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returntothepit >> discuss >> Scientists find bugs that eat waste and excrete petrol by the_reverend on Jun 16,2008 10:32am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 16,2008 10:32am
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4133668.ece

I theorize that this is the last time you hear about this. except that article on page 14 about a scientist on vacation in utah disappearing with his family.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 16,2008 10:33am
those bugs have some really bad gas.









*cough*



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 16,2008 11:07am
ya, prediction: This will go ignored by the government, and the American public. Gas prices will be so expensive that 50% of our income will be wasted just buying gas. Everyone will shrug and say "Ya but what are you gonna do?"



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jun 16,2008 11:17am
Yeah, strange -- it's a US story only picked up by a UK paper? I think Mr. Pal will disappear very, very soon.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jun 16,2008 11:19am
NatioanlGeographic will press this I bet - they'll make it a federal case.
There are some companies / organizations which will push the gov't to do things.
Lets hope our next president (whomever he may be) is more OPEN to stuff like this.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 11:23am
Yeah but then we'll have the whole global warming controversy get even worse.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jun 16,2008 11:26am
I don't know but I was listening to this early 90s Swedish death metal band called Suffer and they had an EP called Global Warming and it pwns.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 16,2008 11:39am
I don't see how the global warming issue will get worse... you are turning stuff that is left over waste into oil. this is the stuff that fills land fills, pollutes our water, clogs our rivers.



toggletoggle post by dertoxia   at Jun 16,2008 11:46am
the only reason i can see that the US gov't wouldn't be interested in this is that it pretty much invalidates us having troops in the middle east. If we could produce our own oil here domestically in the volume that we need then there would be no need for OPEC oil.

The only problem there is i think we're the number one consumer of middle east oil unless China has overtaken us. So if we stop buying their oil then their economy's will probably crumble.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 11:52am
Because half of the people arguing about global warming blame it on large V8 engines, mid sized V6 engines, diesels, and anything that puts out less than 67457984023 mpg, most of which being the kind of cars/trucks I'm into. Basically, everyone's starting to go green and get hybrids and electric cars and for them there's no turning back now.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jun 16,2008 11:53am
"I wish the industrial revolution never happened."



toggletoggle post by dertoxia   at Jun 16,2008 12:00pm
well from what i've been reading, greenhouse gases from cars is not nearly as big of a problem as we've been mislead to believe. if you think about it. the earth is fucking huge. we must be pretty egotistical to thing that we can do anything short of nuking the planet to change shit. we just dont have that much of an impact on the planet as we think we do.

definately local environmental stuff like recycling and pollution regulation is of course super important but on a global scale......cmon we just don't matter that much.

so to me the problem with big v8's and gas guzzlers isn't an environmental problem with them pollution...it's just that they're sucking down gas that we just don't have enough of. if these bug shits can be figured out then we might not have that problem.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jun 16,2008 12:01pm
dertoxia said[orig][quote]
well from what i've been reading, greenhouse gases from cars is not nearly as big of a problem as we've been mislead to believe. if you think about it. the earth is fucking huge. we must be pretty egotistical to thing that we can do anything short of nuking the planet to change shit. we just dont have that much of an impact on the planet as we think we do.


That makes so much no sense. Sounds like some EXTREMELY wishful thinking.



toggletoggle post by dertoxia   at Jun 16,2008 12:09pm
i just fail to see how we matter on a global scale when entire cities can be wiped out in a matter of hours from a hurricane or tornado or wildfire or what have you.

ya i agree that if we don't watch ourselves then we can definitely destroy the planet beyond repair. but i just don't think we're really as important on an ecological level as we think we are.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 16,2008 12:12pm
immortal13: that argument is like saying to a guy that lives off eating his own feces "there's too much poop around here" cause no there isn't, he eats it all.



toggletoggle post by dertoxia   at Jun 16,2008 12:18pm
best analogy ever



toggletoggle post by Mess at Jun 16,2008 12:20pm



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 12:23pm
I suppose. Plus, if you think about it...gas engines emit carbon from the exhuast, which is one plants need to breathe, so the amount of plants and trees and shit around the world has grown pretty significantly more than anything. I'm just talking about those shitheads that wanna feel like they're doing something important (not directed at you Rev, because I know you're not one of them hybrid drivers that think they're top shit).



toggletoggle post by dertoxia   at Jun 16,2008 12:25pm
yeah plants breath C02 but humans die from it



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 12:29pm
Yes, but that's exactly what I mean. We inhale O2 and exhale CO2, while the plants do the opposite, giving us the O2 we need to survive and getting rid of most of the harmful CO2. It's a cycle my friend.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 16,2008 12:29pm
I just made a myspace bulletin about it. I think it's this sort of grass roots awareness that will propel this idea into.... *sigh* into inevitable obscurity when it is completely ignored by a bunch of self absorbed assholes with the intellect of 12 year old girls.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 16,2008 12:32pm
we exhale O2 and CO2. plants actually would "breathe" CO2 as well. they just produce more 02 from sugar synthesis than they burn.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 16,2008 12:34pm
it's called the kreb cycle, look it up!



