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returntothepit >> discuss >> March 16 in Taunton Mass by the_reverend on Mar 17,2002 2:51am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 17,2002 2:51am
I love bands that use drum machines. <br>and hate people that jump in to the crowd punching for faces. <br>the:enclitic lost it and rocked in their 15 minute set.



toggletoggle post by Squeek at Mar 17,2002 10:34am
Yeah, the people who jumped into the crowd randomly punching people were such a pain in the ass, and they made the show suck ass at first, luckily they stop ( I think it was cause of the Cop). <br>Did the guitarist from Dreaded Silence look like Jesus to you?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 17,2002 11:31am
yeah, he did sort of look like jesus. <br>is that why someone broke his leg?



toggletoggle post by doug in fits at Mar 17,2002 11:33am
yeah, I thought he was there to save my soul.



toggletoggle post by eben at Mar 17,2002 2:18pm
fuck tounton. fuck everyone at the show. ('cept aaron, joe, and company)fuck hardcore bands. fuck toughguys. fuck shaved heads and goatees. fuck straightedge. fuck moshing. once again fuck toughguys. fuck you. fuck canada. and extra 'specially fuck that stupid fucking 300 lb inbred piece of massachussets shit with the Cannae shirt on that likes to hit little girls.<br>
<img src="/pics/march162002/tmf.jpg" height=320>



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 18,2002 2:35am
at the red chord / cannae / shai halud show at the middle east, there was tons of assholes punching girls there mostly during cannae... <br> <br>so fuck cannae and their stupid ass friends that don't have respect for the people that choose not to dance like faggots! <br> <br>oh and someone should tell these fuckers that stage jumping onto 3 people doesn't work... I wish I had a gun on monday night!



toggletoggle post by doug in fits at Mar 18,2002 8:59am
I won't go so far as to blame a band. <br>it's not their fault when someone with a few missing genes likes their music. I mean, you'd have to have the audience of, say Halo Suffocation Machine to be selective with who you allow to like your music. Plus, I like cannae, I like seeing them in concert and they are great guys. There's an article in CMJ from april last year with Adam wearing a Backstabbers Inc tshirt. Any one who would wear a bsi shirt is cool in my book.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 18,2002 1:30pm
I'd say fuck me. <br>I'm the fucktard who forgot to link up the pictures for Bury Your Dead. <br>I'm the asshole once again.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 18,2002 1:47pm
I totally blame cannae for the assholes they attracted to their show at the middle east or anywhere else. <br> <br>I didn't see anyone not being an asshole in the pit during cannae! If they were such nice guys maybe they could tell their gay friends that punch girls to not be dumbasses. I don't think cannae is a good band at all, they are just a bunch of dumb hardcore motherfuckers that have generic breakdowns. <br> <br>and adam, who cares if he wears a BSI shirt? doesn't mean they are a good band or nice guys. <br>



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 18,2002 1:53pm
on another note, the only "real" fight I saw was a girl chasing and hitting some guy.



toggletoggle post by Squeek at Mar 18,2002 8:12pm
Yeah I noticed that guy in the cannae shirt too... he really F*&king pissed me off. And there was some other fat kid who was a real pain too. Its lame when people go in and try to beat up people in the crowd, and I also noticed some guy got kicked in the crotch. Grrr...some people at that show just totally pissed me off.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 18,2002 9:35pm
there was a kid with a video camera that got put on his ass by someone. He said his friend was the one that got kicked in the crotch. sucks to be that person. I just don't understand when people jump into the audience punching. I like watching people do flips or get so pissed off that they punch the ground/air. But just jumping into the crowd punching, that's fucking stupid. As some one said at the concert, "I hope those people trip and fall into cancer" or "I hope they drink a gallon of aids". Doubt I will be heading down there anytime soon. <br> <br>hint to the kids: <br>If there's a corner full of video camera and people photographing, don't jump into it throwing punches. ^.^ <br>that pisses of the people and could break $1000 cameras.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 18,2002 9:43pm
hey everyone, this is ken from dreadeD Silence. we wanted to thank everyone who enjoyed our set on saturday. i agree with you all that those guys who were punching at the crowd weren't cool at all, but everyone else who was just there to enjoy themselves and check out the bands made the show worthwhile. thanks to the reverend for posting pics of us. also, everyone associated with our band loved the jesus comments about our rhythm guitarist. we couldn't stop laughing. he gets the jesus thing all the time, but is actually not part of an organized religion. also, that whole thing about his leg happened last month when someone was nailing his ankle to a cross...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 20,2002 11:23am
I like nailing things to xcrossx <br>it's better than xlacrosex <br> <br>here's a review from someone who's not me. <br>enjoy: <br><a href="http://www.monkeybutler5.com/articles/lftd.htm" target="_blank">http://www.monkeybutler5.com/articles/lftd.htm</a>



