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returntothepit >> discuss >> Jay Severin loses it. voting for obama makes you a domestic enemy of the constitution by the_reverend on Oct 22,2008 4:25pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 22,2008 4:25pm
this guy is a fucking idiot. ever since romney lost, this elitist douchebag hasn't shut up with the term "domestic enemy of the constitution". well;atleast he stopped saying crimaliens. it's just a 3 hour diatribe with every other word "domestic enemy of the constitution" and the dim and dimmer callers just cry about obama winning. they should just start saying the south will rise again.

and his support for mccain and anti-obama mentioning ACORN. when mccain just gave a speech in 2006 at ACORN praising them.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 22,2008 4:26pm
I ddont like obama but when I listen to severin, it makes me want to go voluteer for obama



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 22,2008 4:30pm
Listening to Jay Severin is awesome. It's kinda like watching someone get crushed by a 50,000 ton rock: fun.

I hate everything he says but I love how he says it and who he says it too. My mom is a conservative so she loves that shit.

Honestly, though, best thing on the radio right now is Car Talk on NPR.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Oct 22,2008 4:36pm
Hah, I'm sure that guy only has a job because of how ridiculous and memorable his bullshit is.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 22,2008 5:03pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
and his support for mccain and anti-obama mentioning ACORN. when mccain just gave a speech in 2006 at ACORN praising them.


McCain didn't work for them!

As far as he knew, they were just nice people trying to help out the black people.

FFS



toggletoggle post by archaeon at Oct 22,2008 5:16pm
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
Hah, I'm sure that guy only has a job because of how ridiculous and memorable his bullshit is.


exactly. i wrote a paper on this for my democracy class and that explained his fame.



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 22,2008 6:10pm
it goes both ways rev...according to some Obama supporters i'm a racist...i've seen it first hand...all in the perspective on what you support...we just choose to drink from different glasses...



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Oct 22,2008 6:35pm
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
according to some Obama supporters i'm a racist


Yeah, and they're wrong, just like this guy is wrong. Here's a message to all people on both sides of the political spectrum: STOP GETTING DEFENSIVE AND START ADMITTING WHEN PEOPLE ARE WRONG.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 22,2008 6:51pm
rich, please make a thread about a syndicated radio show that says that mccain hates niggers/US way of life and that you hate niggers/US way of life if you vote for him. 2 points it the person goes on a 3 hr diatribe 5 days a week about those facts.

Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 22,2008 6:53pm
severin wants obama to win so he'll have 4-8 years of easy material



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Oct 22,2008 7:04pm
obama is miltons' humanist...'he understands,' your problems.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 22,2008 7:11pm
i'm pro-raping kids



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 22,2008 7:12pm
fuck and that was stated on my site... double wammy



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 22,2008 8:47pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
rich, please make a thread about a syndicated radio show that says that mccain hates niggers/US way of life and that you hate niggers/US way of life if you vote for him. 2 points it the person goes on a 3 hr diatribe 5 days a week about those facts.

Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


Can;t because it would have a right wing slant and be considered wrong by the left wing majority...the left wants it all...they go up in arms when attacked as opposed to just presenting their arguments. Really, kids getting beat up for liking mcCain or palin? If that happened to an obama supporter the molotov cocktails would be flying! So for as much as you hate Severin's rants YOUR liberal rants/McCain put downs are almost just as bad...too far to one side



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 22,2008 9:26pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


No, it's not -- ACORN is a significant part of Obama's experience in which he claims leadership credit, meaning he agreed wholeheartedly with its mission and activities. He was down with the plan; others are outsiders.

If he were just a janitor, sure, we wouldn't blame him. But he profited from helping ACORN accomplish its goal and clearly agrees with its methods.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 22,2008 9:28pm
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
Can;t because it would have a right wing slant and be considered wrong by the left wing majority...


The left is a cult based on identity, not getting it right.

They still insist they're not the majority.

And as you can see by the "argumentation" here, they often have no idea what they're talking about.

This is mass involvement in politics. It's a stupid idea.

