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returntothepit >> discuss >> Animals As Leaders by SteveSummoned on Oct 15,2009 12:14pm
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toggletoggle post by SteveSummoned   at Oct 15,2009 12:14pm edited Oct 15,2009 12:14pm
Has anyone heard this band yet? They're fucking incredible, I've been jamming out to them like crazy lately. If you haven't heard of them I recommend just downloading the album.

http://maggotzer.blogspot.com/2009/04/anim...-as-leaders-animals-as-leaders.html



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 15,2009 12:15pm
One of the better up-and-coming tech bands from the east coast.

Someone made a thread about trying out for them a few weeks ago.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 15,2009 12:16pm
I tried listening to them again since that thread and I feel like for every really cool part there's two or three parts of trying-to-be-tasteful-but-failing tech nonsense.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 15,2009 12:18pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
One of the better up-and-coming tech bands from the east coast.

Someone made a thread about trying out for them a few weeks ago.


i think it was one of the dudes from pathogenic. i might be mistaken.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 15,2009 12:20pm
any negative comment towards this band is racist.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 15,2009 12:22pm
racits!!!



toggletoggle post by SteveSummoned   at Oct 15,2009 12:24pm



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Oct 15,2009 12:52pm
I'm confused. All this time I thought Bulb was in Animals as Leaders too, not just Tosin Abasi. (He's a fucking ridiculous guitarist too, though.)



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 15,2009 12:55pm
Bulb was at some point.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Oct 15,2009 1:55pm
Martins said[orig][quote]
Bulb was at some point.


Okay, so I'm not crazy.



toggletoggle post by NLI at Oct 15,2009 2:44pm



toggletoggle post by death. at Oct 15,2009 7:11pm
great video, can't get into the band



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Oct 15,2009 7:19pm
I have AAL on my iPod, but I have so much shit on there I haven't listened to yet, so I haven't gotten around to it



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jun 1,2010 3:09pm
finally got around to listening to this band, and I'm liking it. Abasi used to be in Reflux. I can definitely hear Reflux riffs in this. Good score.



toggletoggle post by The_Rooster  at Jun 1,2010 3:19pm
crap.



toggletoggle post by burnsy at Jun 1,2010 3:31pm
Pretty good stuff. For this type of stuff, I prefer Blotted Science.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jun 1,2010 7:51pm
AAL is the shit



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 12:15am
cant believe its taken me this long to check this shit out. fuckin wowzers.



toggletoggle post by Woah!_Shut_It_Down!  at Sep 14,2010 12:37am edited Sep 14,2010 12:38am
Briefly met Tosin outside the Palladium at SS. Seemed a pretty chill fellow.




toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at Sep 14,2010 1:10am
he has two good songs. behaving badly and tempting time are excellent. rest is meh.



toggletoggle post by Woah!_Shut_It_Down!  at Sep 14,2010 1:24am
Obviously haven't heard Inamorta. That song's totally tits.



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at Sep 14,2010 3:14am
everything else in this genre sucks. except those two songs and because they don't have vocals. if they had vocals i would not even bother listening.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 14,2010 9:14am
Randy_Marsh said[orig][quote]
everything else in this genre sucks. except those two songs and because they don't have vocals. if they had vocals i would not even bother listening.


This whole band doesn't have vocals.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 9:28am
it's my favorite cynic textures black metal band



toggletoggle post by Elihhcb at Sep 14,2010 10:27am
Meedle meedle dun meedle dun dun black metal



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:15am
Can't get into these guys, and y'all know this is definitely my style. The guitarist irks the shit outta me. Shirts and ties in a metal band, 8 string guitar, everything he does just seems like one big unjustified GIMMICK.

I agree with the earlier post - Blotted Science (or even Canvas Solaris' new album) is way better than this band.