toggletoggle post by wei wei [the asian girl with the black short hai... think before typing ... at Mar 20,2002 8:43pm
the moment i got there, <br>i saw those assholes in their "cool" band hoodies, <br>and i knew they were gonna be trouble from the start. <br> <br>when the crappy cds flew outta nowhere during the enclitic, <br>that was bad. <br>some people got hit hard, <br>and i even saw some blood on the floor. <br> <br>random people who can't deal with just taking their aggression out in the middle of the pit, <br>hitting by standards on the side was aggravating. <br> <br>to bad joshua fit for battle dropped. <br>but all in all at the end everything was pretty good. <br>



toggletoggle post by eben enclitic at Mar 20,2002 10:43pm
wei wei, your are one very attractive female. I couldnt really bring myself to say that in person because I'm just not that forward.. but damn. <br> <br>(i'm the skinny bass player kid from the:enclitic) <br> <br>I know i know, completely random post, but you only live once.. and you deserve to know someone out there thinks your totally a hot ticket!



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Mar 20,2002 11:05pm
go man go!



toggletoggle post by Wheeler at Mar 21,2002 12:53am
Hey this is Johnny who helped Eric put on the show. It was a very successful show except for the tough guys and the assholes who broke the men's bathroom door, I hope u rot in hell, but anyways I'm glad that everyone had fun and next year it will be even better and at a different place. I don't want Pigs at my shows.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 21,2002 8:55am
eben: <br><a href="http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=5358" target="_blank">http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=5358</a> <br><a href="http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=5355" target="_blank">http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=5355</a> <br><a href="http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=4092" target="_blank">http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=4092</a> <br>love on the discussion board? <br>weird... I think that someone should meet and get married here.. hell, I'm a real, honest to goodness reverend. I've performed one wedding thus far so maybe I could do another. <br> <br>Hit on girls at shows? I'm too old and to into taking pictures. plus, youre never too old to rock... but you do get too old to hit on 16 year olds at show. <br>I'm starting a new trend, NH BLADDING METAL! we're taking over the scene



toggletoggle post by HARKINS at Mar 21,2002 10:57am
I also think that wei wei is extremely attractive.



toggletoggle post by ebenclitic at Mar 21,2002 2:41pm
your a funny bast-ard aaaron!!!



toggletoggle post by BiLLy(celtics) at Mar 21,2002 9:45pm
no more whining by these so called "metalheads" or metalpussies as i shuld call them,.,peeple get hurt at shows ive ben hurt a lot more than what happened at this shwo,.,FUCKIN DEAL,.,as for the gayclitic..rumor has it u hav a problim wit me,., shulda sed it at the show ill be there saturday buddy this time dont get too slose or ill drop u AGAIN,.,until then HARDCORE(its a way of life) HARDCORE(till the day i die) much love to the automata....in dire need and the red chord



toggletoggle post by eben at Mar 21,2002 11:31pm
no beef whatsoever man, just didn't agree with how people were "dancing." its over, we dont have any sort of problem with you or anythign like that. <br> <br>



toggletoggle post by wheeler at Mar 22,2002 12:24am
Billy are u the Cannae kid? if so ur a loser, yea hardcore is a way of life but it's not right to beat on girls. Only pussies hit girls, if u wanna dance keep it in the pit, don't bring it to the edge. O'Doyle Rules



