"We are deeply saddened that LeRoi Moore, saxophonist and founding member of Dave Matthews Band, died unexpectedly Tuesday afternoon, August 19, 2008, at Hollywood Presbyterian Medical Center in Los Angeles from sudden complications stemming from his June ATV accident on his farm near Charlottesville, Virginia. LeRoi had recently returned to his Los Angeles home to begin an intensive physical rehabilitation program."
Waiting to find an in depth news article. Right now it's just a headline on CNN.com and there's a brief blurb on http://www.dmband.com with a little "in memory of" graphic. Fucked.
that guy was hired gun (yes and a good sax player) for that" band" (as the rest of the band was, because Dave Matthews is a talentless ass clown and needs a super backing band that could make up for his suckness), he probably did the best coke, smoked the best weed, and layed the hottest chicks. Good for him RIP.
that guy was hired gun (yes and a good sax player) for that" band" (as the rest of the band was, because Dave Matthews is a talentless ass clown and needs a super backing band that could make up for his suckness), he probably did the best coke, smoked the best weed, and layed the hottest chicks. Good for him RIP.
LeRoi founded the band with Dave and Carter. He wasn't a hired gun. And like his music / hate his voice or not, Dave is an amazing song writer and a pretty unique rhythm guitarist. Some of the song structures that guy comes up with boggles my mind. If you try to follow along to some of his shit it really does remind me of song structures you'd find in metal. Changing to different time signatures mid chorus, cutting bars off of parts of a song to make for an interesting transition, and even just playing totally fucked up syncopated rhythms... it's all done very well and still manages to flow seamlessly. You don't notice the parts are there until you really look. I also give him/them credit for taking a mix of rock/jazz/fusion and making it so popular. Nobody was doing this when they started in the early 90's. Nobody's really doing it now. What kind of watered down pop band has a team of world class musicians (including a fucking fiddle player) playing for them and manages to mix so many styles together and do it well?
Also, disregard all radio songs for this conversation. The songs people usually know are the few gay ones that the radio plays over and over again. The same thing happens with a lot of bands. People end up hating them based off the 2 watered down hits the media gags you with.
I think people hate Dave for 1 (or 2) of 2 reasons:
1) His voice. The dude can actually sing, and sing quite well, but a lot of his songs (especially some of the more popular ones) his voice is just weird and a little hard to be liked.
2) The bro-dude frat guys and dumb whore sorority sluts that hype him out. This is one I can't stand. I don't know if I could ever go to a show of theirs. It would totally fucking ruin it for me. "Dude brah, play Ants Marching or Crash. Fucking sick brah, jagerbombs, date rape, dude."
So nobody can say Dave sucks without backing this shizzle up. Stick with "he's a faggot and I hate his voice".
It also should be noted that off-stage Dave Matthews seems to have a completely fucked up and weird sense of humor. It's pretty funny actually, considering all his lyrics are about fruity stuff.
yeah, I've seen them live a bunch of times because it's my father's favorite band. He used to be a drummer so he has a raging Carter Beauford boner...understandable.
There's a lot of legit music going on there. They put on a great show. And hating a band for fans is gay 100% of the time.
Some of the song structures that guy comes up with boggles my mind. If you try to follow along to some of his shit it really does remind me of song structures you'd find in metal. Changing to different time signatures mid chorus, cutting bars off of parts of a song to make for an interesting transition, and even just playing totally fucked up syncopated rhythms... it's all done very well and still manages to flow seamlessly. You don't notice the parts are there until you really look.
I detest mulatto penis breath for his errors as a songwriter. I find him structurally completely boring, since he's one step removed from linear but likes to play with technique to hide the fact that nothing happens in his songs. In fact, I'd characterize his songs as verse-chorus interrupted with some jazz technique and then returning to the same pattern without ever reaching any kind of peak. It's flat, soulless, and it doesn't surprise me everything I hear about the guy suggests he's a whore.
There's a lot of legit music going on there. They put on a great show. And hating a band for fans is gay 100% of the time.
unless you're talking about THE GRATEFUL DEAD. I will always love that music and always HATE the scene and all them wookie ass, trustafarian, new age fags.
srry.
pan handle for cash and then jump into the rover braaaah.
pan handle for cash and then jump into the rover braaaah.
Isn't that liberalism in a nutshell?
It was absolutely prevalent in Austin. All these little grunge/crust rocker kids looking like homeless people, walking around with their dogs, and then going home to $1500/month apartments near campus that Daddy or fuckbuddy paid for.
pan handle for cash and then jump into the rover braaaah.
Isn't that liberalism in a nutshell?
