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returntothepit >> discuss >> Abigail Williams - Genre Hopping good or bad? by arilliusbm on Jan 19,2012 3:53pm
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toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 19,2012 3:53pm edited Jan 20,2012 6:59am
Oh hi Mark and Mike.

They are playing Ralph's soon.

Opinion on them? former deathcore-band gone blackmetal.
They have a decent fanbase.. But I will always remember them as a deathcore band with a girl keyboard player.

They did a reverse Cryptopsy... and for that, I can't take them seriously. Someone prove me wrong before I get banned in 24 hours.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jan 19,2012 3:54pm
I should give these guys another chance, I remember disliking them when they first came around here.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 19,2012 3:57pm
Band fucking sucks.

And I don't like Abigail Williams either.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Jan 19,2012 4:02pm
stupid band



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Jan 19,2012 4:05pm
Their black metal stuff is listenable, but overall not a very good band. I hated the new songs they played at the Mayhem show.



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 19,2012 4:06pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]

They did a reverse Cryptopsy and for that, I can't take them seriously.

i didn't know that was the same band. weird. depending on the other bands on the show, play the show and don't be a pussy. it's not like you're playing with killswitch engage.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 19,2012 4:06pm
devildriver effect in effect



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 19,2012 4:09pm edited Jan 19,2012 4:10pm
I like the other (locals) on the bill but being the giant internet douchebag that I am, cant stand Abigail Williams only because of the style they hopped from.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 19,2012 4:17pm edited Jan 19,2012 4:20pm
i said
meh, i'd take genre hoppers who play halfway passable homage to old bm sound over trendy slip-on sneaker experimental/ambient crap any day of the week.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 19,2012 4:18pm
"like"



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 19,2012 4:22pm
also, by "halfway passable homage" i mean i heard a minute of a song that sounded kinda like old emperor. the rest of their stuff might be total garbage, no idea.



toggletoggle post by Arist nli at Jan 19,2012 4:27pm
Abigail "hey guys are we black metal yet?" Williams.

I like the new stuff regardless though



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 19,2012 4:27pm
if they're playing ralph's with other decent bands, i'll check it out. i'm sort of not caring whatsoever to actually listen to them until then.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Jan 19,2012 4:31pm
gayterriblefaggotrylameweakhomo



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 19,2012 4:35pm
When I saw them live last year they werent bad. But when I found out who it was, I pulled a u turn and laughed because being close-minded sometimes is fun.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Jan 19,2012 4:40pm
They have some decent songs. Nothing that memorable though.



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 19,2012 4:44pm
So much better faggotry than this



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Jan 19,2012 4:47pm
I had no idea they did black metal stuff. From the name alone I assumed metalcore



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 19,2012 4:49pm
they totally genre hopped. I went to see them to see the keyboardist... but got good music instead.



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toggletoggle post by amorok666 at Jan 19,2012 5:17pm
I will always think abigail Williams is fucking gay. Sorry bros.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 19,2012 5:21pm
crappy band, but will go to Ralph's. maybe in a less douchey environment they will be more tolerable.



toggletoggle post by Fuck_Logging_In at Jan 19,2012 5:21pm
Abigail Williams is a gay name fore a band. Always put them in the same category as Norma Jean.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 19,2012 5:24pm
the story behind the name is at least decent, but yeah the name itself does not grab me as stellar bwack metal.



toggletoggle post by Spaldino at Jan 19,2012 8:59pm
i'm not gonna lie... i actually really like their newest album. i also like their second album. and their first album. their debut EP was gay for the most part. they are a solid band to listen to. they are sort of riding the trend wave and are now more like post-black metal/european folk/black stuff, if that makes any sense. they are good at what they do and you can't really knock them about their actual music... its well played and well produced and all very professional.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jan 19,2012 9:05pm
I could have sworn all their stuff was "black metal" or at least a poor attempt at it...shows how much I've paid attention to them. The material I thought I remembered hearing was boring as fuck.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 19,2012 11:21pm
Yea.. This wil be realky good promotion to the locals playing it. AW will bring a crowd. Props to chris for grabbing them and hosting them. my own opinions on them don't really matter, I just think its lulz how they changed styles, or at least changed their attempt