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Mar 22,2002 1:15am
Bill I'm gonna defend you even though I'm so terribly hurt over the fact that you left my band out of your thanks. <br> <br>Nah, Bill wasn't the kid in the Cannae shirt. Bill may dance hard but I don't see him hitting any girls. He DID however hit the bass player from the enclitic, BUT that was only cuz he got hit in the head with a bass, not just to be some kind of macho jerk. BIG misunderstanding. Lets all be pals. One scene unity or some other commin correct lyrics that i can't remember, whatever, you get the point, lets just stop complaining about all of this.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2002 1:34am
I feel and old school sing along and an old school circle pit coming on. <br><a href="http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=3215" target="_blank">http://www.returntothepit.com/amimetalornot.php?id=3215</a> <br> <br>the thing that everyone should really be raging against is nu skool metal... god I hate <b>mallcore</b>.



toggletoggle post by Wheeler at Mar 22,2002 3:42pm
Oh well fuck it just don't hit girls at shows and don't hit people in the bands that make up the scene. Shit happens and it always will just have fun and make sure u stay in the pit. Dont forget <br> <br>O'Doyle Rules



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 22,2002 3:47pm
but you can "hit on" people. <br>that's different. <br>shit, actually, that breaks up bands too.. <br>so don't do that either.



toggletoggle post by eben at Mar 22,2002 4:29pm
i got hit? thats funny i dont remember getting hit. <br> <br>also if i did in fact hit him on the head with my bass, tell him I'm sorry. wasnt intentional.



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Mar 22,2002 11:25pm
*big pileon* "long hair, short hair, straightedge or not, never can we be all the same but we all make up the scene!" Word, cuz we're commin correct in a positive direction and such. lets pretend that any of that is actually true and stop the insanity.



toggletoggle post by Squeek at Mar 23,2002 1:21am
Ooooo. Eben...hitting on my friend Wei Wei. Kinky ^_~



toggletoggle post by wei wei [the asian girl with the black short hai... im mallc0re ... at Mar 23,2002 9:46am
thanks eben, <br>that was really sweet. <br>you should have said something at the show. <br>we could have gone out for a drink or something. <br> <br>but i hope things go well with the eclitic, <br>maybe i'll see you at a show later.



toggletoggle post by eben at Mar 23,2002 11:40am
xmikex: we dont have to pretend, many people share similar thoughts about the "scene", I'm one of them. lets keep momentum. Youth music, and the DIY mentality make such a great authority-free network enviroment, its a shame to see people taking part in it for fights/drama/whatever... i dont mean to trash on HC shows as much as i have been, its just where I see the most corruptoion, and the least kinship. All i want to see at shows is kids freaking out, with giant smiles on thier faces. <br> <br>squeek: shut up!! on a meesage board no less! hah. I'm lame. <br> <br>wei wei: shame I'm only 19. rock on.



toggletoggle post by Wei Wei at Mar 23,2002 12:36pm
No, i meant like a coffee drink...im too young to get an alcholic beverage myself.



toggletoggle post by doug in fits at Mar 23,2002 1:13pm
wei wei, go to the show at Exit 23 tonight. If you don't have to work. Haverhills got some coffee places, right?



toggletoggle post by squeek at Mar 23,2002 3:50pm
Hey, Wei Wei is at work right now...so im semi-replying for her <br> <br> We won't be able to make it to the show tonight. But if you have any other shows coming up we'd love to go. ( you guys put on an amazing live show.) <br> <br>Well good luck at the show tonight, kick some ass. <br>-squeek



toggletoggle post by squeek at Mar 23,2002 4:38pm
wait...doug is in enclitic right? <br>



toggletoggle post by ebooon at Mar 23,2002 4:52pm
no one named doug in the:enclitic.. matter of fact, I dont know who doug in fits is! who are you doug? <br> <br>My other band is playing at exit 23 tongiht. go



