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returntothepit >> discuss >> ALIEN VS. PREDATOR - NOW PLAYING by RustedAngel on Aug 13,2004 2:59pm
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toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 2:59pm
As soon as I get outta this facken place I'm heading straight to chunky's cinema to catch this. I'm getting there 2 hours before the movie actually starts. I have high hopes for this movie as I've been waiting like 10 years to see a battle between the two classic monsters. I'll post my review here later.




toggletoggle post by soulsnot  at Aug 13,2004 3:01pm
Seriously... 2 hours before it starts! will you be headbanging in the parking lot to CSDO?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 3:02pm
obviously, I have the new disc in my player right now.



toggletoggle post by soulsnot  at Aug 13,2004 3:05pm
can I come and hang before the movie!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 3:07pm
go buy predator collectors ed. so you get a free ticket to the movie.



toggletoggle post by soulsnot  at Aug 13,2004 3:08pm
I just want to headbang in the parking lot!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 3:09pm
heavy metal parking lot... cult classic.



toggletoggle post by soulsnot  at Aug 13,2004 3:10pm
We could do an alien Vs. predator parking lot!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 13,2004 3:11pm
as I said before, aliens? on earth? before the future movies?
eat my dick



toggletoggle post by vivi at Aug 13,2004 3:17pm
everyone whos seen this said its a puckering shit stained asshole of a film. they all used that phrase which is incredible because they dont know each other and one was a deaf mute whos first words were the aforementioned.



toggletoggle post by aliciagrace  at Aug 13,2004 3:21pm
RustedAngel said:
go buy predator collectors ed. so you get a free ticket to the movie.


my friend tried that and there wasnt any ticket inside of it, we were both pissed.

Everyone should go tonight, it can be a RTTP field trip.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 3:23pm
mine had a ticket in it for up to a $12 ticket. Hard to believe some movie theaters charge $12.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 3:23pm
the_reverend said:
as I said before, aliens? on earth? before the future movies?
eat my dick


stay home shitbag, we don't need you.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 3:24pm
vivi said:
everyone whos seen this said its a puckering shit stained asshole of a film. they all used that phrase which is incredible because they dont know each other and one was a deaf mute whos first words were the aforementioned.



everyone who's seen it? like who? it just came out today. I don't trust movie reviewers.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 13,2004 3:24pm
he's going to a show though

i think we're gonna go to the movies on sunday...dunno which one though



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Aug 13,2004 4:40pm
There was a midnight showing @ Appletree Cinemas,that place is neat,got tix from a buddy at COCK 101



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Aug 13,2004 5:34pm
seeing this baby tonight after band practice cant wait any longer!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 13,2004 5:42pm
appletree mall ahahahaha.
I used to shop at zayres there.
there was a mean midget guy that worked at the cinemas and use to boot us out of r movies.



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Aug 13,2004 6:19pm
RustedAngel said:
obviously, I have the new disc in my player right now.


don't u mean the new 8-track?



toggletoggle post by Iren_the_Viking   at Aug 13,2004 6:28pm
heavy metal parking lot, so good haha



toggletoggle post by DysenteryVokills   at Aug 13,2004 8:54pm
Oh yeah! going to see it in an hour or so but im leaving in like 10 minutes..been waiting awhile for this gonna be fucking sik! or atleast i Hope!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 13,2004 10:06pm
just got back from the theater...


quick review:

they used little CG which was awesome, everything looked pretty real. The movie lacked character development, everyone dies off pretty quick so you don't feel anything when someone dies. the only person in this from the other alien movies is 'bishop' the andriod, only he's a real 'powerful' person in this so further down the road they must make the andriod after his looks. There wasn't any profanity, even when the chick says "you're one ungly mother------------" it cuts to a sound before she says it... It wasn't gory enough, I mean christ, the original Predator movie was pretty brutal for its time... now everything is like held back just so so more kids under 17 can pay to see it.... also I thought they didn't do a good job on the detailed features of the predator face when he takes off his mask... They should have made this 2 hours long, and added more into it.... I look foreward to alien 5 though if that does begin production sometime.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 13,2004 10:32pm
DOES PREDATOR CUM GREEN?