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Jan 19,2012 11:24pm
I feel like there's something you don't appreciate about this band. Are you holding back? It feels like you are.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 19,2012 11:26pm
This band was/is/will be terrible for the foreseeable future.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jan 19,2012 11:30pm
aril IS holding back, and just wants to bully Abigail Williams IRL



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 19,2012 11:32pm
Hatchet job on abigail williams for the phoenix, I should do it.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jan 19,2012 11:33pm
I'll give it three thumbs up, ERGUGHHH!



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Jan 19,2012 11:47pm
Abigail Williams = Goatwhore.



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 12:04am
Arilgail williams



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 20,2012 1:02am
Didn't read thread but band sucks crooked cocks in Heaven



toggletoggle post by chriskar at Jan 20,2012 3:13am
playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 20,2012 9:06am
chriskar said[orig][quote]
dont care what they sound like
that's too bad dude, i know you'll play "any show anywhere" but maybe you'll get sick of playing with shit bands someday.



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 20,2012 9:07am
a fwiw, your band is a little too good for that.



toggletoggle post by gss don at Jan 20,2012 9:13am
chriskar said[orig][quote]
playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw


Total hipster statement



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 20,2012 9:23am
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
Didn't read thread but band sucks crooked cocks in Heaven
quote of the day so far



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 9:29am
can someone take the liberty to post a youtube video of their EP music, then stuff from the new album? I'm on my phone and am too lazy.
I'm curious of a side-by-side comparison



toggletoggle post by Craven Moorehead at Jan 20,2012 9:36am
Good/fast drummer.....tis all



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Jan 20,2012 9:38am
Trym played drums for them at some point.



toggletoggle post by amorok666 at Jan 20,2012 9:45am
amorok666 said[orig][quote]
I will always think abigail Williams is fucking gay. Sorry bros.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Jan 20,2012 9:50am
Why are you sorry? No one is vehemently defending them.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 20,2012 9:57am
gss%20don said[orig][quote]
chriskar said[orig][quote]
playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw


Total hipster statement


A GSS post that I agree with? It's more likely than you think.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 10:00am
LOL @ it being nearly impossible to find a youtube track from their opening EP, but it being easy to get their other stuff.

Trying to hide from their past, are they? Should have changed the name.



toggletoggle post by zz nli at Jan 20,2012 10:04am
Who fucking cares? This is why this board sucks. People complain about music way too much. This band puts on a great show. Who the fuck cares what they used to sound like..its not relevant anymore.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Jan 20,2012 10:06am
Lol at doing a song from the ep on the new album and saying revisited.



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 20,2012 10:10am
zz%20nli said[orig][quote]
This is why this board sucks. People complain about music way too much.


i'm sure they put on a decent show, and i'm sure that's the least of this board's problems.



toggletoggle post by amorok666 at Jan 20,2012 10:11am
Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot.



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 20,2012 10:11am
Lamp said[orig][quote]
gss%20don said[orig][quote]
chriskar said[orig][quote]
playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw


Total hipster statement


A GSS post that I agree with? It's more likely than you think.


betting it wasn't him.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jan 20,2012 10:13am
its least its better than Iwrestledafaggotonce's genre-hopping bullshit from last year



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Jan 20,2012 10:14am
Im surprised there's even this much discussion on this band. They're garbage. Listen to this instead



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 10:14am
chriskar said[orig][quote]
playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw


Wowww



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 10:15am
amorok666 said[orig][quote]
Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot.


Tell them this when you play with them U WONT



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 10:16am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
amorok666 said[orig][quote]
Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot.


Tell them this when you play with them U WONT


He will, i will make him



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Jan 20,2012 10:17am edited Jan 20,2012 10:17am
chriskar said[orig][quote]
playing with them in NYC, dont care what they sound like, just hope they draw


this statement bothered me so much that I had to repost a pic I made years ago just to express myself




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 10:17am
Abigail ist krieg



toggletoggle post by amorok666 at Jan 20,2012 10:20am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
amorok666 said[orig][quote]
Fuck this band. Once a deathcore faggot always a deathcore faggot.