toggletoggle post by wei wei at Mar 23,2002 5:39pm
doug? who is that? <br> <br>but anyways, <br>yeah, i'm out of work rite now and i'm at squeak's. <br> <br>i don't think i can make it to your show eben. <br>i'm going to see neil perry and some other bands <br>at lawrence, at the american legion. <br> <br>but maybe if your around boston sometime. <br>we can go out for lunch, drink, etc, <br>like i said before. <br> <br>by the way, sorry i confused you by saing "drink <br>i'm younger than you by a little bit. <br>[this is insane, over a massage board, heh heh]



toggletoggle post by wei wei at Mar 23,2002 5:52pm
oh shit! <br>i didn't mean it like that, <br>sorry, i'm hoping im not giving you the impression that i'm blowing you off. <br> <br>i'm seeing neil perry and some other bands already <br>b/c my friends are already taking me and <br>i would love to see your instead but i have no way to get there and they already want to see neil perry. <br> <br>i'm sorry, <br>i'm not to slick at this. <br>it's not everday a cute guy talks to me. <br> <br>but i still really would like to hang out. <br>[i am so fucking stupid, pardon me]



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Mar 24,2002 12:19am
I think a vast majority of us are pretending to care about supposed hardcore ethics. The whole "hardcore family" thing is really a big joke to me. I'm a firm believer in the idea that there is no such thing as a scene. I believe in people and bands on an individual basis, and I personally believe that thats the best way to go about considering anything. I've been going to shows since I was 14 or so and the idea of scene unity used to sound great to me. Now it's 5 years later and I couldn't care less. I hear all these kids clammering about "support the scene" and it usually means "come see my shitty band", or "don't kick me in the head". I for one have just lost a whole lot of faith in people in general because of the "scene". When my band goes out and does a show I used to say to myself, gee I hope everyone loves us and has a great time. Now I'm really just in this for myself, my band and our small group of friends and supporters. In this whole discussion I've probably seemed a little insensitive to the idea of innocent kids getting hurt. But in all honesty if I turned around at the end of our set and saw nothing but a room full of dead kids I'd probably just laugh till my heart exploded. <br> <br>theres a ton of kids out there who really DO care about this music. And it makes my day when someone like that has a kind word to say to me. but those people are lost in a sea of others who are just there for appearances, or to fill some sort of lame psychological void in their life. i don't need those people, and I hope they choke. <br> <br>When I goto a show and everyone is having a good time dancing getting along no fights helping eachother out smiling and going nuts for the love of the music it is one of the greatest joys i've ever known. but those shows are few and far between, and those people are a fraction of something much larger and uglier. so i'll reserve my unity pride and respect for those who earn it, not simply those who pay a cover charge.



toggletoggle post by wei wei at Mar 24,2002 12:27am
agreed. <br> <br>i'm in the "scene" attitude <br>is just gone way overboard. <br> <br>people like that don't make room for other people <br>to come in and get the experience of good music. <br> <br>it's so exclusive, <br>when it should be open ground. <br> <br>everyone should be able to do this, <br>it's their choice whether or not they like it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 24,2002 1:27am
xmikex, brilliantly said. <br> <br>though... taking scene-sters money must be easy. <br>then they sit in the back and smoke cigarettes and bitch above how the lead singer of XbandX is ignoring them. <br>I just want to go up to them and say "YOU PARENTS JUST BOUGHT YOU A JETTA SO SHUT THE FUCK UP."



toggletoggle post by justin at Mar 24,2002 10:15pm
to eben and the:enclitic. i dont have your email, so what better place to send the message than this board. i have the video you guys requested, i just have to lift the couch cushions to scrape together postage. i'll definitely have it sent out within the week.



