After the recent death of many celebrities, we all lost sight of the real news going on: North Korea nuke threats and chaos in Iran.
Figured I'd post yet another CIA bashing thread.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/29/iran.neda.ahmadinejad/index.html

Even though CNN is mainstream news, I saw this coming. There was no protest when she was shot, and the bullet was from a hand pistol, none of which the Iran Security forces use.

CIA at work, yet again.

big surprise. luckily most of america replies with..."Neda Who?"

also the Climate bill is about to be passed to completely ruin whats left of our soverienty

climate... bill.. ?

i know you know what i'm talking about

Neda? Captain Needa??

I understand the purpose of the climate bill and how they want us to start finding alternative energy sources, it's just going to be chaos in this recession. China's going to probably buy ou debt again, and then we're going to owe them a couple more trillion dollars.
WWIII is coming. can't wait.

I really doubt this was the CIA dude. Don't you think the CIA would have come up with a better target than an innocent young woman? The very fact that Iran had pre-dug graves to put these "criminals" in speaks volumes of what is really going on. Granted she has become a huge symbol for revolution to be used against the government. The CIA would have staged something more reliable than just creating a martyr. Like secretly supplying arms to the opposition for instance.

To say that it can't be the Basij/police because of the caliber weapon used is not a very convincing argument. Iran's government LIES to hold on to power! just like any other government. The Basij are a state sponsored militia but I'm sure they have access to weapons other than what they are provided by the government. Have you read the crap that has been on Iran's state sponsored press tv website? They sound like Baghdad Bob. "All is well, the protesters are terrorists, nothing to see here people, Go Ahmadinejad, you rock, have my baby!! And I thought Fox News was a propaganda machine.

And no one lost site of what was going on because of celebrity deaths. Just the main stream media deciding not to report on what's really important again. Like the wars, Honduras, North Korea, or protests in China that didn't get any coverage what so ever.

It's kind of interesting though. News and video relating to protests out of Iran has seemed to slow or stopped all together. Kind of leads me to believe that the Republican Guard has crushed any attempts at protest with extreme force. Last video I saw was students at the university screaming and fleeing from gunfire with several students wounded. It was like they were trapped and had no place to go. Completely fucked situation there! Last news I heard was people were chanting from the rooftops at night and the Basij raiding homes and destroying property in an attempt to silence them.

Bottom line is oppress a people long enough and you will eventually have dissent and revolution. This is Iran's problem. Yes the U.S. has a history of involvement but the current situation has been caused by Iran's current Regime oppressing a younger generation. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the world will view and deal with Iran after seeing the human rights violations they seem to brush off.

And it's sad to think that you are right, most people in the U.S. will reply with "Neda Who?".

Suuuuuuure it was. The CIA has agents go out of their way in a hostile country to assassinate a random woman hoping it would somehow spiral into a protest symbol and become a martyr.

And yeah, the Climate Bill will fuck us HARD and you still will not see anything groundbreaking in terms of what the dopes behind this plan think is going to happen for years.

If I remember correctly China spoke out recently about the Federal Reserve essentially saying they need to stop printing monopoly money and that they would not continue to buy up debt the U.S. isn't good for. I forget where exactly I saw this. Basically we are fucked. Better start learning Mandarin.

I'm on the fence. I would not be surprised if it was the CIA, but if it wasn't I wouldn't be surprised as well. It's a complete mess over there, and the mainstream media barely touches it.

I disagree though; I think there are two key factors into what's happening there:
a.) like you said, the government oppression of the younger Iranian generation (which is roughly 70% of its population)
and
b.) the CIA taking advantage of the situation for American hegemonic interests.

There were some claims/ reports released that said the CIA put millions of dollars in rigging the election, as well as follow-up actions.

I honestly don't know what to believe.. but what I do know is that Iran is fucked, they need a revolution of sorts. And I don't trust the CIA/Mass-Media/World Elite/Shadow Govenment/Black Ops/Top Secret American Agenda one bit.

There are so many things we do not know.

What we can do, though, is look into similar things that happened in the past. America has meddled in many similar affairs in the past.

hahah A+, i just watched Empire yesterday.

More than likely what we are witnessing is a military coup for power. The Basij force are mainly Ahmadinejad's guys left over from the Iran Iraq war. They are much older than the opposition. It is possible that they rigged the election themselves and plan on overthrowing the Supreme Leader for total control. In any case the Supreme Leader and the Islamic regime seems to have lost a lot of credibility out of this whole mess.

little known fact about Iran:

They've got a huge Nazi movement. True-blooded persians are white and have no Arabian descent in them. I remember reading about this movement, where a lot of Persians hate the Arabians and anyone of arabic blood.

(waiting for Conservationist)

I was reading another article the other day about some indie band from Iran and how awesome it is that they were defying the government by being a rock band lol. Thankfully someone else had commented with a list of bands from Iran off of metal-archives (most of which are black metal) before I had the chance to do the same. Way more hardcore if you are willing to risk being put to death for the music you create in my opinion.

We used to bash an Arab black metal band on the FMP board all the time. But he made a good point that he risks his life everyday by defying Allah and he has to lie saying he is Muslim.

On Hulu.com, they've got "Metal In Baghdad" documentary about a Trash metal band (the only one) in Iraq and their struggles. Really interesting watch.

Agitprop is popular among CIA, ex-KGB, and Mossad.

It's even popular in American civil rights movements.

How often do you hear that Rosa Parks was employed by the civil rights movement?