Tell them this when you play with them U WONT


Planning on it.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 20,2012 10:22am edited Jan 20,2012 10:23am
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]


bennyhillifier



fuck, i wish we were playing with these guys instead. ah well.



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 10:23am
Chriskar, you are a flamboyant homosexual.



toggletoggle post by amorok666 at Jan 20,2012 10:26am
Mattapan



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 10:26am
Paul, i went to mattapan on thursday



toggletoggle post by Brightside at Jan 20,2012 10:29am
At least WOE isn't on this bill.



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toggletoggle post by zz nli at Jan 20,2012 10:33am
Oh wow, and now the trolling begins. Typical.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 20,2012 11:21am
is Joey Lawrence gay?



toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at Jan 20,2012 11:25am
Only gook Abigail is real.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 20,2012 11:26am
Real talk



toggletoggle post by Manowarrior at Jan 20,2012 12:59pm
If you fools just listened to actual metal, you wouldn't have any of these problems, and we wouldn't have these threads.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Jan 20,2012 1:08pm


TO



= KVLT



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 20,2012 1:15pm
WOW nice rack.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard NLI at Jan 20,2012 1:19pm
ross and i decided today that Notshaver probably actually likes this band



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 1:21pm
He does, said on FB that they reminded him of Emperor



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 20,2012 1:22pm
if you are going to wear spiked bracers, don't fold your arms unless you are going to deal with how it feels.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 1:22pm
Like I said, they put on a decent show when I saw them in PVD last year. But I had no idea it was them and cant take them seriously at all because of their history.

I saw them in 2006 at Marks showplace and it was a fucking joke.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 1:25pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
if you are going to wear spiked bracers, don't fold your arms unless you are going to deal with how it feels.


Hahaha yea, most awkward armfold ever



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 20,2012 1:34pm edited Jan 20,2012 1:34pm
AndrewBastard%20NLI said[orig][quote]
Notshaver actually LOVES this band



toggletoggle post by bitch_please at Jan 20,2012 1:35pm
This band is a joke.



toggletoggle post by nekronautloggedin at Jan 20,2012 1:52pm
I don't like Emperor just said the new stuff sounded like them.

Also, fuck you Mark- even though I just said that to you in person.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 20,2012 1:54pm
haha



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 1:55pm
nekronautloggedin said[orig][quote]
I don't like Emperor.


WUT



toggletoggle post by jark at Jan 20,2012 1:56pm
jark said[orig][quote]
WOW nice rack.
i didn't type this but yes she is a nice rack.



toggletoggle post by nekronautloggedin at Jan 20,2012 1:59pm
Controversy.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 2:00pm
nekronautloggedin said[orig][quote]
Controversy.


WUT



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jan 20,2012 2:00pm
ITT: jark on jark action



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 2:01pm
nekronautloggedin said[orig][quote]
PETCO MOTHERFUCKER


That's more like it.



toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at Jan 20,2012 2:01pm
Post '94 Emperor is donkeyballs



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 2:18pm
bobnomaamrooney said[orig][quote]
Post '94 NBA LIVE is donkeyballs



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Jan 20,2012 2:19pm
LOL at doesnt like emperor but likes A.W.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jan 20,2012 2:21pm



toggletoggle post by nekronautloggedin at Jan 20,2012 2:23pm
bobnomaamrooney said[orig][quote]
Post '94 Emperor is donkeyballs


I agree with this statement.

I do like everything up until In the Nightside Eclipse.

I don't like Abigail Williams, fuck off.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Jan 20,2012 2:24pm
AndrewBastard%20NLI said[orig][quote]
notshaver decided the second he heard them that he loves this band



toggletoggle post by HA-HA at Jan 20,2012 2:31pm
nekronautloggedin said[orig][quote]
bobnomaamrooney said[orig][quote]
Post '94 Emperor is donkeyballs


I agree with this statement.

