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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cave In by attendmyrequiem on Jul 2,2004 3:44pm
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toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Jul 2,2004 3:44pm
I'm not sure who actually likes Cave In here, but I heard the demo that got them dropped by MCA and they're doing heavy material again! I'm so happy, but am curious as to what label they will be going to for the next album. My guesses are back to Hydrahead or Deathwish.
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toggletoggle post by moran   at Jul 2,2004 3:50pm
What do mean by heavy though? Like Beyond Hypothermia? Or heavy by their Indie rock standards?



toggletoggle post by Soloman   at Jul 2,2004 3:59pm
I was a big fan of their heavier material. Until your heart stops was a favorite of mine. But then I didn't really get into their rock albums. I heard they were playing old material at shows again, but I didn't know they were planning to record a new heavy album. How'd you get to hear the demo?



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Jul 2,2004 4:07pm
It's more like Until Your Heart stops.
It was recorded at my teacher's studio and I got to hear a bit of it from him.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 2,2004 4:31pm
um HELLO! don't they owe MCA like 10 cds?



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jul 2,2004 4:34pm
oh my god. cave in is making heavy shit again. -creams pants-
ive been waiting for this since i was 16.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 2,2004 4:46pm
when I was 16, I used to see the people in bands that had-yet-to-become cave in.
go metheun!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 2,2004 4:47pm
oh and I still have my canyon of pain tape from the state of alert-era.
"A CANYON OF PAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!"



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jul 2,2004 4:48pm
yup. 978 represent.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 2,2004 4:50pm
I was a refugee in haverhill at the ufi (or whatever it was named)
since I was a 603.

blue, did you ever see any hybernian club shows?



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jul 2,2004 4:58pm
nopers.



toggletoggle post by cdan   at Jul 2,2004 5:24pm
this could be very cool. but i kinda hate them now for becoming emo fags and denouncing all of their heavy material.



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Jul 2,2004 5:39pm
the_reverend said:
um HELLO! don't they owe MCA like 10 cds?


as i said, MCA dropped them. antenna didn't sell enough and they aren't interested in releasing cave in's new material.



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Jul 2,2004 5:46pm
cdan said:
this could be very cool. but i kinda hate them now for becoming emo fags and denouncing all of their heavy material.


the lyrics on antenna (and i'm assuming the preceding albums) were never "emo". but there are good indie rock bands if people opened up their horizons. I happen to like cave in's indie rock stuff, not as much as their old material but it's good. I also find Minus the Bear and one Cursive album to have some awesome guitar playing. unfortunately because they don't growl people won't listen and I don't agree with the attitudes of their fan base (the whole i act better than you because I can afford to buy my wardrobe from the diesel stores).



toggletoggle post by moran   at Jul 2,2004 6:07pm
Yeah, their indie stuff was really good, I just prefer the older stuff.



toggletoggle post by ninkaszi at Jul 2,2004 6:50pm
i've been at shows they played when they first started, but my ride always had to leave or didn't care....i still haven't heard a single note of their music. am i missing out?



toggletoggle post by cdan   at Jul 2,2004 8:59pm
attendmyrequiem said:
cdan said:
this could be very cool. but i kinda hate them now for becoming emo fags and denouncing all of their heavy material.


the lyrics on antenna (and i'm assuming the preceding albums) were never "emo". but there are good indie rock bands if people opened up their horizons. I happen to like cave in's indie rock stuff, not as much as their old material but it's good. I also find Minus the Bear and one Cursive album to have some awesome guitar playing. unfortunately because they don't growl people won't listen and I don't agree with the attitudes of their fan base (the whole i act better than you because I can afford to buy my wardrobe from the diesel stores).


i have no idea what you just said, but i know that anything after "until your heart stops" was gay...thus emo.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Jul 2,2004 11:10pm
ninkaszi said:
i've been at shows they played when they first started, but my ride always had to leave or didn't care....i still haven't heard a single note of their music. am i missing out?

Nope.



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jul 3,2004 12:35am
they're probably signed to deathwish because they're playing a show w/ converge and draw blood(who were just recently signed to deathwish) july 17th at the ICC



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 3,2004 2:03am
that show's at jackson man, not ICC.

