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returntothepit >> discuss >> Varg Vikernes: gay Christian with a Jewish grandparent by Conservationist on Jun 2,2008 1:14pm
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toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 2,2008 1:14pm
Fact: Grandmother OLGA KVISLING-MARTENBERG was half Jewish on her mother's side. OLGA was Varg's maternal grandmother, making him Jewish by Jewish law.

Fact: Varg has, in prison, been converted to a Russian Pan-Aryanist National Bolshevik outlook, in which Orthodox Christianity is seen as the savior of white Europe (including Russia, in his view). He is now a Christian.

...maybe that'll keep you for awhile...



toggletoggle post by aril at Jun 2,2008 1:22pm
Wouldn't be surprised. There's probably a root/source to his personal war against certain things.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 2,2008 1:28pm
FACT: i could not care less.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jun 2,2008 1:53pm
If you read the interviews with Varg over the years it looks like one big contradiction.

He's one big crack pot theory with some good music.

Russians are a real miserable lot so I could see how this could be grim. Hahaha. Whatever... Fuckin Fag



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jun 2,2008 3:28pm
OMG you mean he is not tr00 and kvlt???

how disapointing.


No not really.

Jail has a way of making people different, no matter where it is, eh?



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jun 2,2008 3:35pm
powerkok said[orig][quote]
OMG you mean he is not tr00 and kvlt???

how disapointing.


No not really.

Jail has a way of making people different, no matter where it is, eh?


The orthodox christianity of Russia is weird. It's not like American christianity where it's an actual belief in a deity. They percieve it as the glue that holds their society together and it preserves the hierarchy of class. It's almost atheistic. Hell, maybe it is atheistic...



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 2,2008 4:09pm



toggletoggle post by craigforacurse  at Jun 2,2008 4:25pm
wow, this conservationist guy cares waaaaaaaaay too much about other people in black and/or death metal. who cares if chuck was gay? who cares if varg is jewish/christian? who cares that puff daddy owns glaceau? i still will drink vitamin water because their delicious.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jun 2,2008 5:13pm
LOL @ Varg and kitty.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jun 2,2008 5:16pm
craigforacurse said[orig][quote]
wow, this conservationist guy cares waaaaaaaaay too much about other people in black and/or death metal. who cares if chuck was gay? who cares if varg is jewish/christian? who cares that puff daddy owns glaceau? i still will drink vitamin water because their delicious.



OOOH watch those calories in those waters bruh.....youd be suprised how many are in there!!




toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jun 2,2008 5:16pm
P diddy wants to fatten white america!!!



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 2,2008 6:39pm
craigforacurse said[orig][quote]
wow, this conservationist guy cares waaaaaaaaay too much about other people


Not caring about other people = ruled by their decisions.



toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Jun 2,2008 7:32pm
Fuckin' Jew....



toggletoggle post by Neverpurified nli at Jun 2,2008 9:01pm
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 2,2008 9:13pm
Jews write the best metal, as do African-Americans.

Suffocation, Burzum, Blasphemy, Death



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jun 2,2008 9:14pm
Neverpurified%20nli said[orig][quote]
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal


A-fucking-men. I never got the "awesomeness" that is Burzum. Whatever, he did some fucked up shit for the "scene" back in the 90's, but seriously, how can people honestly like that shitty music? Is it cool and kvlt to like it just because everyone else does? That in itself is a sad trend with the metal genre. "OOOOH I like it cause everyone else likes it." "OOOOH I hate it cause everyone else hates it." Fuck you and the trend fucking horse you rode in on. Like what you like, hate what you don't.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jun 2,2008 10:13pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
Neverpurified%20nli said[orig][quote]
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal


A-fucking-men. I never got the "awesomeness" that is Burzum. Whatever, he did some fucked up shit for the "scene" back in the 90's, but seriously, how can people honestly like that shitty music? Is it cool and kvlt to like it just because everyone else does? That in itself is a sad trend with the metal genre. "OOOOH I like it cause everyone else likes it." "OOOOH I hate it cause everyone else hates it." Fuck you and the trend fucking horse you rode in on. Like what you like, hate what you don't.


That is the way you percieve it. I started listening to Burzum in the early nineties when no one knew who the fuck Burzum was. I ordered it on cassette from Full moon productions when he had about 3 items on his distro list.The difference between Burzum and the your typical death metal band is the music is very trance inducing. It is done on a subconscious level... Some people jus don't get it.

Burzum is/was an atavism... A reflection of the primordial. Instinct over this so called "age of reason".



toggletoggle post by Hahaha at Jun 2,2008 10:20pm
Pires said[orig][quote]
Neverpurified%20nli said[orig][quote]
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal


A-fucking-men. I never got the "awesomeness" that is Burzum. Whatever, he did some fucked up shit for the "scene" back in the 90's, but seriously, how can people honestly like that shitty music? Is it cool and kvlt to like it just because everyone else does? That in itself is a sad trend with the metal genre. "OOOOH I like it cause everyone else likes it." "OOOOH I hate it cause everyone else hates it." Fuck you and the trend fucking horse you rode in on. Like what you like, hate what you don't.