It was absolutely prevalent in Austin. All these little grunge/crust rocker kids looking like homeless people, walking around with their dogs, and then going home to $1500/month apartments near campus that Daddy or fuckbuddy paid for.
that guy was hired gun (yes and a good sax player) for that" band" (as the rest of the band was, because Dave Matthews is a talentless ass clown and needs a super backing band that could make up for his suckness), he probably did the best coke, smoked the best weed, and layed the hottest chicks. Good for him RIP.
LeRoi founded the band with Dave and Carter. He wasn't a hired gun. And like his music / hate his voice or not, Dave is an amazing song writer and a pretty unique rhythm guitarist. Some of the song structures that guy comes up with boggles my mind. If you try to follow along to some of his shit it really does remind me of song structures you'd find in metal. Changing to different time signatures mid chorus, cutting bars off of parts of a song to make for an interesting transition, and even just playing totally fucked up syncopated rhythms... it's all done very well and still manages to flow seamlessly. You don't notice the parts are there until you really look. I also give him/them credit for taking a mix of rock/jazz/fusion and making it so popular. Nobody was doing this when they started in the early 90's. Nobody's really doing it now. What kind of watered down pop band has a team of world class musicians (including a fucking fiddle player) playing for them and manages to mix so many styles together and do it well?
Also, disregard all radio songs for this conversation. The songs people usually know are the few gay ones that the radio plays over and over again. The same thing happens with a lot of bands. People end up hating them based off the 2 watered down hits the media gags you with.
I think people hate Dave for 1 (or 2) of 2 reasons:
1) His voice. The dude can actually sing, and sing quite well, but a lot of his songs (especially some of the more popular ones) his voice is just weird and a little hard to be liked.
2) The bro-dude frat guys and dumb whore sorority sluts that hype him out. This is one I can't stand. I don't know if I could ever go to a show of theirs. It would totally fucking ruin it for me. "Dude brah, play Ants Marching or Crash. Fucking sick brah, jagerbombs, date rape, dude."
So nobody can say Dave sucks without backing this shizzle up. Stick with "he's a faggot and I hate his voice".
It also should be noted that off-stage Dave Matthews seems to have a completely fucked up and weird sense of humor. It's pretty funny actually, considering all his lyrics are about fruity stuff.
dave matthews band isn't my cup of tea, but i've always had respect for them as musicians. i don't like the sound of dave's voice and i hate the stupid fans, but the guys in the band are really talented. sucks to hear this guy died.
I detest mulatto penis breath for his errors as a songwriter. I find him structurally completely boring, since he's one step removed from linear but likes to play with technique to hide the fact that nothing happens in his songs. In fact, I'd characterize his songs as verse-chorus interrupted with some jazz technique and then returning to the same pattern without ever reaching any kind of peak. It's flat, soulless, and it doesn't surprise me everything I hear about the guy suggests he's a whore.
I'm pretty positive he's not mulatto. Penis breath, maybe.
I'm glad you backed up your opinions with some legit observations, though. I guess ultimately it's a difference in opinion, though. While he's certainly not doing anything you'd need a graphing calculator to listen to structure-wise, I do give him credit for stepping away from the completely linear stuff. And again, some of his songs are a lot simpler than others. Some are far more complex. I don't find the music flat and soulless, though. At least not a good chunk of it. I doubt you'd know off hand, but I'm curious to know what songs you've heard.
I'm glad you backed up your opinions with some legit observations, though. I guess ultimately it's a difference in opinion, though. While he's certainly not doing anything you'd need a graphing calculator to listen to structure-wise, I do give him credit for stepping away from the completely linear stuff. And again, some of his songs are a lot simpler than others. Some are far more complex. I don't find the music flat and soulless, though. At least not a good chunk of it. I doubt you'd know off hand, but I'm curious to know what songs you've heard.
I had a neighbor who was into Dave Matthews Band. He played it constantly. I have no idea what songs, or albums, but anything recorded 2007 or before, I think I've heard it
There are some plusses to Dave Matthews. He can play his instrument. He likes instrumentalism.
However, he also makes hollow works. I think he seems significant only because the norm is so goddamn bad. I'm one of those intransigent bastards who would rather just listen to Yes, King Crimson and a shitload of classical than worry about what's recent. It leads to interesting insights about music.
that guy was hired gun (yes and a good sax player) for that" band" (as the rest of the band was, because Dave Matthews is a talentless ass clown and needs a super backing band that could make up for his suckness), he probably did the best coke, smoked the best weed, and layed the hottest chicks. Good for him RIP.