toggletoggle post by Wheeler at Mar 25,2002 9:27am
I def. agree with mike, this so called unity is bullshit, now all I see is cliques of either tough guys, posers, or people who just want to have fun. I'm def. there to have fun, sometimes I'll go in the pit but I know where the boundaries are. I mean I'm not just going up to people and through random punches in peoples faces whether hitting them or not that's still asking for a fight. Well in my opinion, anyway, me and eric plan on putting on another show either april or may if u know of any bands that would like to be in a show just let us know. My e-mail is atthehaunted@yahoo.com



toggletoggle post by eben at Mar 26,2002 10:45am
justin: my email is cavein9@aol.com. but your better off shouting a holler to either Deborgisaprogram@aol.com, or xbreathofgodx@hotmail.com... for derek or kevin, respectivly. we'd love to see that video, and if you send it, we'll reimburse the postage, coz we're nice guys like that. thanks for taping and getting ahold of me. peace be with you. <br> <br>wei wei: lunch.. coffee... georgous girl...mmmm.... <br> <br>I dont know where you live or anything, but keep your eyes peeled for Thieves shows, or enclitic shows (tour may 28-june 4 suckers!!) coz thats where i'll be! <br>take care.



toggletoggle post by Adam at Mar 29,2002 4:13pm
The kid with the Cannae shirt in that picture Bruce, it seems some of you wanted to know. <br> <br>Brand new The Red Chord site up soon, so keep checking back. <a href="http://www.theredchord.org" target="_blank">http://www.theredchord.org</a>



toggletoggle post by Adam at Mar 29,2002 4:13pm
The kid with the Cannae shirt in that picture Bruce, it seems some of you wanted to know. <br> <br>Brand new The Red Chord site up soon, so keep checking back. <a href="http://www.theredchord.org" target="_blank">http://www.theredchord.org</a>



toggletoggle post by edgemastaflex at Apr 30,2002 4:08pm
hey listen up. i heard a lot of shit being talked about this show. i know it was a long time ago and i don't know if anyone will ever read this but some guys who dance tough don't look for girls to hit, the cds that were thrown were from the Star Lab Records kid and not some tough guy, and the bloody kid was from the fucking elitic or how ever the fuck you say it. Those kids dis hitting kids in the crowd, that's funny because i saw them swinging their instruments around at kids on the edge. You guys are fucking hypocrites, i thought you might like to know. have a nice day.



toggletoggle post by the enilticictil at Apr 30,2002 5:28pm
we only swing guitars at the girls. they dont fight back. :^D <br> <br>eat/fuck/grind/die. <br> <br>this post is funny coz it just keeps going. The taunton show wasnt even that good. heh.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 30,2002 6:14pm
I like the name the elitic. <br>that's probably the funniest thing I've heard. <br>well, next to people impersonating the Ozbornes for me cause I don't care to ever watch them or pay to get MTV.



toggletoggle post by doug in fits at May 3,2002 5:15pm
<a href="http://www.deadjournal.com/talkpost.bml?itemid=2593256" target="_blank">http://www.deadjournal.com/talkpost.bml?itemid=2593256</a> <br> <br>I love random journal things.



toggletoggle post by the elicitic-tic-tic at May 4,2002 9:32am
I did a little background research on this young lad.. turns out he really does like to hit girls after all! We can all rest assured now.. <br> <br>here's proof positive: <br>(a direct quote from his "dead-journal") <br> <br>"...definately not going to pick up some scenester slut who's fucked every guy at a hardcore show, i'd rather punch her in the face and then tell her later it was an accident, but that once again is another subject all together."



toggletoggle post by squeek at May 4,2002 2:05pm
I never saw that kid hitting girls...It was someone else, I also have a strange feeling that the person Im refering to isn't anyone who is being blamed for this. but i never did really get a good look at the person.



toggletoggle post by eben at May 5,2002 12:38am
but still.. he has a dead journal. :D



toggletoggle post by wei wei at May 6,2002 8:54pm
that makes me so angry about the hitting girls part, <br>and i am not even a scenester. <br>hitting people in general is not cool, <br>plain and simple.



toggletoggle post by fuck off at May 13,2002 10:49pm
this post is still going on? <br> yeah how about this happened 2 mnths ago and people need to start getting over it. <br> <br>and.. some girls just need to be hit. <br>you people read way too much into things that are said. i suggest you all get the dicks out of your ass's and calm down.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 16,2002 10:56am
I am the taunton discussion thread, and I refuse to die!