I think to vote you need to be able to complete a rational argument, defend it, and attack another without spewing any logical fallacies or failing to make a valid statement.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Oct 22,2008 10:33pm
Martins said[orig][quote]


Honestly, though, best thing on the radio right now is Car Talk on NPR.


backed, i don't even like cars, those guys are just amazing



toggletoggle post by porphyria at Oct 22,2008 10:55pm
if you're voting for mccain/palin...I could never be your friend and think you need to check into a hospital for possible mental illness, ha.

while obama has his share of b.s. like any other politician, he's clearly the lesser evil.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 12:04am
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
rich, please make a thread about a syndicated radio show that says that mccain hates niggers/US way of life and that you hate niggers/US way of life if you vote for him. 2 points it the person goes on a 3 hr diatribe 5 days a week about those facts.

Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


Can;t because it would have a right wing slant and be considered wrong by the left wing majority...the left wants it all...they go up in arms when attacked as opposed to just presenting their arguments. Really, kids getting beat up for liking mcCain or palin? If that happened to an obama supporter the molotov cocktails would be flying! So for as much as you hate Severin's rants YOUR liberal rants/McCain put downs are almost just as bad...too far to one side

see what lamp said. and the reason you aren't making a thread like that is cause you can't.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 12:07am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


No, it's not -- ACORN is a significant part of Obama's experience in which he claims leadership credit, meaning he agreed wholeheartedly with its mission and activities. He was down with the plan; others are outsiders.

If he were just a janitor, sure, we wouldn't blame him. But he profited from helping ACORN accomplish its goal and clearly agrees with its methods.

OOOHHH, so then McCain doesn't claim the US Military a a significant part of his experience in which he claims leadership credit. I guess that must have been a robot talking about that that just looked like mccain.

And it was the lower people that committed fraud for money since they were pressured from above.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 12:09am
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
Martins said[orig][quote]


Honestly, though, best thing on the radio right now is Car Talk on NPR.


backed, i don't even like cars, those guys are just amazing

I listen to them way to much in the past... I think it's ok... but that's about it.



toggletoggle post by CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY at Oct 23,2008 12:53am
I'm voting for McCain/Palin and so are the guys in my band... NO-Bama!!



toggletoggle post by porphyria at Oct 23,2008 1:05am
CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said[orig][quote]
I'm voting for McCain/Palin and so are the guys in my band... NO-Bama!!


no surprise there.



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Oct 23,2008 1:19am edited Oct 23,2008 1:21am
CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said[orig][quote]
I'm voting for McCain/Palin and so are the guys in my band... NO-Bama!!


That won't make a difference cuz Mass is for Obama!!!!



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toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 23,2008 6:58am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
rich, please make a thread about a syndicated radio show that says that mccain hates niggers/US way of life and that you hate niggers/US way of life if you vote for him. 2 points it the person goes on a 3 hr diatribe 5 days a week about those facts.

Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


Can;t because it would have a right wing slant and be considered wrong by the left wing majority...the left wants it all...they go up in arms when attacked as opposed to just presenting their arguments. Really, kids getting beat up for liking mcCain or palin? If that happened to an obama supporter the molotov cocktails would be flying! So for as much as you hate Severin's rants YOUR liberal rants/McCain put downs are almost just as bad...too far to one side

see what lamp said. and the reason you aren't making a thread like that is cause you can't.


I can but don't want to deal with or have time for any justifications on my end...it's clear where this board leans...why would I set myself up? Shame on you Rev!!



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 23,2008 8:07am
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
rich, please make a thread about a syndicated radio show that says that mccain hates niggers/US way of life and that you hate niggers/US way of life if you vote for him. 2 points it the person goes on a 3 hr diatribe 5 days a week about those facts.

Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


Can;t because it would have a right wing slant and be considered wrong by the left wing majority...the left wants it all...they go up in arms when attacked as opposed to just presenting their arguments. Really, kids getting beat up for liking mcCain or palin? If that happened to an obama supporter the molotov cocktails would be flying! So for as much as you hate Severin's rants YOUR liberal rants/McCain put downs are almost just as bad...too far to one side


Left wing majority? Sure, I guess that explains the last 8 years.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of this post.

Go vote for Jesus. Apparantly he loves you, or something.






toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 8:26am
No, it's because you can't. So shame on you or something. This is not a question of you defending anything. this is on the topic of me seeing someone being an idiot (severin) and me calling him out on it. Since calling him would do no good, since they screen out the best and brightest and only let in the southern inbred racists.

