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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cynic - Worcester Palladium Monday November 7 by arilliusbm on Oct 27,2011 4:16pm
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toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:16pm edited Oct 28,2011 1:11am
Just heard about this. Dont know about the other bands but I wouldnt mind seeing Fagnic again



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:17pm
Oops not posted as show list and not on events. Too lazy



toggletoggle post by ark at Oct 27,2011 4:17pm
Fagnic huh.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:20pm
Word of the day. I love Cynic, and Paul is a total fag now. Doesnt matter though. Awesome musician



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 4:27pm
Cynic sucks! No one has ever given me a good reason to like them other than the fact listeners think they're suddenly smarter for listening to them, like Mozart gives you A's on exams, yeah guy.
BORING.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Oct 27,2011 4:28pm edited Oct 27,2011 4:28pm
lol. typical aril post:

___ sucks, but ____ is pretty cool guy though



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 4:34pm
typical Cynic fan, "OH MAN THIS BAND IS AWESOME, THEY USED TO HAVE A DEATH METAL DEMO BUT THEN PUSSIED OUT AND MAKE SAFE PSUEDO F-ZERO METAL NOW, IT'S AMAZING STUFF. LISTENING TO IT MAKES YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT."



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 27,2011 4:36pm
i like parts of their first album. the more recent one bored the fuck out of me. would go see them for free.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:36pm
never said any of that



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 27,2011 4:42pm
Demos are great. Everything after can fuck right off. Especially those twink vocoder vocals



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:45pm
Ive always loved their demos abd focus. I love Pauls guitar style and dont feel smarter listening to it. Newer Cynic is mostly a disappointment to me, but still listenable.

Ive always preferred Athiest to Cynic, as far as jazzy/fusiony/florida bands go, albiet different styles



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 4:49pm
Cynic is a gateway band of gay that leads towards Dream Theater. I mean, you can open that door and go down that road, if you're a total faggot and whatnot. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't try so hard to appeal to metalheads and so many didn't buy into it. Followers are basically in a league with crabcore, "WHAT MAN, IT'S AWESOME STUFF, CATCHY AS HELL. WHY DON'T YOU BE A LITTLE MORE OPEN MINDED, GAWD".
Fuck off. Neil Young's Trans is more brutal than Cynic.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Oct 27,2011 4:50pm
something tells me josh doesnt like cynic, not sure what.


if i can pull off all the gas for this and exhumed the night, im there.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Oct 27,2011 4:50pm
BSV said[orig][quote]
PSUEDO F-ZERO METAL



starting a band like this


fav game on SNES.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:52pm
Lol. Good game



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Oct 27,2011 4:53pm
Is Paul really gay? I know he's a little flamboyant when he talks but that doesn't make him gay



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:55pm
Hahaha I know what youre saying Josh.. I know people exactly like that.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 4:56pm
blue said[orig][quote]
something tells me josh doesnt like cynic, not sure what.


because it's arrogant music full of crappy hooks and licks. the bass playing is the only redeemable aspect and for the most part it's overdone, pretentious and total unmemorable. been hating on this band for years! can't stop. won't stop.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 4:57pm
Josh, do you like gordian knot at least?



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 5:00pm
never heard them. what should I start with?



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 27,2011 5:00pm
Only balloon knot is real



toggletoggle post by blue  at Oct 27,2011 5:02pm
jawshy, i know why you dont like cynic. tis a joke. your explanation however is how i feel about 99% of tool & DT fans.



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Oct 27,2011 5:02pm
^ hahaha

I'm going to this. I'm pretty bored with Cynic's new stuff but the band 3 is awesome and they are the real reason to go as far as I'm concerned.

Also RE Cynic as a gateway to DT, I think it's the other way around. DT fans tend to discover Cynic on their way up/out.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 5:02pm
I'd rather listen to electronic music that has feeling and a purpose.
When Cynic comes out and admits that the vocoder was just a way to get through to their brain dead mute fans, I'll respect them. Otherwise, file them under RETARDED BANDS WHO ARE NOT NEIL YOUNG.

bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Oct 27,2011 5:03pm edited Oct 27,2011 5:04pm
BSV said[orig][quote]
When Cynic comes out and admits that the vocoder was just a way to get through to their brain dead mute fans, I'll respect them.


I thought it was known that the vocoder was a result of Paul blowing out his voice because he had never attempted death metal vox before recording the album. Not a true story?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 27,2011 5:09pm
Neil Young > most metal

Gordian Knot is Sean Malone's (Cynic bass) instrumental project that has a bunch of guest musicians. Bill Bruford of King Crimson fame drummed on the 2nd album. It's chill out music, nothing mind blowing.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 27,2011 5:16pm
blue said[orig][quote]
jawshy, i know why you dont like cynic. tis a joke. your explanation however is how i feel about 99% of tool fans.