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 12:35pm
That too. I'm not that great at science so I'm going by what the kids who did decent in high school gave me for answers on the homework that was about 3 months late.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 12:37pm
I'd rather just rebuild a small block and put it in my truck.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 16,2008 12:42pm
global warming is caused by cows, which is why vegitarians are more to blame than anyone.



toggletoggle post by Mess at Jun 16,2008 12:56pm
the rev is teh rev



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jun 16,2008 12:59pm edited Jun 16,2008 1:00pm
dertoxia said[orig][quote]
yeah plants breath C02 but humans die from it


no we dont die from it. we just cant use it.

everyone read wikipedia on global warming

this shit solves the co2 problem but its mostly unrelated to global warming.

how it solves it:
plants use co2, cars make co2... the amount of co2 the plants use in this process is more than the amount the fuel creates.

immortal : the whole big engine thing is that old cars do not burn as efficiently as new cars... so you get things like co, and carbon in the air. they put more hydrogen atoms in higher octane by mixing in certain chemicals to make it burn slower and more thoroughly. as in it wont detonate quicker when its not meant to. it makes the engine run cooler contrary to popular thought and has less waste. so if your running your skylark throw in some premium and itll run cooler and cleaner and more expensive for those chemicals.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jun 16,2008 1:01pm
someone download the article and keep it incase it goes away.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jun 16,2008 1:16pm
I don't trust wikipedia at all, considering anyone can edit the entries on there.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Jun 16,2008 1:24pm
Meh, the term global warming sucks. In some places we are cooling, in some warming, its more like global instability.

The major thing I am afraid about, as paranoid as it sounds because it could never happen in my lifetime, is that ou forestation could become so depleted that the amount of oxygen in the air could decrease so much creating new life forms who imbibe whatever else dominates the air's saturation and create new, or not humanly useable byproducts. If this sounds weird, just remember that the earth (as far as science knows now) was most likely a carbon-rich environment, which created primitive plant life, whose byproduct was oxygen, hence allowing organisms such as us and many others to exist.

Freaky.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jun 16,2008 1:37pm
immortal13 said[orig][quote]
I don't trust wikipedia at all, considering anyone can edit the entries on there.


its better than what everyone is reading now ;)



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jun 16,2008 3:02pm
I can't wait to tear off one sleeve of my leather jacket and screw around the desert killing mutants for gas and canned goods.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 16,2008 3:32pm
ONE MAN ENTERS, TWO MEN LEAVE
er..
wait a second.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Jun 16,2008 3:40pm
kind of a crazy idea but eventually they could make this so it fits in the back yard, and you could grow your own gas. onlyproblem with this idea is that it would probably kill the market so the company wouldn't do it, unless they charged for distillation, at distillation stations. 50 years from now it will be "i can't believe it cost $4 for distillation per gallon!"(over half that would be taxes)

i agree with dertoxia. Humans have always thought they were king shit, the next ice age will have something to say about that.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jun 16,2008 7:45pm
oil is not the problem, it's the car.

3/4s of every dollar in america is spent on cars. That is to say, car repairs, oil, tune-ups, roads, road repairs, bridges, parking lots, car parts, car bills... etc etc.

Because of cars we have urban sprawl, because of urban sprawl we have deforestation and air-pollution from vehicles.

the answer is centralization of populations and planned cities

but that would piss off all the people who want to live in suburbs and own big tracks of land



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jun 16,2008 7:56pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
oil is not the problem, it's the car.

3/4s of every dollar in america is spent on cars. That is to say, car repairs, oil, tune-ups, roads, road repairs, bridges, parking lots, car parts, car bills... etc etc.

Because of cars we have urban sprawl, because of urban sprawl we have deforestation and air-pollution from vehicles.

the answer is centralization of populations and planned cities

but that would piss off all the people who want to live in suburbs and own big tracks of land


Fuck you.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jun 17,2008 11:26pm
Put it up there with that scientist that discovered you can use a certain radio wave frequency to make salt water burst into flames.



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