LeRoi founded the band with Dave and Carter. He wasn't a hired gun. And like his music / hate his voice or not, Dave is an amazing song writer and a pretty unique rhythm guitarist. Some of the song structures that guy comes up with boggles my mind. If you try to follow along to some of his shit it really does remind me of song structures you'd find in metal. Changing to different time signatures mid chorus, cutting bars off of parts of a song to make for an interesting transition, and even just playing totally fucked up syncopated rhythms... it's all done very well and still manages to flow seamlessly. You don't notice the parts are there until you really look. I also give him/them credit for taking a mix of rock/jazz/fusion and making it so popular. Nobody was doing this when they started in the early 90's. Nobody's really doing it now. What kind of watered down pop band has a team of world class musicians (including a fucking fiddle player) playing for them and manages to mix so many styles together and do it well?
Also, disregard all radio songs for this conversation. The songs people usually know are the few gay ones that the radio plays over and over again. The same thing happens with a lot of bands. People end up hating them based off the 2 watered down hits the media gags you with.
I think people hate Dave for 1 (or 2) of 2 reasons:
1) His voice. The dude can actually sing, and sing quite well, but a lot of his songs (especially some of the more popular ones) his voice is just weird and a little hard to be liked.
2) The bro-dude frat guys and dumb whore sorority sluts that hype him out. This is one I can't stand. I don't know if I could ever go to a show of theirs. It would totally fucking ruin it for me. "Dude brah, play Ants Marching or Crash. Fucking sick brah, jagerbombs, date rape, dude."
So nobody can say Dave sucks without backing this shizzle up. Stick with "he's a faggot and I hate his voice".
It also should be noted that off-stage Dave Matthews seems to have a completely fucked up and weird sense of humor. It's pretty funny actually, considering all his lyrics are about fruity stuff.
-End gayness.
Gayness shall end and that's cool man, I saw dave doin his thing with an acoustic and shit and I thought it sucked ass, however his song structure is good now that you mention it I just don't dig on it. Right... Our first bassist was big on the jam band shit and I thought Dave was a open mic/bartender dude who happened to playin one night and was "found" by some label fella(and hooked him up with a fab band? but I have never cared as much to actually research-it up. But when i was playing drums the few vid's I actually had were Carters and Pearts and that shit blew my mind, especially carter open handed technique, and his hats off to copeland, so maybe I just dislike Dave(from experience?) but those fellas are talented, I would take boyd any day of the week that emeff can play a violin Biaaatch.
that guy was hired gun (yes and a good sax player) for that" band" (as the rest of the band was, because Dave Matthews is a talentless ass clown and needs a super backing band that could make up for his suckness), he probably did the best coke, smoked the best weed, and layed the hottest chicks. Good for him RIP.
LeRoi founded the band with Dave and Carter. He wasn't a hired gun. And like his music / hate his voice or not, Dave is an amazing song writer and a pretty unique rhythm guitarist. Some of the song structures that guy comes up with boggles my mind. If you try to follow along to some of his shit it really does remind me of song structures you'd find in metal. Changing to different time signatures mid chorus, cutting bars off of parts of a song to make for an interesting transition, and even just playing totally fucked up syncopated rhythms... it's all done very well and still manages to flow seamlessly. You don't notice the parts are there until you really look. I also give him/them credit for taking a mix of rock/jazz/fusion and making it so popular. Nobody was doing this when they started in the early 90's. Nobody's really doing it now. What kind of watered down pop band has a team of world class musicians (including a fucking fiddle player) playing for them and manages to mix so many styles together and do it well?
Also, disregard all radio songs for this conversation. The songs people usually know are the few gay ones that the radio plays over and over again. The same thing happens with a lot of bands. People end up hating them based off the 2 watered down hits the media gags you with.
I think people hate Dave for 1 (or 2) of 2 reasons:
1) His voice. The dude can actually sing, and sing quite well, but a lot of his songs (especially some of the more popular ones) his voice is just weird and a little hard to be liked.
2) The bro-dude frat guys and dumb whore sorority sluts that hype him out. This is one I can't stand. I don't know if I could ever go to a show of theirs. It would totally fucking ruin it for me. "Dude brah, play Ants Marching or Crash. Fucking sick brah, jagerbombs, date rape, dude."
So nobody can say Dave sucks without backing this shizzle up. Stick with "he's a faggot and I hate his voice".
It also should be noted that off-stage Dave Matthews seems to have a completely fucked up and weird sense of humor. It's pretty funny actually, considering all his lyrics are about fruity stuff.
False. He died from injuries he sustained while riding an ATV in a clown suit while playing a sax solo and receiving a beej. Bored ain't done be nowhere near dat shit right thur.
post by W3 nli at Aug 29,2008 1:45pm
yeah it is, its right above it in my post and in the end sentence of your post.
