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returntothepit >> discuss >> [Working out] thread of death by the_reverend on Jun 25,2010 2:31pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 25,2010 2:31pm
I'm curious if anyone lifting out there had the feeling like shin splints but in there forearms. over the last week 1/2, I added 20lbs and then another 20lbs to the non-straight curl bar and 20lbs to the reverse non-straight curl bar. now my forearms when I put down the weights, they kill.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jun 25,2010 2:35pm
In B4 Martins know-it-all post.

Sounds like tendonitis, my man. I started getting tendonitis from rows and pull downs, started wearing wrist-wraps and all was better. I would recommend just going easier on the weight -- you can increase, but not so drastically. You (like me) are an old fart and heavy weight hurts. I have been lifting lighter lately with higher reps -- still a good workout, but not so hurty.

Oh, and start eating some meat products, hippy.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Jun 25,2010 2:41pm
it means you're doing it wrong and soon they're going to snap like dry spaghetti



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 25,2010 2:47pm
I've had the same issue when doing any bicep curling motion, especially with the ez-bar. Mine isn't as intense but probably will be if I keep it up.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 25,2010 2:47pm
I'll step back on the weight from strong woman back to pussy for now.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 25,2010 2:53pm edited Jun 25,2010 2:53pm
less weight moar reps/sets



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 25,2010 3:10pm
I'm going to rape my back today on the air rower today. The only thing that will actually burn out my back is like 30 minutes of that or doing like 100 wide grip pull-ups, and well, I can't do that many.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jun 25,2010 3:47pm
Air rower? If you are getting raped by an air rower, you probably have it coming. Stick with real weights, please. For me.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 25,2010 5:11pm
the first time I felt this pain in my arms was swinging and throwing bags of leaves at the dump.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 25,2010 5:13pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]
Air rower? If you are getting raped by an air rower, you probably have it coming. Stick with real weights, please. For me.


Doing my regular workout with the Air Rower has my back feeling pretty dead. It may be gay but I approve.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jun 29,2010 1:18pm
I just added pull-ups and chin-ups to my routine; my cloits and gloits are fucking pissed at me.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jun 29,2010 1:37pm edited Jun 29,2010 1:40pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]
In B4 Martins know-it-all post.

...

Oh, and start eating some meat products, hippy.


Could be tendonitis but I would be more inclined to say it's an example of Wolff's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolff's_law ) where a bone will react to whatever pressure you put on it. There are like micro-fractures in the bone and they heal back stronger than they were before. When I started kettlebell, my forearms hurt like hell for a few weeks but that went away with time.
If it really bothers you, take it easy and you should be okay.

And yeah, eat meat.



toggletoggle post by sir coughsalot at Jun 29,2010 2:11pm
stretch. stretch everything slowly for more than 15 sec before and after you workout and whenever it hurts during the day. and yes REAL protein.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 29,2010 2:34pm
someone wants their dick sucked. I want drew to post a link to that book he was talking about... max power or something like that.



toggletoggle post by GregDbass  at Jun 29,2010 2:36pm
It's the muscle in your forearms growing away from the bone. It happens to a lot of people who work out. I had it for a while (a week or two) then it goes away.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jun 29,2010 2:43pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
someone wants their dick sucked. I want drew to post a link to that book he was talking about... max power or something like that.

there's 3 ways of doing things... The right way, the wrong way, and the max power way.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 29,2010 2:50pm
which is the wrong way...but faster!



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Jun 29,2010 2:58pm
hunt grizzly bears with a club or gtfo



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 29,2010 3:41pm
Anyone vegetarian who works out? I'm making the switch come August and have to figure out what I'm going to do because about half of my protein intake is meat based. I already eat a lot of dairy products and peanut butter based things. I'll probably start drinking a protein shake every day as opposed to just after lifting. Any advice other than eat meat?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 29,2010 3:46pm
I eat a shit ton of tofu, beans, eggs, cheese, and almond/soy milk.

Also, I highly recommend that you take creatine. There are a lot of studies out there with veggies and creatine.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Jun 29,2010 3:46pm
cum-based supplements?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 29,2010 3:47pm
fuck yeah!



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jun 29,2010 3:54pm
Archaeon said[orig][quote]
Anyone vegetarian who works out? I'm making the switch come August and have to figure out what I'm going to do because about half of my protein intake is meat based. I already eat a lot of dairy products and peanut butter based things. I'll probably start drinking a protein shake every day as opposed to just after lifting. Any advice other than eat meat?