The only true shame is on the national GOP and metalheads that vote for a republican president. Metalheads: "I know that I hate God and all so he's not my co-pilot, but I know he's the guy who's driving's co-pilot and that's what I want." Throw away your slayer CDs. At every single election that I can voted in except the first (1996), I have voted for no fewer than 3/4 republicans, but I will not vote for a republican president. All national GOP candidates are there just to suck off God's cock. The national GOP is a joke. Not a single one of them stands for anything of the party of lincoln. All of them in my lifetime have increased the size of government, decreased our social liberties, and tried increased government's role in our lives/personal decisions. FUCK THAT. I like my abortions legal, my taxes low, and my country free. I would much rather vote for a dude that gets caught with his pants down getting sucked off by an intern than sucking off Jesus's dick publically every night.

and in closing, I would like for every single person in here who votes for a republican president to one day have a daughter who at 15 comes home pregnant after fucking some black kid at school and abortions are illegal. oh, I know you have the money to send her off on a abortion-vacation (aborshication is what I was going to call it) to france to get that 1/2 white, 1/2 black baby sucked out. but for the hundreds of million of poor in the US by then, there will be no chance to do anything other than a coathanger in an alley or children with children. Only when the wolves come to your door will you repent your sins on the hour of your death. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. God bless. Jesus saves.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 8:28am
damn it, that was at maslayer, I typed it on my phone and my phone wouldn't send for some reason. granted josh said in 2 lines what I said in 3 paragraphs.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Oct 23,2008 8:38am
thank you Rev!



toggletoggle post by independent at Oct 23,2008 9:19am
Democrats raise taxes and want bigger government...

and 15 year old girls wont be having sex with niggers at 15 if they arent exposed to that behavior via liberal media...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 9:34am
independent said[orig][quote]
Democrats raise taxes and want bigger government...

And Republicans raise taxes and make bigger government. At least democrats admit it and make modest gains where Republicans deny it and make huge gains.

independent said[orig][quote]

and 15 year old girls wont be having sex with niggers at 15 if they arent exposed to that behavior via liberal media...
Right, but that would take off my favorite TV show, nigerfucker90210 (the next gen). fun fact, 15 year olds never fucked before the advent of the TV and the liberal jew media. at least for now, we have a cure BIRTH CONTROL and ABORTION. unlike abstinence which works so well for republican's children.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 9:41am
oh, but if you are independent, I respect that. that's what my registration says that I am.



toggletoggle post by porphyria at Oct 23,2008 10:10am
independent said[orig][quote]
Democrats raise taxes and want bigger government...

and 15 year old girls wont be having sex with niggers at 15 if they arent exposed to that behavior via liberal media...


Obama wants to raise taxes for people making more than $250,000/year. Those people might have to hold off on buying another Rolex for a month, omfg.

All of these politicians regardless of political party want bigger government, stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

If nobody was liberal we probably wouldn't be allowed to have the internet, drill baby drill!



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Oct 23,2008 11:51am edited Oct 23,2008 12:11pm
SOUNDS LIKE......HMMMMMMMMMMMM SOCIALISM!

granted mccain is perhaps a dick, and a dreaded 'Republican' (oh gasp) but your zeal for obama is suspect..

let me remind everyone: the lesser of two evils is still....evil (its also a terrible cliche) and in turn, both gentlemen are ultimately nothing more than puppets for the illuminati. how difficult to pierce the veil of 'reality' it has become!

..a global government and in turn a global currency is so much closer than we know.

i always got a kick out of the people who thought/ still think that george bush actually ran this country. moreover, i still get a kick out of those who cling to all the bi-partisan bullshit...

lemmings to the sea!




toggletoggle post by porphyria at Oct 23,2008 12:05pm
we've all heard the Ron Paul argument, but he's not a choice in this election.

what is socialism?

tax cuts for most of americans, increased for the wealthiest = socialism?

universal healthcare = socialism?

why would that be a bad thing? every human being should be entitled to affordable healthcare.

If you consider obama to have 'socialist' views then so does palin, she spread the wealth in alaska.

