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: post by xmikex at 2009-03-16 21:53:21
I'm very glad that this thread spiraled way the hell off topic. It's been very informative so far.

As far as stretching is concerned I prefer quick static stretching followed by 5-10 minutes of jumping rope. I carry a lot of stress in my back, my neck, and in my legs and I sometimes get neck pains if I don't stretch decently before going into any cardio.

I'm glad that grappling was brought up. As much as I kind of hate grappling it's an amazing exercise. I had some pretty noticeable separation in my chest muscles after only a few months of grappling.
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