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 13,2004 11:13pm
saw it today. went with spladino and alicia and her friend. She turned the movie into a friggin comedy. and the moie, well... wait till it comes out on video.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Aug 13,2004 11:27pm
I enjoyed the movie very much. I really had doubts about the fact that it was on earth and the pg 13 rating but i would have to say it was violent enough. There were a few swears in the movie, both shit and fuck were both said, haha. Id also have to say that the Queen alien looked the best in this movie, makes the one in the 2nd and 4th one look really lame.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Aug 13,2004 11:55pm
the movie was gay. they ruined any coolness that the AVP franchise had. thanks hollywood.



toggletoggle post by Josiah_the_Black  at Aug 14,2004 12:22am
i boo this movie



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Aug 14,2004 12:46am
i thought in the begining the movie was good but got lame fast
didn't anyone feel that the predators died too fast!? i mean come on! they're bad fucking ass! it could have been longer and could have done without humans, made it wayyyyy to nice for younger audience, it was awesome seeing the predators in action though, i could never get sick of seeing them
5/10



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Aug 14,2004 1:07pm
i've said this since i first heard they were making a movie. it should be 2 hours of pure carnage, period. fuck this whole temple in antarctica or wherever they are. just have the aliens somehow show up in NYC, the predators follow, and there's a gigantic battle in NY for 2 hours, with people dying left and right. no dialogue at all. i haven't seen the movie yet but i will



toggletoggle post by Slayer272   at Aug 14,2004 1:44pm
I like Kalopsia's theory
I've been looking forward to this movie for a long time, hopefully it won't let me down like The Village and Collateral did.



toggletoggle post by DysenteryVokills   at Aug 14,2004 1:50pm
I thought i t was pretty good...it needede to be longer the whole "battle" was short as hell. The predator is alot bigger in this movie like hes been benching a few hundred tons waiting for this to come out.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Aug 14,2004 1:56pm
IM glad to see someone else liked it, yea i do think it was a tad too short



toggletoggle post by JoeDavolla  at Aug 14,2004 2:25pm
Sounds like it sucked.Im goin to see Exorcist:The Beginning instead.Horror is much better than Sci Fi in my opinion



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Aug 14,2004 6:35pm
powerkok said:
DOES PREDATOR CUM GREEN?


haha, if i ever work in the film industry, you got a job!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2004 7:45pm
THAT PRETTY MUCH SUCKED.
the aliens were ok, too much CGI.
basically there was an hour of build up into a 20 minutes of semi-ok fighting. a lot of the alien movements moved way too fast to really see. the pyramid moved around stupidly. the end with the fight was an interesting twist, but dumb. the VERY end with the new aliens sucked. though I was wondering about when the face hugger that went at the predator.

what was up with the 5 minute incubation time on the aliens?
with all the destruction rought at the pyramid, how could there be another battle in 100 years? where the hell are they going to battle then?



toggletoggle post by Jellyfish at Aug 22,2004 7:49pm
i refuse to see this movie.



toggletoggle post by dugoxistance at Aug 22,2004 7:57pm
An interesting note on this movie that I just realized the other day. It takes place before the 1st Predator. That's why predators decided to hunt humans because the black chick was so tough. They didn't need aliens anymore since humans seemed to be a formidible enough prey. Neat concept I think. Anyways, look forward to 2 more AVPs and an Alien 5 (J. Cameron, Weaver and Arnold are supposedly on board for this).



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2004 7:59pm
you mean if "It takes place before the 1st Predator"
how do you know what year that's in?
avp was 2004, p1 was 1970 (I thought) cause it's during vietnam.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 22,2004 8:02pm
No 80s. It was in south america.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2004 8:08pm
so doug is wrong cause last time I looked
so....
if(1980 < 2004)
return "doug's wrong";
else
return "swamplord and aaron are wrong";



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2004 8:10pm
dugoxistance said:
AVPs


if that's a joke, it's really clever.



toggletoggle post by dugoxistance at Aug 22,2004 8:10pm
nope. in predator 2 which takes place in 2018 or something like that in the near future Gary Busey's character explains that something like this happened 2 years earlier in South America (which was predator 1) and that he's been after it since.