"Label it unfortunate irony or crass hypocrisy, but at the very moment Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are berating Sen. Obama over his alleged "socialist-spread-the-wealth" policies, Alaskans eagerly anticipate their annual welfare check from the state government. One can imagine their creased, dry eyes fixated down a sparsely traveled goat path of a road, stoically shivering beside frozen mailboxes with one hand tucked inside a warm, fur lined pocket, the other, palm upward awaiting the mailman's crisp white envelope.

This year every Alaskan man, woman and child receives a government check in the amount of $3,269. That means Gov. Palin's seven-member family will reap a citizenship reward of $22,883. Since there are zero state sales or income taxes the government actually pays people to live in Alaska."



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 12:15pm
independent said[orig][quote]
Democrats raise taxes and want bigger government...

and 15 year old girls wont be having sex with niggers at 15 if they arent exposed to that behavior via liberal media...



Do you really think that the liberal media is the reason girls have sex at 15? With black or white dudes for that matter? hmmmm...



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 12:17pm
...and it doesn't lend any credit to your prospective when use the word niggers in a political discussion. Not that it bothers me, but it definitely makes your words have less meaningful weight.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Oct 23,2008 12:17pm
socialism is the sippy cup toward BIGGER government. If you trust government than thats a good thing.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 23,2008 12:17pm
I'm the reason girls have sex at 15



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Oct 23,2008 12:19pm edited Oct 23,2008 12:20pm
indpendents = male pot smoking republicans over the age of 35.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 12:23pm
darkwor said[orig][quote]
I'm the reason girls have sex at 15


Don't lie john, it doesn't become you.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 12:24pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
fuck and that was stated on my site... double wammy


when i was reading through this thread, my boss spied this from over my shoulder... that was some uncomfortable explaining.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 12:29pm
yeah, we all know about bigger government.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Oct 23,2008 1:11pm edited Oct 23,2008 1:17pm

bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier

this is the side of the fence that im on.
go ahead, call me a new age fag. it's no stress.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 2:42pm



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 23,2008 2:45pm
new maddox? shit i gotta get updated



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 23,2008 2:47pm
New? Old.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 2:48pm
it's old. he's not written since spring.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 3:05pm
so all our parents are working with the reverse vampires?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 3:10pm
corpus_colostomy said[orig][quote]

bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier

this is the side of the fence that im on.
go ahead, call me a new age fag. it's no stress.


do you think they are really already minting ameros? I saw that video with the guy talking about em, but i couldn't really see what he was holding that well, and obviously it could've been faked. Anyways, do you buy it? I mean, it's obviously still a very "fringe" idea, looked at by the mainstream as a conspiracy theory, as i am sure many big developments were before their unveiling. The Thing that makes me wonder is, why would we get our economy involved with mexicos? I am under the impression that that could do nothing but negative to our economy... and i doubt canada would get involved with ours on that level. Anyone feel free to correct me on this/share your thoughts.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 23,2008 3:21pm
this guy has a lot of valid points but i just don't see the amero happening. canadians want nothing to do with america the same as america wants nothing to do with mexico. the euro worked for europe because the foundations of society and economy are all very similar and has been for hundreds of years and the geography is far more compact. i only see mexico really benefiting from the amero so that's why it won't happen.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 3:24pm
....hate to say it john.... but didn't you just paraphrase what i was saying with a reference to the euro for good measure? That's ok, your my friend so i will take it as "having my back" instead of "bitting on my shit"..

haha. jk



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Oct 23,2008 3:29pm
hahahah i read your post and typed that reply all while i was on the phone with the boss. multitasking isn't always good. i got your back and i don't even know it.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 3:33pm
word yo. great minds... or in our case.... great stoned minds...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 3:41pm
you guys should kiss. I will pay you one amero for that picture.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 3:43pm
and when it is all said and done, the status quo will last through obama/mccain/etc... and dipshit americans just like us, but a little more mexican looking will be having this same shitty convo in 50 years.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 3:50pm

I heard about that on the daily show. must be true.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 23,2008 6:33pm
me and darkwor kiss.....the idea has merrit....but there's something i don't like about it.... oh yeah, he's got a dick.