THIS THIS AND MORE THIS.


and yes i agree with Josh, Cynic is a borefest.



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Oct 27,2011 10:18pm
I've been told some of my solos remind people of F-Zero.



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Oct 27,2011 10:19pm
But yeah, I also found Cynic after Dream Theater, I'm pretty sure.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 27,2011 11:12pm
I'VE BEEN TOLD SOME OF MY FUCKS REMIND BROADS OF WILD GOOSE GETTING IT DONE.



toggletoggle post by NEIL YOUNG at Oct 28,2011 3:44am

bennyhillifier


I LOVE CYNIC! AND COCK!!!





bennyhillifier





toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Oct 28,2011 4:19am
I had never listened to this band before now and just looked up some stuff from Focus, this seriously sounds like shit they would play on the Weather Channel.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Oct 28,2011 4:23am
The first song I listened to sounded cool, but it was also instrumental. It didn't sound like metal to me so I didn't think of it as such. But what the ass is with these vocals? Is this the origin of all the autotuned crap out there today? The whole album should have stayed instrumental.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 30,2011 10:30pm
This is UPSTAIRS, the other bands are
3
Scale the Summit.




toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Oct 30,2011 10:35pm
This shits wack. Decibel probably has a boner over this tour.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Oct 30,2011 11:01pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
This is UPSTAIRS, the other bands are
3
Scale the Summit.


El oh fucking Elle. Further reason to avoid that city one more night.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 30,2011 11:52pm
3 is sick



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 31,2011 8:47am
I will admit this though....Atheist was such a disappointment live at MDF a few years ago. The only way Cynic could be better is if they smoke Atheist in playing live department.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Oct 31,2011 9:00am
Last time I saw Cynic they were ridiculously on point, note for note.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 31,2011 9:03am
At Harpers Ferry? They didnt miss a note. Then again, they had those Dutch guys in the band. Different lineup now.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 31,2011 9:06am
Atheist was a disappointment @ MDF. Cynic at harpers was awesome.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Oct 31,2011 9:08am edited Oct 31,2011 9:10am
That post was me (Blue). I'm logged in, must be a conspiracy


Edit: now it shows up. Masvidal and Reinert had no problem keeping up with the new guys.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 31,2011 9:10am
In fact, what is the lineup now? I havent even heard the new stuff thats posted above, either.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 31,2011 9:46am
Brandon Griffin - (live) bass (2011-present)
Max Phelps - (live) guitar, vocals (2011-present)


Bass player is former Faceless bassist



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 31,2011 9:49am
oh shit Brandon is with them now? used to warm up on chromatic scales with him. csb.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 31,2011 9:51am
Will that sway you to come? haha



toggletoggle post by BSV at Oct 31,2011 9:56am
i only go to palladium shows I'm guestlisted. unless it's Krisiun.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 31,2011 10:00am
Krisiuns new stuff sounded decent. Nothing innovative or diffetent, but I bet itll slay live. Haven't seen them in a while. one of my favorite live bands.



toggletoggle post by NEIL YOUNG at Oct 31,2011 12:44pm
I, NEIL YOUNG, WILL BE THERE!!! My fat hippy ass could use the yoga!

New stuff is amazing. Like angels fucking dirty diapers, with chanty hippy shit for choruses. The death metal is a lie, Cynic is teh yogi rock! Get in shape with gay sex, yoga, and the occasional Holdsworthy solo. It's like the 60's for me all over again, but with no girls at the concerts this time.








toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 31,2011 12:47pm
monday show?!?
FU!!!



toggletoggle post by mikefrommaine at Oct 31,2011 10:19pm
All three of these bands are fucking amazing. I have class Monday nights. I am fucking tired of these sweet shows during the week lately that I can't go to.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Oct 31,2011 11:34pm
aril's ravioli demoman skills will be attending this.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 31,2011 11:51pm
are you?



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Nov 1,2011 1:03am
yea you gowta problem wit dat!?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 1,2011 6:54am edited Nov 1,2011 6:55am
Meet me and I'll buy you a beer or two for harrassing you about rehab lulz



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 10:20am
Tonight



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Nov 7,2011 10:24am
what revy said.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 7,2011 10:25am
why are there so many good metal shows at the palladium this week. NEEDS MOAR MONEYS



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 10:29am
if its not sold out and you want in, I can grab ticket



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 7,2011 10:32am
thanks but i gotta save my dough for Exhumed tomorrow.



toggletoggle post by Blessed_Offal at Nov 7,2011 10:34am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I wouldnt mind seeing Cyndick again



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Nov 7,2011 10:36am
3 is great, but I just don't know if they're drive-to-Worcester-for-them-opening great. I wouldn't think twice about going but I just went there yesterday and will be back again tomorrow.



