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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cro-Mags "The Age of Quarrel" by Conservationist on Oct 14,2008 2:11pm
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toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 14,2008 2:11pm edited Oct 14,2008 2:12pm


Cro-Mags - The Age of Quarrel

Archetypal hardcore punk, the Cro-Mags thrust aside social contrivance to speak a plain truth and tell everyone else to back off, in the process helping develop the techniques and realistic, neo-Machiavellian worldview later adopted by underground bands. "The Age of Quarrel" remains perhaps the most recognizable punk album ever created, and if you listen to American death metal, you can hear its influence clearly.

Review: The Age of Quarrel and Best Wishes

This CD is out of print.

Cro-Mags The Age of Quarrel MP3 download

Cro-Mags The Age of Quarrel FLAC download




toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 14,2008 2:12pm edited Oct 14,2008 2:21pm
nevermind, am not sure what's going on -- may be Opera



toggletoggle post by starmummy at Oct 14,2008 2:17pm
One of the greatest albums of all time.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 14,2008 2:29pm
I celebrate this album



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 14,2008 2:51pm
Yeah, I hear so much cro-mags influence in Death and Repulsion and Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse and .....

Who the fuck wrote that?



toggletoggle post by josh_hates_you  at Oct 14,2008 2:55pm
anyone ever listen to "after the quarrel" or "before the quarrel"? garbage. pure fucking garbage.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 14,2008 5:03pm
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
Yeah, I hear so much cro-mags influence in Death and Repulsion and Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse and .....

Who the fuck wrote that?


You can hear it in the NYDM bands most clearly. Cannibal Corpse and Death have little relevance to death metal, and Repulsion is grindcore.



toggletoggle post by archaeon at Oct 14,2008 5:16pm
Love this cd



toggletoggle post by Seth at Oct 14,2008 6:42pm
Sick album and "We Gotta Know"



toggletoggle post by inject-now at Oct 14,2008 6:49pm
proabably my favorite hc record ever.



toggletoggle post by sinofangels-ray  at Oct 14,2008 8:20pm
Best record ever!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Oct 14,2008 8:47pm
Funny this post was created. I just finished John Joseph's book "THE EVOLUTION OF A CRO-MAGNON". Fucking AMAZING autobiography. An absolute must have book.

Age of Quarrel is the balls.



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Oct 14,2008 8:51pm
this cd is a must



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Oct 14,2008 9:39pm
archaeon said[orig][quote]
Love this cd


I'm still up for being Parris if you're still up for being Mackie...



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Oct 14,2008 11:36pm
Cro-Mags is the first hardcore band I ever heard/listened to. Brings back memories.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 15,2008 12:39am
starmummy said[orig][quote]
One of the greatest albums of all time.


Backed hard, 'nuff said.



toggletoggle post by Whoremastery  at Oct 15,2008 1:56am
CRO MAGS FUCKIN RULE!!!



toggletoggle post by degenerate bastard at Oct 15,2008 9:06am
working on a providence show ....



toggletoggle post by GodlessRob at Oct 15,2008 9:26am


Thank you sir, I have been looking for this for a long time.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 15,2008 9:46am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
Cannibal Corpse and Death have little relevance to death metal


I wish this board allowed sigs. That is priceless.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 10:39am
Please add "Chuck Schuldiner died of AIDS" and possilby "Pantera has little relevance to metal" as well, so you have a complete list of truthful heresies.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Oct 15,2008 11:17am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
Cannibal Corpse and Death have ENORMOUS relevance to death metal


Fixed!



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 15,2008 11:44am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
Please add "Chuck Schuldiner died of AIDS" and possilby "Pantera has little relevance to metal" as well, so you have a complete list of truthful heresies.


yeah yeah yeah, and Trey and David sucked each others cocks in a graveyard. who fucking cares?
Those early Death demos are death metal being invented. To say that's not relevant is retarded.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 11:46am
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
Those early Death demos are death metal being invented. To say that's not relevant is retarded.


After Master, Hellhammer, Sodom and Bathory did it, sure.