All this coming from some geek in a fucking metalcore band. Talk about sad trends...



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Jun 2,2008 11:18pm
Hahaha said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
Neverpurified%20nli said[orig][quote]
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal


A-fucking-men. I never got the "awesomeness" that is Burzum. Whatever, he did some fucked up shit for the "scene" back in the 90's, but seriously, how can people honestly like that shitty music? Is it cool and kvlt to like it just because everyone else does? That in itself is a sad trend with the metal genre. "OOOOH I like it cause everyone else likes it." "OOOOH I hate it cause everyone else hates it." Fuck you and the trend fucking horse you rode in on. Like what you like, hate what you don't.


All this coming from some geek in a fucking metalcore band. Talk about sad trends...


HAHAHAHA. BACKED.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 2,2008 11:49pm
CNV said[orig][quote]
Burzum is/was an atavism... A reflection of the primordial. Instinct over this so called "age of reason".


Civilization is its own enemy: a tolerance of parasites.

Good observation.



toggletoggle post by fleshfries at Jun 3,2008 1:44am
How can someone be half Jewish? I thought it was a religion, not an ethnicity...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 3,2008 1:53am
he's got moobs.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jun 3,2008 2:36am
fleshfries said[orig][quote]
How can someone be half Jewish? I thought it was a religion, not an ethnicity...


Jews are a tribe or blood line. Semites



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jun 3,2008 2:45am
Israel is a ethnocentric and nationalist state. Aspects of Judaism espouse the superiority of Jews to the other "inferior" races. (aka Gentiles or non jews)

Remind you of something?



toggletoggle post by mikeofdecrepitude at Jun 3,2008 7:21am
I don't know how anyone can say they like good music and not like Burzum. Det Som Engang var to Filosofem especially.



toggletoggle post by GUY at Jun 3,2008 7:34am
CNV said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
Neverpurified%20nli said[orig][quote]
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal


A-fucking-men. I never got the "awesomeness" that is Burzum. Whatever, he did some fucked up shit for the "scene" back in the 90's, but seriously, how can people honestly like that shitty music? Is it cool and kvlt to like it just because everyone else does? That in itself is a sad trend with the metal genre. "OOOOH I like it cause everyone else likes it." "OOOOH I hate it cause everyone else hates it." Fuck you and the trend fucking horse you rode in on. Like what you like, hate what you don't.


I started listening to Burzum in the early nineties when no one knew who the fuck Burzum was.

DID YA REALLY



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 3,2008 9:15am
fleshfries said[orig][quote]
How can someone be half Jewish? I thought it was a religion, not an ethnicity...


It's a culture, ethnicity and religion, wrapped into one -- the old school way.


According to the Tel Aviv University historian, Prof. Shlomo Sand, author of “Matai ve’ech humtza ha’am hayehudi?� ("When and How the Jewish People Was Invented?�; Resling, in Hebrew), the queen’s tribe and other local tribes that converted to Judaism are the main sources from which Spanish Jewry sprang. This claim that the Jews of North Africa originated in indigenous tribes that became Jewish - and not in communities exiled from Jerusalem - is just one element of the far- reaching argument set forth in Sand’s new book.

In this work, the author attempts to prove that the Jews now living in Israel and other places in the world are not at all descendants of the ancient people who inhabited the Kingdom of Judea during the First and Second Temple period. Their origins, according to him, are in varied peoples that converted to Judaism during the course of history, in different corners of the Mediterranean Basin and the adjacent regions. Not only are the North African Jews for the most part descendants of pagans who converted to Judaism, but so are the Jews of Yemen (remnants of the Himyar Kingdom in the Arab Peninsula, who converted to Judaism in the fourth century) and the Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe (refugees from the Kingdom of the Khazars, who converted in the eighth century).

http://www.nazi.org/nazi/news/archives/00001665.html




toggletoggle post by Pires at Jun 3,2008 9:28am edited Jun 3,2008 9:29am
Hahaha said[orig][quote]
Pires said[orig][quote]
Neverpurified%20nli said[orig][quote]
I think we've all forgotten the most important thing here.....


Varg writes terrible music and Burzum is god awful shitty black metal


A-fucking-men. I never got the "awesomeness" that is Burzum. Whatever, he did some fucked up shit for the "scene" back in the 90's, but seriously, how can people honestly like that shitty music? Is it cool and kvlt to like it just because everyone else does? That in itself is a sad trend with the metal genre. "OOOOH I like it cause everyone else likes it." "OOOOH I hate it cause everyone else hates it." Fuck you and the trend fucking horse you rode in on. Like what you like, hate what you don't.




All this coming from some geek in a fucking metalcore band. Talk about sad trends...


i'm not in a band. sucka!



toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Jun 3,2008 9:36am
Nazi.org > Lexis Nexis



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 3,2008 10:34am
CNV said[orig][quote]
He's one big crack pot theory with some good music.


that's exactly how i feel. i could care less about anything he stands for, just keep releasing material.



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