toggletoggle post by dugoxistance at Aug 22,2004 8:12pm
no joke AVP trilogy in the works. They left AVP open at the end with the predator chestburster.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2004 8:14pm
huh... I'm going to have to subscrib to your news letter.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 22,2004 8:20pm
movie sucked. the flashback where it showed the preditors being worshipped by the humans was decent, everything else about the movie sucked.



toggletoggle post by dugoxistance at Aug 22,2004 8:20pm
yeah, I have nothing else better to do than make up my own hollywood rumors. sheesh.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 22,2004 8:29pm
the_reverend said:
THAT PRETTY MUCH SUCKED.
the aliens were ok, too much CGI.
basically there was an hour of build up into a 20 minutes of semi-ok fighting. a lot of the alien movements moved way too fast to really see. the pyramid moved around stupidly. the end with the fight was an interesting twist, but dumb. the VERY end with the new aliens sucked. though I was wondering about when the face hugger that went at the predator.

what was up with the 5 minute incubation time on the aliens?
with all the destruction rought at the pyramid, how could there be another battle in 100 years? where the hell are they going to battle then?


there was barely any CGI in that movie, what are you talking about. there were like 2 scenes of CGI.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 22,2004 8:35pm
The thing that was scool about the movie was the whole thing about the predators comming a long time ago and humans worshiping them. Check this out.

http://ragz-international.com/sumeria.htm



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 22,2004 8:46pm
mehh



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 22,2004 8:47pm
the mehh was for the movie



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2004 8:55pm
RustedAngel said:
there was barely any CGI in that movie, what are you talking about. there were like 2 scenes of CGI.


or... whenever the aliens were moving quickly it was CGI.

I'm pretty sure the queen running at the end was stolen from the first jurassic park's T-Rex



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 22,2004 8:56pm
There are things wrong with the story.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Aug 22,2004 9:00pm edited Aug 22,2004 9:01pm
In predator 2 at the begining it says its the year 1997, and that particular scene your talking dugoxistance, about he says 10 years ago if i recall correctly.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 22,2004 9:20pm edited Aug 22,2004 9:23pm
Ok here goes
In the future somewhere Ripley and her crew (Dallas' crew) get fucked by the Alien. The company thought it might be there. Only Ripley survives.

The second one, Aliens (the best one) shes found 57 (I do believe)years later in hyper sleep. They send her with a buch of marienes cause the company (again) knows that the Aliens are there and that they killed every one in the colony on LB-426. The public never knew about the Aliens. Every one execpt for Ripley, Newt and Corp. Hicks survive. (and Bishod the android)

Alien 3. The ship (Sulaco) that they escaped and crash lands on a prison colony planet. Only Repley survives. A face hugger got into the Sulaco and laid an egg in Ripleys chest. Another face hugger gets the dog in the prison. Poor doggy. That's were the Alien came from that kills almost everyone in the prison. The company comes to the prison colony to take the Alien from inside Ripley. Fearing that it'll escape she jumps into a lava pit. (incinerater). They take one prisoner. Don't know what happens to him.

Alien resurection, The company clones her and well, alot of people die. But alot live. They blow up the ship and they get to Earth on an escape pod. YAY.

In Predator 1. Only two survive.

In Predator two You can see an Alien skull. That's cool. Aside from the chick in AVP. Danny Glover is the only surviving human to see an Alien.


AVP the chick survives. this is based WAY before the first Alien movie. Either she told NO ONE. Or she died from hypothermia.




toggletoggle post by dugoxistance at Aug 22,2004 9:36pm
Silly me. I remember P2 being in the future but it was only 7 years ahead of the time it came out. Damned futuristic movies not being that in the future. Well it would've been a neat coincidence if I knew what I was talking about. That makes me like AVP even less now.



toggletoggle post by dugoxistance at Aug 22,2004 9:44pm



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 22,2004 9:54pm
Wow.



toggletoggle post by Lincoln at Aug 23,2004 12:28pm
I saw the movie this weekend....thought it was pretty good to be honest...of course not as good as the original Predator movie or Alien...but good.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 23,2004 12:30pm
dreaded robot monsters vs gooey ones

the dreads win all the time

heh



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2004 12:31pm
I think the only thing that could have made it worse would have been for charles s dutton to be in it...
oh wait...