And Death's "death metal"? More like rock than the better bands. Kind of a sell-out from the beginning, except for Kam Lee's contributions.



toggletoggle post by thetruthhurts at Oct 15,2008 11:47am
POSSESSED



toggletoggle post by guy at Oct 15,2008 11:52am
degenerate%20bastard said[orig][quote]
working on a providence show ....



get it done



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 15,2008 11:58am edited Oct 15,2008 12:05pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
After Master, Hellhammer, Sodom and Bathory did it, sure.


edit, never mind, I forgot what I was arguing about.



toggletoggle post by thetruthhurts at Oct 15,2008 11:58am
it is beyond me that you guys failed to mention possessed before death. chuck even stated that his main influence was possessed.
death,even in their demo stages, were late 1st wave, early 2nd wave death metal. one of the front runners in the tampa scene though. i like death, but they arent the sole father of death metal. they are the cross-dressing uncle of death metal



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 15,2008 12:02pm
Possessed, yet another band that sounds like the Cro Mags



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 15,2008 12:04pm
"speak a plain truth and tell everyone else to back off"

I love that phrase too. Sounds like a gay pride parade.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 12:09pm
thetruthhurts said[orig][quote]
it is beyond me that you guys failed to mention possessed before death. chuck even stated that his main influence was possessed.
death,even in their demo stages, were late 1st wave, early 2nd wave death metal. one of the front runners in the tampa scene though. i like death, but they arent the sole father of death metal. they are the cross-dressing uncle of death metal


Good point.

Possessed was vital, as was Master, and Sepultura also released in 1984-1985.

Hellhammer had invented their hybrid black-death by then, and Sodom had been releasing it for a couple years. Ditto Bathory.

The real kickoff was 1982 -- Discharge, yes a punk HC band -- which basically innovated the technique others followed.

Also important to mention one solidifying influence: Slayer, in 1983.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 15,2008 12:10pm
The true fathers of death metal:




toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 15,2008 12:41pm
The Bhagavad-Gita is very, very death metal ;) at least



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 16,2008 9:35am
MaaaaaaaAAAALAALAALAALAAL-FUNCTION!!!



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 16,2008 2:42pm
Another influential band of old: Napalm Death



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Oct 16,2008 4:40pm

All you hippies better start to face reality,
All your far fetched dreams of anarchy,
Better start to see things the way they are,
Cause the way things
Are going they won't be goin' far.

World peace can't be done.
It just can't exist.
World peace can't be done.
Anarchy's a mess.

Things are gettin hectic.
It's all gonna end.
You don't know what's waitin' up around the bend.
Open your eyes, perhaps you'll realize.
If AIDS don't get ya then the warheads will.

All you hippies better start to face reality,
All your far fetched dreams of anarchy,
Better start to see things the way they are,
Cause the way things
Are going they won't be goin' far.

World peace can't be done.
It just can't exist.
World peace can't be done.
Anarchy's a mess.

Things are gettin hectic.
It's all gonna end.
You don't know what's waitin' up around the bend.
Open your eyes, perhaps you'll realize.
If AIDS don't get ya then the warheads will.

World peace can't be done!
World peace!
It just can't exist.
World peace!
World peace can't be done.
World peace!
Anarchy's a mess!
World peace can't be done!
World peace!
No it can't.
World peace!
It just won't exist.
World peace! World peace! World peace!



toggletoggle post by rotivore at Nov 27,2008 4:05pm
listening right now.....great holiday music. hard times comming yer way! this and poison ideas "feel the darkess" are the best hardcore albums ever



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 5,2010 10:53am
WON'T... show ya no mercy at all! But I'll kick ya... kick ya when yer taking ya fall!

Fucking love listening to this album at work.

SHOW YA NO MERCY AT ALL!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 5,2010 11:08am
Best album or bestest album?



toggletoggle post by blessed offal at Apr 5,2010 1:13pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Bestestest album.



toggletoggle post by DYA is @ NET at Apr 5,2010 1:36pm
Bass tone on this is so amazing. Harley's a moron but I like his style.



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 5,2010 3:37pm
DYA%20is%20@%20NET said[orig][quote]
Bass tone on this is so amazing. Harley's a moron but I like his style.