And since someone brought up Bulb, the periphery album fucking SUCKS. Who knew that it just takes one faggot vocalist to ruin an otherwise amazing batch of songs? Oh, well I guess Pillory knew that when they hired me.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 11:19am
i love when people dislike music because of the way the performers look. that makes lots of sense.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:21am edited Sep 14,2010 11:22am
I hated Blues Traveller because he was fat.
Blues Traveller was only good when he was skinny.
SM: 10



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:24am
I think this band is great, although the TECH style without vocals just feels like it's missing some of the energy and anger i like in my metal.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 11:26am
i havent heard enough music to really defend this band in any way. i'll have to pick up a cd and make a judgement after listening to it. theres really only a couple bands/musicians that i like for this style.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:28am
I prefer Exivious over this band



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:28am
you prefer anal fisting to a good time. OH SNAP



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:33am
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
i love when people dislike music because of the way the performers look. that makes lots of sense.


Your comprehension is sad, man. I said he's full of gimmicks, including the way he looks. I base music on music, not appearances.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 11:34am
ouch



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:35am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I prefer Exivious over this band


I put the Exivious album into heavy rotation. There's a LOT of great guitar playing on there, but no matter how many times I keep listening to it I still get the impression of background music. The songwriting is just not as potent as Cynic, yet because it sounds so similar it's obviously going to keep getting compared to them.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 11:46am
Yea man. They're missing that artistic touch.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 11:53am
And Sean Reinert



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 12:07pm
ArrowHeadNLI said[orig][quote]
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
i love when people dislike music because of the way the performers look. that makes lots of sense.


Your comprehension is sad, man. I said he's full of gimmicks, including the way he looks. I base music on music, not appearances.


how is wearing a shirt and tie a gimmick? thats probably just what the dude wants to wear. and if that is the case like you said... i dont see how its any different than black metal bands wearing corpse paint and bulletbelts etc. just because my opinion does not agree with yours does not mean i lack comprehension.



toggletoggle post by HAIL AND KILL at Sep 14,2010 12:09pm
It's a gimmick because he's black. Duh.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Sep 14,2010 12:11pm
Akercocke?



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 12:14pm edited Sep 14,2010 12:15pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]


how is wearing a shirt and tie a gimmick?


You really need to ask that? How many other metal musicians dress that way? Is he unique, and free spirited, or is he trying to stand out. If it's the latter, it's a gimmick.

We disagree, and that's fine, but you're not going to invalidate my opinion of the band and I clearly did not judge them on appearances as you are trying to imply. I heard the band and album long before I ever saw the guy, and as I already stated found the 9 strings unnecessary and gimmicky.

Why does my opinion hurt you so?



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 12:26pm edited Sep 14,2010 12:27pm
i'm not hurt lol. i'm just responding on the basis of the two only two specfic examples you listed (shirt and tie and 8 string guitar). i merely thought your basis for disliking the band was based solely on these things and not the actual music. of course we are both entitled to our own opinions i just did not understand yours. thank you for clarifying.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHeadNLI at Sep 14,2010 12:29pm
As I wrote, those are examples of why the guitarist IRKS ME. Not why I dislike the band. Two separate thoughts. Paul Masvidal IRKS me as well, with his tight surfer shirts and faggy yoga ways, yet Cynic is currently my favorite band. See?



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 12:31pm
like i said.. thank you for clarifying.



toggletoggle post by boxxy at Sep 14,2010 12:47pm
crystal.



toggletoggle post by kilgore at Sep 14,2010 1:27pm edited Sep 14,2010 1:27pm
ArrowHeadNLI said[orig][quote]


And since someone brought up Bulb, the periphery album fucking SUCKS. Who knew that it just takes one faggot vocalist to ruin an otherwise amazing batch of songs?


nullhttps://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5720990/Periphery_%5BInstrumental_Version%5D

Periphery's album with out the shit vocals



toggletoggle post by Woah!_Shut_It_Down!  at Sep 14,2010 2:03pm
On the topic of Paul Masvidal and his half-moon-metal

Cynic > Portal > Exivious

and Portal ain't even Metal. Exivious is best one song at a time.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 14,2010 3:36pm
just went to go buy one of their albums but twas sold out. picked up a russian circles cd instead. pretty neat so far.



toggletoggle post by Randy_Marsh at Sep 14,2010 5:35pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
Randy_Marsh said[orig][quote]
everything else in this genre sucks. except those two songs and because they don't have vocals. if they had vocals i would not even bother listening.