If I bought you a book, would you read it?



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 29,2010 4:00pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]

Also, I highly recommend that you take creatine. There are a lot of studies out there with veggies and creatine.


I take creatine every couple months, Might start taking it more regularly once I go veggie.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 29,2010 4:01pm
Martins said[orig][quote]

If I bought you a book, would you read it?


I guess but it wouldn't change my mind so you'd be wasting your money broooo.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 29,2010 4:07pm
I find that after a couple days of creatine, I'm not bigger or anything, I juse recover faster during/after a work out.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 29,2010 4:15pm
whats the best way to loose a gut? i'm gonna try not drinking beer for a month in addition to my regular workouts but are their any other exercises that are good specifically for this kind of weight loss?



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jun 29,2010 4:28pm
Cardio



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 29,2010 4:29pm
swallow.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 29,2010 4:30pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I find that after a couple days of creatine, I'm not bigger or anything, I juse recover faster during/after a work out.


It depends on how you're taking it, I figure you don't "load" so it take about 2 weeks to be fully bloated from creatine when taking 5g a day. The first time I took it I could definitely tell a difference in the size of my biceps and I was able to get way more pumps and recover way faster.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jun 29,2010 4:30pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
whats the best way to loose a gut? i'm gonna try not drinking beer for a month in addition to my regular workouts but are their any other exercises that are good specifically for this kind of weight loss?


Diet and Cardio.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 29,2010 4:32pm
I didn't notice any size different, but I'm not a faggot looking at my assneck in the shower. I just noticed I recovered faster.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jul 7,2010 9:06pm
How are your wrists doing? I'm taking a week off from lifting because mine were hurting me so bad after I lifted Back/Biceps on Saturday. This sucks.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Jul 7,2010 9:41pm
The naked eight-legged dude in the Soloflex commercial would be proud of all of you.



toggletoggle post by t2daeek  at Jul 7,2010 9:52pm
Archaeon said[orig][quote]
Anyone vegetarian who works out? I'm making the switch come August and have to figure out what I'm going to do because about half of my protein intake is meat based. I already eat a lot of dairy products and peanut butter based things. I'll probably start drinking a protein shake every day as opposed to just after lifting. Any advice other than eat meat?

around the time hive smasher was doing our first cd, dan and justin were both doing body building and living vegan.
i really don't consider it to be a lifestyle that you can really keep and live a good full life. you work your body to hard and tax it for nutrients that you don't actually put into your body. they were both pretty heavy into it though. i know justin will talk to you for hours about it if you talk to him. we don't give him the attention that he doesn't get from his wife.



toggletoggle post by t2daeek  at Jul 7,2010 10:07pm
Archaeon said[orig][quote]
Anyone vegetarian who works out? I'm making the switch come August and have to figure out what I'm going to do because about half of my protein intake is meat based. I already eat a lot of dairy products and peanut butter based things. I'll probably start drinking a protein shake every day as opposed to just after lifting. Any advice other than eat meat?

around the time hive smasher was doing our first cd, dan and justin were both doing body building and living vegan.
i really don't consider it to be a lifestyle that you can really keep and live a good full life. you work your body to hard and tax it for nutrients that you don't actually put into your body. they were both pretty heavy into it though. i know justin will talk to you for hours about it if you talk to him. we don't give him the attention that he doesn't get from his wife.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 7,2010 10:42pm
Archaeon said[orig][quote]
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
whats the best way to loose a gut? i'm gonna try not drinking beer for a month in addition to my regular workouts but are their any other exercises that are good specifically for this kind of weight loss?


Diet and Cardio.


Had to post in here eventually.

Grant's right on the mark with diet (as long as it's the right one) but exercise is NOT the way to lose weight.
A lot of people think that if you just use more calories than you consume, you will lose weight and yes, that's right... to a point. What's happening is your body thinking you are literally starving and you generally won't feel very good (your body will eat into your muscle, you'll feel hungry all the time, can cause depression, throw off hormone levels, etc). The way I lost 80lbs in 8 months is by training the body to burn fat for fuel instead of carbohydrates. Once your body feels comfortable doing that, it dips into your fat stores for energy between meals (which shouldn't be that often anyway - intermittent fasting, look it up if you're interested). Blah blah blah not showing off like some might think, I'm just trying to help and share what I've learned.

