrummer said	[orig][quote]
As fas as snare/toms.. i think they CAN be heard, and i plan on having MINE heard, but i think a big part of that is where you're setting up the drums. I set mine up on the side, in front of the amps. And that gives them a much better chance of being heard. (You can turn the amps up, you can't turn the drums up.) Also you gotta whale on the drums, which is also up to the drummer.

I think individual musicians matter as well because some people hit harder than others on average. With our drummer, we'd never mic the snare and toms for volume's sake (unless the room was gigantic), only for that aforementioned reverb trick, because he hits pretty hard when it comes to the heavy stuff and it would be overkill; I'd consider Matt Johnson of Despoilment another top-notch drummer with this same quality. On the other hand, I've seen plenty of good bands where a really impressive drummer had to do a ton of fast beats during a set and you could barely hear the drums for a lot of it, not because the guitar volume was ridiculous, but because the drummer wasn't the hardst hitter and was pacing himself out of necessity; in these sorts of situations, it sounds great if the snare and toms are mic'd but fairly lacking otherwise. There are also times as a soundguy when I've had to turn up the kick drum microphone five times as loud for a particular band that I really liked because their drummer muffled it a lot and didn't hit it too hard - and I always had to adjust a bit for each drummer I ran sound for even the kick drum was the only one being mic'd. So it really depends on the player.

Guitar volume is all about the presence factor in the guitar tone. If we were say a straight thrash band, I could have a 100 Watt Cab and be fine in any mid-sized room without a microphone. But since the guitar tone I go for is more of a doomy, gothic, low-end driven sound that cuts out a LOT of midrange, even with my 400W half stack cab, it still helps to have an extra boost because our drummer is on the louder side - because, as a flip side to the rule you mentioned, when a hard hitting drummer plays a heavy beat, he can't "turn down" either.

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