Harley almost MMA'd Kenny Lanning's ass at Ralph's after the show Kenny booked for Harley's War failed to bring in enough money to cover the guarantee he promised. Kenny started crying and Dickie the bartender had to step in & save him from getting killed. Harley was drunk off his ass... was funny shit. Awesome and influential bassist & songwriter, he should just keep his mouth shut though.



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Apr 5,2010 3:47pm
THE GREATEST HARDCORE RECORD EVER MADE
THIS LINE-UP WAS THE GREATEST LIVE BAND EVER
I WILL FIGHT YOU



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 5,2010 4:15pm


I prefer the works of Skycamefalling



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 5,2010 5:18pm
KPANZER said[orig][quote]
THE GREATEST HARDCORE RECORD EVER MADE
THIS LINE-UP WAS THE GREATEST LIVE BAND EVER
I WILL FIGHT YOU


We should fight over who likes it better.



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Apr 5,2010 5:24pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
KPANZER said[orig][quote]
THE GREATEST HARDCORE RECORD EVER MADE
THIS LINE-UP WAS THE GREATEST LIVE BAND EVER
I WILL FIGHT YOU


We should fight over who likes it better.

SHOW YOU NO MERCY AT ALL!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 5,2010 5:25pm
JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-WOW!
JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-JUH-WOW!



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Apr 5,2010 5:28pm
I'M GONNA HIT YA! HIT YA WHEN YA MOVIN' ON YOUR WAAAAAAAAAAAAY



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 5,2010 9:08pm
You come into this... WOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLD

with nothin'... except ya-self!!!!!



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Apr 5,2010 9:45pm
WALKIN" AN I"M TALKIN" AN I"M TRYIN" AN I"M LYIN" BUT I JUST AIN"T GETTIN" THROUGH TO YOU!



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Apr 5,2010 9:51pm
We should know!



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 11,2010 12:45pm
We're on the path of RIGH-TEOUS-NESS!!!!!



toggletoggle post by bloblovesmusic at Apr 11,2010 12:49pm
book the Cro-Mags for Metal Thursday or you're a pussy



toggletoggle post by tylor  at Apr 11,2010 12:57pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]

All you hippies better start to face reality,
All your far fetched dreams of anarchy,
Better start to see things the way they are,
Cause the way things
Are going they won't be goin' far.

World peace can't be done.
It just can't exist.
World peace can't be done.
Anarchy's a mess.

Things are gettin hectic.
It's all gonna end.
You don't know what's waitin' up around the bend.
Open your eyes, perhaps you'll realize.
If AIDS don't get ya then the warheads will.

All you hippies better start to face reality,
All your far fetched dreams of anarchy,
Better start to see things the way they are,
Cause the way things
Are going they won't be goin' far.

World peace can't be done.
It just can't exist.
World peace can't be done.
Anarchy's a mess.

Things are gettin hectic.
It's all gonna end.
You don't know what's waitin' up around the bend.
Open your eyes, perhaps you'll realize.
If AIDS don't get ya then the warheads will.

World peace can't be done!
World peace!
It just can't exist.
World peace!
World peace can't be done.
World peace!
Anarchy's a mess!
World peace can't be done!
World peace!
No it can't.
World peace!
It just won't exist.
World peace! World peace! World peace!





toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Apr 11,2010 2:04pm
love this album



toggletoggle post by eyehatehippies  at Apr 11,2010 10:18pm
One of my favourite hardcore albums of all time. The verse riff for "Sign of the Times" is simply one of the best ever.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 11,2010 10:19pm
definitely apreeeshed



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Apr 11,2010 11:14pm
I still wanna play guitar in a cover band that does nothing but AOQ from start to finish. Just throwing that out there.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 10,2011 12:21pm

bennyhillifier


BUMP FOR FAVORITE THREAD



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Feb 10,2011 1:27pm
Mmmhmmmm. Like a Carolina pine forest



toggletoggle post by saxlbeckett at Feb 11,2011 12:09am
Drum fill from "street justice" makes me do jump kicks.



toggletoggle post by saxlbeckett at Feb 11,2011 12:10am
Also reading john Joseph's book right now. I highly recommend it.



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