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 12:53pm
Oh right that whole thing with bishop mad no sense eother. Why was he alive in 2004, then alive somewhere way in the future?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2004 12:54pm
he's not alive in the future.
the future bishop is a robot (hence him being the founder)



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 12:56pm
Nay, in Alien 3 the real bishop shows up at the end and explains it to Ripley.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2004 1:13pm
no, that's a robot mcgarnicle.
why would the "real" bishop go to a prison planet when a robot that looks just like him can go?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 23,2004 1:15pm edited Aug 23,2004 1:16pm
swamplorddvm said:
Nay, in Alien 3 the real bishop shows up at the end and explains it to Ripley.


nope, he's fake... didn't you see the side of his head bashed open after '75' hit's him and then get's shot? His ear was like stretched off his face and the andriod white blood was present.



toggletoggle post by Rimhole at Aug 23,2004 1:20pm
I personally loved how the predator and the human joined forces. Like... who would have thought right? "Who ever wins, we lose" What a fucking crock of explosive diahrea. Seriously.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 1:25pm
Damn it, I know what I'm talking about!!! In ALIEN3 (THREE) The HUMAN Bishop cames with the company to see Ripley IN the prison AFTER she deactivates (the droid) Bishop. Watch the movie again.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2004 1:27pm
yes, but do you see his robot blood or human blood?
neither?
right so he's a robot since you don't really know other wise BESIDES him tell you "I'm bishop blah blah'



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 23,2004 1:29pm
swamplorddvm said:
Damn it, I know what I'm talking about!!! In ALIEN3 (THREE) The HUMAN Bishop cames with the company to see Ripley IN the prison AFTER she deactivates (the droid) Bishop. Watch the movie again.


you god damn bastard, he's an andriod! SENT TO TRICK RIPLEY INTO GIVING THEM THE ALIEN INSIDE OF HER.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 1:30pm
Doesn't mean its another robot. He has no reason to lie about being human. He was the one who the Bishop droid was designed after.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 23,2004 1:30pm
so you watch the movie again, and watch when 85 hits him with the wrench or whatever it was, and then you see his EAR almost ripped off, you can see it as he screams "NOOO" as ripley jumps into the furnace.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 1:33pm
yes he was hit once. and he really wanted that Alien cause he works for the company.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 23,2004 1:39pm
OMFG, he's an andriod!!! he's not a human. look at the side of his fucking head.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 1:43pm
ugh ok. this should be on that most gay rttp vs thread btw.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2004 1:45pm
i think you guys should jello wrestle.
I also would seriously doubt that that bishop is the real bishop.
just think about it... if you had the choice, to make a bot go infront of an alien infected human or yourself, what would you do?



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 1:48pm
I think he wanted it so bad that he got abunch of dudes with guns to come with him.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 1:51pm
but i'll watch it again and see. I think I'll live if I'm wrong on this one.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 23,2004 2:25pm
I personnaly think that Bishop II is an android for two reasons (One is only in the Alien 3 Specal Edition DVD release.) Firstly when 85 hits Bishop over the head with the metal pole he seems to feel pain but when he gets up, he is in no apparent pain. He then proceeds to turn away from the gate slightly and shout in a desperate tone 'I'm not an andriod Ripley'. Secondly as Ripley is almost over the blast furnace Bishop has a semi-closeup shot(If you pause the dvd or video now as this is in the theatrical release.) Notice his ear. It is very clearly knocked severly out of place. It sticks out much more tha the other one and it looks like it is close to falling off. Now because were human, wouldn't you be in a little more pain than Bishop II is in. There i am convinced that Bishop II is just another andriod sent by the company to try and obtain the alien



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Aug 23,2004 5:56pm
I love this nerdy discussion.
Aliens rule.



toggletoggle post by Paul FOD at Aug 23,2004 7:53pm
Sucky fucking movie Im a huge alien and predator fan biggest let down. Ive been waiting for this film since i was probably 8 years old and wow that ATE SHIT.



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