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:	post by theaccurseddrummer at 2006-12-26 14:43:50

blackmetallady said:

pam nli said:

Marks and pay to play is gay.

It's not gay if an unknown band wants exsposure in front of a lot of people that they normally would not be in front of. Besides, the bands can make their money back by selling the tickets. It's not rocket science, people. It's also an opportunity to sell merch.

You can't be serious? That's a cop out, and there's no way to possibly intelligently defend a stance like that. You can't tell me that asking a band to pay the promoter or club to play a show isn't lax promotion and piss-poor show management. Especially if that band is going to have to travel to play, haul in their own gear, etc. Don't talk about selling tickets, how is a band from MA or RI for example going to sell tickets to a show in Maine when anyone who would buy said tickets could just as easily drive 20 minutes to see the same band locally for less money? The icing on that cake is bands that suck it up and do that footwork get paid less, if at all. Pay to play is gay, no matter what the circumstance. Football teams don't sell tickets to play in their own game, the crowd pays, buys drinks, buys merch. You should be paying bands to play, not asking for a handout to help pay the headliner and doing your promotion. I've booked big enough shows with decent drawing bands and never pulled that shit. It's not about "can you sell X# tickets," but "can you come to our show and play your music for the people who like this style." The club should sell its own tickets, promote its own shows and make money at the door and selling drinks/food/etc., and then the bands should get paid. A band should never be forced to pony up cash for tickets and then hope to make enough in ticket sales to break even. That's nonsense.

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