This whole band doesn't have vocals.


i know i have the cd, don't like the rest of the "chuggy math look what i can do songs" coherency is key.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Sep 15,2010 4:14pm
I don't see how 8 string guitars are gimmicky, or what a dude decides to wear on stage is gimmicky, but that's just me (let's not all get butthurt by this now).

With that said, they're gonna be in Boston with Circa Survive on my birthday. Definitely going.



toggletoggle post by Woah!_Shut_It_Down!  at Sep 15,2010 6:48pm
immortal13 said[orig][quote]
what a dude decides to wear on stage is gimmicky.


Attn: MarkFuckingRichards



toggletoggle post by sever at Sep 15,2010 7:09pm
ArrowHeadNLI said[orig][quote]
Who knew that it just takes one faggot vocalist to ruin an otherwise amazing batch of songs?


See: Ion Dissonance



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard at Sep 16,2010 12:24pm
animals as wren leaders



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 16,2010 12:27pm
LOL



toggletoggle post by bloblovesmusic at Sep 16,2010 12:36pm
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
animals as wren leaders


heh, I was wondering when someone would make this comment



toggletoggle post by goatcatabisk at Sep 16,2010 2:12pm
Tom yum koong is delicious



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Oct 23,2011 3:39pm
^BACKED HARD



toggletoggle post by t2daeeknli at Oct 23,2011 4:54pm
i think that all this stuff is a resurgence of what it was like to play shred before that manner of songwriting got dated sounding. these dudes obviously play really really well and they definitely know their audience. they are educated musicians writing music for educated musicians in hopes that if people can figure out what they're doing that they'll get "respect" or "cred" from people who give a shit about guitar playing. unfortunately, most non musicians don't give a shit about guitar playing.
i like the way these guys do it, but i'm probably biased because i usually like this whole progressive "djent" metal genre and i give a shit about guitar playing. it's obviously not everyones cup of tea and you definitely can't see a dude wearing a shirt and tie when you're listening to the record and vacuuming the living room. great for driving too. you kinda loose yourself in all the twists and turns. maybe it's not so great for driving.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 23,2011 6:43pm



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Oct 23,2011 9:17pm
There are some funny observations to be had in this thread.



toggletoggle post by t2daeeknli at Oct 24,2011 8:54am
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]

bennyhillifier

yea. it's cool to hear em play with "real" drums. though i'm sure the drums are just as cut up and corrected as the guitars. all their old stuff was all done with no bass and a drum machine and it sounded a little more lo fi. i think i hear bass in there a little bit.
i'm pretty sure they're still doing everything on their own but it sounds really polished now. these guys should get tom jenkinson from squarepusher to play bass for them. that would be such a ridiculous collaboration.



toggletoggle post by Nachzerhehehrerherherherherherehrerherhhhhererhe... its a banana ... at Oct 24,2011 2:48pm
sucks.



toggletoggle post by aliensvszombies at Oct 24,2011 2:55pm
I think the drummer is from Animosity.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 24,2011 2:56pm
Animosity as Leaders



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 24,2011 3:50pm
Blotted Science >



toggletoggle post by The_Rooster  at Oct 24,2011 4:45pm
Frederick Thorendal's Special Defects, or GTFO.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Oct 24,2011 5:01pm
djent = a bunch of kids who used to love nu metal that recently heard tech stuff & meshuggah



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 24,2011 5:12pm
hahaha "djent", i have never heard of that. sounds like a bunch of faggotry to me.



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at Oct 24,2011 8:50pm
Going to see them with Between The Buried and Me and Cave In at the House of Blues on Sunday.



toggletoggle post by man o warski at Oct 24,2011 11:16pm
aqdwdxswx



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