I do like everything up until In the Nightside Eclipse.

I don't like Abigail Williams, fuck off.






toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Jan 20,2012 2:33pm
^bully aril



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 2:39pm
Anthems is good too why dint you like anthems?



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Jan 20,2012 2:40pm
because anthems doesnt sound like AW



toggletoggle post by randy_marsh at Jan 20,2012 2:43pm
I dont understand why that guy left vehemence to be in AW. They are boring dumb. Boring dumb.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 20,2012 2:49pm
I HEARD MIKE IS GONNA ASK ABIGAIL WILLIAMS TO MARRY HIM.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jan 20,2012 2:52pm
Marilyn Manson is way hotter than Abigail Williams



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 2:52pm
Bigger fan base. Candllight Records



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 20,2012 3:20pm
Abigail, don't you think i know what you've done? Abigail OOOOOOOOOOH



toggletoggle post by BSV at Jan 20,2012 3:28pm
I played nearly 50 shows on tour with AW a few years ago and have gotten to know several members of the band.

Ken knows his shit. Next to Decrepit Birth, he was the only person on the tour that could talk metal with me. He's tight with James Murphy who produces some ridiculous shit. I've never been into overproduced black metal, that's it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 20,2012 3:30pm
Josh with the knowledge NUKE.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 20,2012 3:42pm
pfft, you think any of this phases us? we opened for septic flesh dude.



toggletoggle post by Czarnobog at Jan 20,2012 3:44pm
...not to mention like eight different black twilight bands.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 20,2012 4:06pm
BSV said[orig][quote]
I've never been into overproduced black metal, that's it.


I'm trying to remember if you were there but I distinctly remember giving my take on overproduced black metal to Revocanthony outside a show at the Somerville Elks as "A disembodied hand like Thing from the Addam's Family with a frilly lace sleeve playing a keyboard, then later finger banging pudgy goth groupie chicks with the same keyboard dexterity"



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 20,2012 4:07pm
that's a beautiful description



toggletoggle post by frankovhell at Jan 20,2012 4:13pm
black twilight LA hipsters are just as gay as AW. Overhyped pretentious. I saw AW with Rotting Christ a year or so ago and like Aril didnt realize it was them. They were decent. I also saw them at Marks then and it was horrid. I made fun of them the entire time.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 20,2012 4:19pm
frankovhell said[orig][quote]
black twilight LA hipsters are just as gay as AW.


YUP



toggletoggle post by Chriskar at Jan 20,2012 6:38pm
Just trying to figure out which v neck to wear to
The show. Black or more black? Thoughts?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 20,2012 6:39pm
BobNOMAAMRooney said[orig][quote]
BSV said[orig][quote]
I've never been into overproduced black metal, that's it.


I'm trying to remember if you were there but I distinctly remember giving my take on overproduced black metal to Revocanthony outside a show at the Somerville Elks as "A disembodied hand like Thing from the Addam's Family with a frilly lace sleeve playing a keyboard, then later finger banging pudgy goth groupie chicks with the same keyboard dexterity"


And this is still the best thing ever.



toggletoggle post by Niggerless Cage at Jan 20,2012 8:40pm
Abigail Williams professional opening band! of every fucking metal tour bill!



toggletoggle post by nekronautloggedin at Jan 20,2012 8:50pm
Niggerless%20Cage said[orig][quote]
Abigail Williams professional opening band! of every fucking metal tour bill!


..don't forget Goatwhore!



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Jan 20,2012 9:04pm
Old News!
KEVORD said[orig][quote]
Abigail Williams = Goatwhore.



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Jan 21,2012 3:19am
zz%20nli said[orig][quote]
Who the fuck cares what they used to sound like..its not relevant anymore.


OHAI PAUL MASVIDAL



toggletoggle post by CurlyRed at Jan 21,2012 8:10am
Salem witch trials are interesting but the band is lame.



toggletoggle post by Spencer M. Clark at Jan 21,2012 8:46am
The new stuff ia incredible. Fuck the haters.



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