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 23,2008 6:44pm
Rev, talking to you about politics is like clapping with one hand...keep taking the spoon that the liberal media feeds you and follow blindly down this path of nirvana...no more politics for me on this board becaue quite honestly NONE of the democratic liberals here want to make well though out arguments only attack whoever doesn't subscribe to their point of view...I have no problems with anyone but as soon as I show support for the unpopular candidate I'm the pariah? whatever...I'm still fucking metal...and don't care about the opinions of politics by ANYONE here...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 7:24pm
you can think/feel that way. even though I feel that it's because you can't tell me a single radio DJ who said that a vote for mccain means you hate "black people". I would say that lamp made a very good post in this thread and my posts are a B. also, josh martin's political posts are seasoned from his history watching politics and are some of the better political posts on the internet. the only conservative voices on this board are usually the blow hard unthought out crap, but maybe it's just the idiots that should keep their mouth shut who don't. (not counting the conservationist who's political posts whether grounded or c+p or not are typically well thought out). facts of the matter is that conservatives lost their way, and praise be God will lose the whitehouse this year.

whether or not obama this threadd started cause severin is an idiot and I for one think someone could write karl marx on their ballot and still love america. the fact is that they are expressing that with voting period. jjust my opinion



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 23,2008 7:58pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
you can think/feel that way. even though I feel that it's because you can't tell me a single radio DJ who said that a vote for mccain means you hate "black people". I


Why does it have to be a radio dj?? all jay did was poit out that it was ahppening to mccain supports by some obama ones...but whatever...missed you at Amon Amarth!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 8:06pm
no, he said that is you vote for obama, you are a domestic enemy of the constitution which I am not. I might not be proud of some of her government's actions, some of the flawed individuals on her surface, but I love america. though I just had a veryshort but good convo with an anti-obama person who runs the shows at the ICC and I will look up some of the facts that he mentioned against obama.

you came out to AA? didn't it make your heart feel good to see all those people at a metal show? it felt like a mid-90's palladium show (minus the cigarette smoke)



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 23,2008 8:08pm
first show i've been to in 4/5 years...was awesome!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 23,2008 9:10pm
wow.. time flies. it doesn't really seem like it was that long ago that you peeaced out of the scene. I know aa is good, but I still don't know why they draw more than morbid angel.



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 23,2008 9:12pm
i dunno...something new I guess...i'll be at more shows in the future



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Oct 23,2008 9:49pm
MAslayer. unfortunately we only have two real choices, why not go with obama.

I doubt you like illegal abortion, christian values put upon your children, an endless war in iraq, and two or three more upcoming wars in the middle east maybe with russia.

I'm voting for obama because hell, if i can't have a good president, i'll have the one that isn't sticking his hands into my pockets as deep. and honestly, mccain didnt sound too bad til palin came into the picture

i'm neither democratic or republican, but hell if there's a dude who's gonna lower my taxes ill vote for him



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 24,2008 12:19am
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
rich, please make a thread about a syndicated radio show that says that mccain hates niggers/US way of life and that you hate niggers/US way of life if you vote for him. 2 points it the person goes on a 3 hr diatribe 5 days a week about those facts.

Conservationist: that's like blaming john mccain fo ever mistake the military made since he was in the military andd must have know about it. hey, a janitor at my old building raped a kid. guess im pro-raping kids.


Can;t because it would have a right wing slant and be considered wrong by the left wing majority...the left wants it all...they go up in arms when attacked as opposed to just presenting their arguments. Really, kids getting beat up for liking mcCain or palin? If that happened to an obama supporter the molotov cocktails would be flying! So for as much as you hate Severin's rants YOUR liberal rants/McCain put downs are almost just as bad...too far to one side


Left wing majority? Sure, I guess that explains the last 8 years.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of this post.

Go vote for Jesus. Apparantly he loves you, or something.





Wasn't the problem of the last eight years that the left was too disorganized, and couldn't find a rockstar candidate after Clinton?

I mean, John Kerry... LOL, no wonder Americans picked Bush.

Doesn't mean the Left doesn't have a majority, especially since their rhetoric generally appeals to the self-pitying, dispossessed, confused, etc.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 24,2008 12:20am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I might not be proud of some of her government's actions, some of the flawed individuals on her surface, but I love america.


Me too.

I'm not a big fan of Jesus, but I think most Christians are into God and community-centric churches. The radical few are just a few.