toggletoggle post by March 16 veteran at May 16,2002 11:08am
die die die die!



toggletoggle post by xmikewarninx at May 23,2002 10:00am
you guys are a bunch of pussy thats how we dance fuck metal you fucking fags come to ct well show you how its done.......much love to bury your dead <br>



toggletoggle post by ebenenclitic at May 24,2002 8:58am
we'll be in CT tonight nancy boy. come to our show and let me throw my guitar at your teeth. thanks. <br> <br>Will someone delete this thread already. I grow tired of the toughies.



toggletoggle post by erik of death at May 24,2002 12:11pm
its seems here in ct the kids preaching about unity, and the scene are all involved in their own little clique. They like to dance, and throw their mass into the crowd, they love to start fights, and they like to chill by our cars with baseball bats. It seems the kids like that are just assholes who were cut from the football team. I've been going to shows for quite some time now, met alot of friends, and alot of assholes. I consider friends i meet through shows friends, and i dont group them all together in some fabricated sense of a "scene". The thing i hate about ct, is that all the kids i was talking about before, I had never seen at ct skatepark, or the sports palace, or shows before like last year and they refuse to admit this fact. Now on the subject of hardcore, I honestly cant stand that shit. How can people see palm mutes, and barre chords as anything more than poorley executed background noise for violent acts in the pit.



toggletoggle post by devon at May 24,2002 4:30pm
i was filming the show supporting my boys The Automata (who were encrediable that night) and I was bumped into a couple of times and nocked over and shit but it was a cool and all in fun. Bruce as far as when I have talked to him has been really cool he hits girls only "by accident" he souldn't do that but I'm not his mother. Whatever the:enclitic were crazy that night.



toggletoggle post by xGrindx at May 25,2002 1:17am
this is why i litsen to grind



toggletoggle post by HAHAHA!! I LIVE ON! at Aug 23,2002 10:20pm
Long live the march 16 thread. the most viewed in RTTP history. <br>I was reading over this bad boy ( mostly out of nostalgia) and some of the rediculous things these xhxcx kids said... make me want to shit in thier mouths. <br>Come to Maine Yo! WE'll show you how its Did-done.



toggletoggle post by jonhostage   at Aug 24,2002 3:42pm
old orchard beach style?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2002 3:49pm
no, ogunquit style I think. <br>you know, guys in speedos wrestling



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Aug 24,2002 4:51pm
ok this thread should be dead, your g4y.



toggletoggle post by ebenator at Aug 25,2002 1:11am
no die <br> <br> <br>never <br> <br> <br> <br>Live <br> <br> <br>drunk



toggletoggle post by Haterade at May 3,2003 6:09pm
Cannae is so fuckn terrible...I can't believe people would waste a cent on there sucky band...



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 30,2003 12:10pm edited Jul 30,2003 12:11pm
If the rest of you can be repetative petty assholes so can I.

I'm bringing back the thread!

the automata ruled.
dancing like an asshole is awsome.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Jul 30,2003 2:09pm
8=================D~~~~~~~ ( . Y . )



toggletoggle post by Beakey   at Jul 30,2003 2:13pm
That design is awesome.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 30,2003 2:15pm
it's funny
a year and a half later...
now everyone dances like dicks and no ones cares.
hah!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 30,2003 7:11pm
half the kids who were complaining about ed dancing like an asshole stole all his moves. pretty funny.



toggletoggle post by ratt_mowe at Jul 30,2003 8:04pm
hahahah oh man... mike, you are incredible. i remember this show and all this bullshit like it was yesterday.



toggletoggle post by xPaulBLAHBLAHx   at Jul 31,2003 1:56am
Fuckkkkkkk you automata fans!!! I SEEN YOU HIT MY GIRLFRIEND !!! DAR!!!! RATTT MOWE LETS FIGHTTTTT !!!!! DAR!!!!



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