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:	post by Chris Fuckin' Lillyman at 2008-12-30 15:49:35

RE: The "old" PTL.... Rob(ax) and I (bass) wrote all the songs but one. We did all of the PR work... all the networking... ask anyone from the old days who the first PTL person to contact them was... It's our fucking band. During the recent "re-unions" Ray and his ego responded to the adulation from his "Dr. Death" fans by promoting himself to "boss" of PTL. Rob and I had other projects in the works and were glad someone else was finally doing something besides us. Ray placed one of his wackpack / crackhead friends in the role of "manager" . The guy was incompetent, knew nothing about hardcore. (neither does Ray for that matter)... That was the beginning of the end... I said "he's gone or I'm done" (meaning PTL is done)... Ray said "ok, you're out" That's how much respect Ray had for what I do. Ron went along with his older brother.... Rob came to his senses later an asked me to do this with him again.... Rob found the drummer and I found the front man.... hense the demise of the old PTL and the beginning of the new.... Ray and Ron are welcome to make as much money off of the product they contributed to as they want... but they are no longer part of the band PTL KLUB.

RE: the "NEW" PTL, After a short amount of time and lots of hard work, we're (The New PTL) aproaching the same intensity ' tightness that the old 80"s PTL had, combined with a positive, creative attitude. We don't all fucking hate each others guts and Rob and I are in charge, just like it used to be. I think anyone that saw us at Anchors Up could tell we were diggin' the shit outta it. But regardless, go ahead and try calling someone in my band a "scab" next time you see us... CAH

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