I am however not a big fan of liberalism. I think it's anti-reality and as such more destructive than delusional religion.

Also, as you can see from the behavior of liberals here, it's fundamentalism.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 1:11am
i say meh. we're all fucked. writing in ron paul because that's who i want for president. fuck the rest.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 24,2008 1:26am
ron paul, good luck when your daughter needs an abortion, but your vote doesn't count.

conservationist: look up the meaning of liberal. 99% of you non-long posts are pretty full of social liberalism. sex out of wedlock? sodomy? pornography? all high on your list and all pretty liberal sounding.

BTW: the girl beat up over a mccain pin was just called a fake ad liar on CONSERVATIVE radio. the B on her face is backwards lol



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 1:32am
abortion isn't the only issue involved in an election though. what if the only candidates are both d-bags with shitty policies that equal each other out, but one's pro-life and one's pro-choice. what if the pro-life guy can do more for our country as a whole when you don't just look at that issue.

anyhow, just because that's the president's belief does not make it law the moment he is elected.



toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Oct 24,2008 2:28am
Ron Paul write in all the way...then, again, I live in MA so who else to I support? Not like I will ever vote for our inevitable winner: Barak O'sell-us-out-bama.



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 24,2008 6:47am
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
MAslayer. unfortunately we only have two real choices, why not go with obama.


Obama is a lot of affluent rhetoric and no substance...but that's my opinion and it would take far to long to discuss why...



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 24,2008 8:11am
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
Rev, talking to you about politics is like clapping with one hand...keep taking the spoon that the liberal media feeds you and follow blindly down this path of nirvana...no more politics for me on this board becaue quite honestly NONE of the democratic liberals here want to make well though out arguments only attack whoever doesn't subscribe to their point of view...I have no problems with anyone but as soon as I show support for the unpopular candidate I'm the pariah? whatever...I'm still fucking metal...and don't care about the opinions of politics by ANYONE here...


I have given thoughtful responses to your "why do you liberals hate Jesus so much?" questions before and you have always ignored me. Makes me you think you're just another right wing blowhard. Or you've got a crush on the Rev.

Either way, you are not fucking metal. Voting for Jesus revokes your right to headbang. Unless you're at a Stryper concert I guess.




toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 24,2008 8:13am
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
MAslayer. unfortunately we only have two real choices, why not go with obama.


Obama is a lot of affluent rhetoric and no substance...but that's my opinion and it would take far to long to discuss why...


Let's say you are correct. I still am not going to vote for Jesus.

When the republicans get the balls to throw out the religous right, (or at least tell them to shut the fuck up) then and only then will I consider supporting a republican candidate.

MCCAIN/JESUS '08!!!!



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 8:14am
don't forget zao!

no matter how you slice it people who are metal really shouldn't be giving a fuck what anyone thinks and most people forget that that includes fellow metalheads.

either way, a vote for the GOP helps sarah palin get closer to office and that's terrifying. how anyone can ignore that is beyond me.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 24,2008 8:19am
sacreligion said[orig][quote]
anyhow, just because that's the president's belief does not make it law the moment he is elected.


Not the point.
The next pres. will most likely get to put 1 or 2 new justices on the Supreme Court. When the next challenge to Roe v. Wade comes along (and it will, I don't care what Roberts said. It will come along), if it's a court with McCain appointees, start saying hello to back alley coat hanger abortions.
And abortion is just the tip of the iceberg. With all this Patriot Act bullshit excuse to infringe on our rights, tap our phones, detain people without charges etc etc a right wing court scares the shit out of me. Nothing will have a longer lasting effect on civil liberties than who the next Supreme Court justices are.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 8:26am
Good point, sir. Said thought had not occurred to me.

Did you hear about the Constitution-Free Zones they are planning for a certain distance within the border where they can basically detain anyone until they have absolute proof they are a citizen? May take me a few minutes to find the link.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 8:27am



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 8:28am
“Americans and Washington policymakers may believe that this is a problem confined to the dusty sands of Arizona or Texas, or the San Diego-Tijuana border, but it stretches far inland across the United States,” said Barry Steinhardt, director of the ACLU’s Technology and Liberty Program. “If allowed to stand, sooner or later a factory worker in southern New Hampshire, a farmer in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, or Joe the plumber outside Toledo, Ohio will find themselves trapped in a Constitution-free Zone.”