I hated cave in's indie stuff. though I also hated minus the bear.
cursive on the other hand is awesome.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jul 3,2004 2:13am



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Jul 3,2004 2:21am
tbone_r said:
they're probably signed to deathwish because they're playing a show w/ converge and draw blood(who were just recently signed to deathwish) july 17th at the ICC



they haven't officially signed anywhere yet.



toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Jul 3,2004 4:12am
i read an article where the lead singer said that he got physically ill whenever he performed the heavier material. which is why he started singing...

who knows



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Jul 3,2004 7:32am
I remember when Dave Scrod was in Swivel and they had that song Tears or some shit and they opened for Death and um Gorefest back 94 or something... I'd give anything to go back in time to that show when good ol' Chuck was still alive... Anyways Scrod was incredible back then... I still got the demo somewhere... That's the thing with all ya'll hardcore fags... Ya don't hold on to anything... Earth Crisis is like cookie dough... Venom is eternal!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 3,2004 9:50am
I forget if swivel became state of alert or the other way around.
I guess they had a reunion show a few years ago.



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Jul 3,2004 1:31pm
im pretty sure swivel became state of alert.



toggletoggle post by Dave Scrod at Dec 4,2004 4:21am
Actually, it was Alert (State of Alert was Henry Rollins' pre-Black Flag band from D.C.) that later became Swivel...and props to coldnorthernvengeance for the kind words. That show...and that whole era...was a blast.



toggletoggle post by damnose   at Dec 4,2004 4:32am
whoa, this thread came out of nowhere.

Tonight's Isis show was a nice little hydrahead family reunion though. Great performance too, and while more old stuff would have been nice it was cool to hear them play just about the whole new album.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 4,2004 4:46am
whoah, I haven't seen dave scrod since the coffee place in the mid 90's in haverhill.
it was when you had the broken leg or whatever.



toggletoggle post by bringbacknh at Dec 4,2004 9:14am
dirteecrayon said:
i read an article where the lead singer said that he got physically ill whenever he performed the heavier material. which is why he started singing...

who knows


Caleb [bass-in Cave-In], was the singer in my old band [Strike 3]. He could easily front the new 'heavier' side of Cave-In; he sings from his ball bag! When we use to record, the sound techs were always impressed that he was actually making those 'vocals'. He could hack up odd white chunks as well, but it didn't seem to bother him.

Hopefully, the new shit will NOT be like Strike 3 if this is the case, or NOT even like old Cave-In. That's shit already been done, still being done, and beaten to fuckin death!!! (Strike 3 quote, 'It's time for a change!') Heavy Music, in general, has become a retarded rehashed version of old shit that everyone has already done. The 'metal-scene' needs a metal version of Nirvana to come along and knock the spiked bracelets off everyone. Still stay it's more about simplification than complication.



toggletoggle post by Dave Scrod at Dec 5,2004 6:54am
In response to the reverend: Ahhh..."the broken leg"! and the fractured wrist, broken collarbone, and broken ribs. That's what happens when your compact car collides with an 18-wheeler on the highway, kids!

In response to the latest fiber of this thread: I'd like to see Cave-in go back to doing heavier material as well, but not like the old stuff. That stuff was old even when we were doing it. Caleb has always seemed to dislike me for whatever reason but since my departure from the band, I have always felt that he should be doing vocals and not Steve, as phony British accents are a little played out.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 5,2004 12:41pm
ok



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 6,2004 8:31am
Dave: if you have any of your old bands on cdr and feel like burning any of it, I would love to have it @ my radio station to play.
the canyon of pain tape is sort of illing these days.



toggletoggle post by dirtycrayon at Dec 6,2004 10:47am
Dave Scrod said:
as phony British accents are a little played out.


haha




toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 6,2004 1:09pm
357!!!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 14,2004 11:56am
anyone going to see them in dovah tonight?



toggletoggle post by Dave Scrod at Dec 14,2004 10:50pm
i do, actually. i've got all the swivel masters, the older versions of the cave in stuff that ended up on "until your heart stops" (demo versions with different lyrics/vocals), and all the unreleased buzzov-en stuff that hydrahead was supposed to put out. if you don't want to post your address here, e-mail me at scrodzilla@yahoo.com and give me your info and i'll send you some stuff.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 18,2005 4:51pm
bringbacknh, you should get some strike 3 stuff online, ive always been interested to hear what you guys were like



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Aug 18,2005 6:43pm edited Aug 18,2005 6:43pm
the_reverend said:
oh and I still have my canyon of pain tape from the state of alert-era.
"A CANYON OF PAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!"


Swivel ruled!!!!

oops, I didn't login as me

>> DreamingInExile



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Aug 18,2005 6:44pm
yeah, that last post was me... oops



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 18,2005 6:46pm
I'm so happy that others share my youth



toggletoggle post by Hooker nli at Aug 18,2005 6:47pm
I never liked them.



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