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Nov 7,2011 2:01pm
I'm kinda tempted to go now that I actually have more money. May turn this into a 6-nights-in-Worcester week.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 2:05pm
i_am_lazy said[orig][quote]
I'm kinda tempted to go now that I actually have more money. May turn this into a 6-nights-in-Worcester week.


Sounds familiar



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Nov 7,2011 2:15pm



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 7,2011 2:20pm
thats... i dont know that is.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Nov 7,2011 4:27pm
Not now, not neva



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 7,2011 4:51pm
buttdarts unite!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 4:55pm
offer still stands to smash prognerd faces



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Nov 7,2011 7:47pm edited Nov 7,2011 7:47pm
Fuck, car got towed. No prog metal for me tonight. No gore metal tomorrow either :( urrrghhhh. At least I made it to Mayhem.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 9:14pm
that sucks man. Missed scale the summit, 3 is talented but I'm bored thus far. trolled them and yelled smooth criminal at them because the vocals sound like that shitty alien ant farm band



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 10:52pm
I_am_not_me ben just won a gold IRL troll medal of the year.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Nov 7,2011 11:02pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
that sucks man. Missed scale the summit, 3 is talented but I'm bored thus far. trolled them and yelled smooth criminal at them because the vocals sound like that shitty alien ant farm band


They sing about lizard people so you should pay attention



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 7,2011 11:51pm
no thanks. good music, vocals were meh.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Nov 8,2011 12:18am
If you missed Scale the Summit you didn't miss anything. Not even worth the download.



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Nov 8,2011 12:24am
Scale the Summit is decent...Chris Letchford is a ridiculous guitarist. Too bad you couldn't fucking hear him for the majority of the set.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 8,2011 7:16am
Venue: 3/10 Let' face it, the Palladium sucks. It was good at one point, but that was aeons ago. The Palladium upstairs is absolute bullshit; the vision sucks, the sound sucks, the beer sucks, and the place is delapidated now. Not to mention they blocked off the portion of the balcony closest to the stage, WITH NO EXPLANATION.

Atmosphere: 6/10 Cynic had a fog machine, some floor lighting, and a back drop with a repeating image that fluctuated. It seemed nice and cool to look at, but again: the Palladium hinders the atmosphere simply because the place sucks now.

Crowd: 2/10 Why rate or even pay attention to the crowd you say? Well, to me, it also adds to the feeling of the show. This crowd was full of duck duck goosers, 12 year old girls, hipsters, and normal looking average schmoes that looked like they were there because they were bored. You could tell that 75% of the crowd didn't know much about Focus, and only cared about Traced In Air and its subsequent releases.

Main Event: 6/10. Cynic is a really tight band, both anally and musically. Paul and Sean never mess up on their instruments, so it adds to the experience. That being said, I think last year's show blew this out of the water. The newer lineup was decent, but I thinked the Exivious guys were a little tighter, and had better stage presence. The bass was turned too low at times, and second guitar was barely audible at times. Regardless, the band was still very tight-sounding and played some tracks off of Focus. It was nice to hear Textures, Veil of Maya, and How Could I. But let me digress a bit: the new stuff.is BORING live. The first track they played was decent, but the other new tracks lacked any emotion, and just didn't do much for me. Granted, I'm a guy that also thinks Traced in Air falls flat towards the end and has fillers, but this new stuff was somewhat boring. All in all, Cynic put on a decent show.
Ben Durgin deserves a gold medal for yelling at Paul to play an old demo song... To which Paul responded: "That is very old, and irrelevant," or something along those lines.
Irrelevancy is something that seems normal to me with my interest in Cynic. I can only take so much of their new style before it begins to bore me. The show was good, but nothing to write home about.
Overall: 5/10



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Nov 8,2011 7:19am
sounds like this show was worth it...



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 8,2011 7:35am
for me to poop on!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 8,2011 3:46pm
HeavensJail, was that you?



toggletoggle post by HeavensJail_nli at Nov 8,2011 3:52pm
wedged by the corner of the bar, wearing a Viral Load shirt under a loser yuppie fleece? yes.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Nov 8,2011 3:56pm
was going to say. You looked naked without the epic vest.



toggletoggle post by hlrie at Nov 8,2011 5:56pm
That blocked off balcony is for photos, or at least that's what I was told and where I had to shoot the Mayhem show from. But they should at least take down that poster so fans can see through the railing.



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