I'm putting myself out there if anybody wants more information. PM me or something.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 7,2010 10:52pm



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 7,2010 10:54pm
Archaeon said[orig][quote]
How are your wrists doing? I'm taking a week off from lifting because mine were hurting me so bad after I lifted Back/Biceps on Saturday. This sucks.
I took a week and a 1/2 off. Went back today. I tried to see if doing less weights did it. I also made sure to keep my wrists straight, but with the bar I've been using it locks your wrists straight. Anyhow, it's not wrists. It feels like the center of the bone in the front of my forearms are going to snap. When I put the weights down, it hurts for a second and then stops.

Anyhow, dips hurt a little, but only when coming off the bar. Also, when I throw a ball hard to the puppies, it also twinges in the middle of my arm.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 7,2010 10:56pm
martins want to kiss?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 7,2010 11:03pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I also made sure to keep my wrists straight


Dude, Id hate to break it to you, but I think they're naturally like that and there's nothing you can do about it.

the_reverend said[orig][quote]
martins want to kiss?


I rest my case.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 7,2010 11:10pm
rabble rabble parah sailin.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 8,2010 10:52am
ok, so I googled and this person
http://ask.metafilter.com/47555/Whats-up-with-my-forearm
asks the exact question and describes the exact pain... but the answers there are all over the place just like in this thread.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jul 8,2010 11:01am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 8,2010 11:06am
I've been taking the Cell-tech stuff off and on like you original suggested. I found that there are 2 different cell-techs.
"regular"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011G0N72/ref=oss_product
and the "pro" stuff
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VLK5R4/ref=oss_product

the pro-series seemed to work faster.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Jul 8,2010 11:08am



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jul 8,2010 11:28am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I've been taking the Cell-tech stuff off and on like you original suggested. I found that there are 2 different cell-techs.
"regular"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011G0N72/ref=oss_product
and the "pro" stuff
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VLK5R4/ref=oss_product

the pro-series seemed to work faster.


Someone else must have suggested that -- I haven't taken powdered creatine in years. The liquid stuff is better because you only have to take a little bit rather than mixing it with water and drinking a big, gross concoction. The liquid also hits you faster and has better results and not as apt to give you the shits.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 8,2010 11:51am
well, it was years ago. who ever suggested it said to only take 1 scoop instead of the 2 they suggest.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jul 8,2010 10:48pm
Take whey and creatine before you work out, and whey about 30 minutes after. The whey helps the muscle build up faster and stronger. Creatine is just good for giving you that extra boost to lift more than normally. Oh, and as said in this thread, eat some meat you tree huggers.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jul 9,2010 1:02am
Aaron, I did more research on the forearm stuff. Most people are saying to stop bar curls and stick to pullups/dumbell curls (no preacher) while at the same time working to make your grip/forearm muscles stronger. Also, When lifting anything with the knuckle down grip, you should gradually ease your grip, not just pull away quickly because thats when the most irritation comes.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 14,2010 8:35am
all good advice.

this morning, i wanted to do my last day on the old work out routine. i got sweatier and sweatier and didnt feel well. felt like puking. so i went into the bathroom, puked up water, felt great and went back for the last 30 minutes of my work out. because i puked, i didnt have time for swimming.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jul 14,2010 12:35pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I've been taking the Cell-tech stuff off and on like you original suggested. I found that there are 2 different cell-techs.
"regular"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011G0N72/ref=oss_product
and the "pro" stuff
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VLK5R4/ref=oss_product

the pro-series seemed to work faster.


fuck muscletech products. Do some research and you can get quality products from other companies. Muscletech is all about advertising and showing you that you can end up like jay cutler or dexter jackson if you use their products. Those guys don't come cheap, and the prices of their products certainly reflect that. I use a lot of optimum nutrition products. Good quality company and no bs fillers. For creatine, I use sci-fit kre-alkalyn. It's a newer product but I'm liking it so far and it's in pill form and there is no "loading" phase.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Jul 14,2010 12:41pm
Load



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jul 14,2010 9:35pm
For Whey or Creatine, Six Star Muscle makes a decent product, although I prefer the muscletech stuff myself.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jul 28,2010 11:58am
My forearms are more or less better. I took almost three weeks off (was suppose to be 2 but then i was sick last week). If I do standing bar curls on a medium weight and higher rep I'm fine. I did a lot of hammer curls and pull ups too. no pain yet.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 28,2010 12:19pm
I'm pain free too, but I've been taking it easy.



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