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 24,2008 9:16am
that's another thing that I will like liberals in power for. they can get rid of some of the silly bullshit that don't help. reactionary bullshit. I would hope they would be proactive instead of reactive, but as we've seen with the bailout, that's not going to happen.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Oct 24,2008 9:18am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
reactionary bullshit.


like the patriot act? i'd like to believe it was reactionary bullshit but it's all part of the plan.




toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Oct 24,2008 12:26pm
It's awesome when threads have real substance and i learn new things (politics or otherwise). I talk ALOT i know, but i don't pretend to know much about politics, trying to learn though. I feel like it's my duty as a citizen to learn what the hell is going on.



toggletoggle post by McGunk. at Oct 24,2008 12:27pm
I used to suck farts out of Chinese prostitutes asses



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 24,2008 5:33pm
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
MAslayer. unfortunately we only have two real choices, why not go with obama.


Obama is a lot of affluent rhetoric and no substance...but that's my opinion and it would take far to long to discuss why...


Let's say you are correct. I still am not going to vote for Jesus.

When the republicans get the balls to throw out the religous right, (or at least tell them to shut the fuck up) then and only then will I consider supporting a republican candidate.

MCCAIN/JESUS '08!!!!


Name one president who didn't believe in christ or some catholic denomination...you're argument is useless...and is TOTALLY not the point of where my vote lies



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Oct 24,2008 5:50pm
MASlayer said[orig][quote]


Name one president who didn't believe in christ or some catholic denomination...you're argument is useless...and is TOTALLY not the point of where my vote lies



you just proved yourself retarded


every president sans kennedy (and look what happened to him) were protestants, the complete and utter reverse in christian values of catholics

in fact when voting a catholic would be considered on equal terms with say a communist candidate, because they think the catholic president owns his allegiance to the pope and thus the country would be owned by rome



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 25,2008 7:37am
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
MASlayer said[orig][quote]


Name one president who didn't believe in christ or some catholic denomination...you're argument is useless...and is TOTALLY not the point of where my vote lies



you just proved yourself retarded


every president sans kennedy (and look what happened to him) were protestants, the complete and utter reverse in christian values of catholics

in fact when voting a catholic would be considered on equal terms with say a communist candidate, because they think the catholic president owns his allegiance to the pope and thus the country would be owned by rome


Your the retard because protestant is a catholic DENOMINATION...read the line again...if you don't know what it means look it up



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 25,2008 7:50am
obama's outspokenness about religion troubles me. I liked clinton cause he cried in church, but I never remember hearing anything about it ever. in god trust.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 27,2008 8:15am
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
MAslayer. unfortunately we only have two real choices, why not go with obama.


Obama is a lot of affluent rhetoric and no substance...but that's my opinion and it would take far to long to discuss why...


Let's say you are correct. I still am not going to vote for Jesus.

When the republicans get the balls to throw out the religous right, (or at least tell them to shut the fuck up) then and only then will I consider supporting a republican candidate.

MCCAIN/JESUS '08!!!!


Name one president who didn't believe in christ or some catholic denomination...you're argument is useless...and is TOTALLY not the point of where my vote lies


Not the point.
Clinton was a xtian. Did he let the religous right influence him? Same goes for Carter.
Now look at Reagan and the Bushes. Who started the Meese porn commision? Who was backed by Falwell and the Moral Majority? Who kisses up to the Jesus freaks for donations? etc etc etc.

SAVE THE CHILDREN! MCCAIN/JESUS '08!!!!!!!





toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 27,2008 4:19pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
obama's outspokenness about religion troubles me. I liked clinton cause he cried in church, but I never remember hearing anything about it ever. in god trust.


He's just pandering.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2008 4:29pm
I witnessed a huge (drunken) argument between my democratic hillary supporting dad's gf who is voting pailin, and my republican obama voting brother. my brother hates that bitch and my dad's gf thinks obama is a muslim



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 27,2008 4:35pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I witnessed a huge (drunken) argument between my democratic hillary supporting dad's gf who is voting pailin, and my republican obama voting brother. my brother hates that bitch and my dad's gf thinks obama is a muslim


that pretty much sums up the general consensus



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