should I run first and then lift, or vice versa?

ATTN: Arrowhead

i've always read run first.

I only run because I have no intention of being strong

yeah, i should point out that i weigh a buck 30

lift one day
run the next
alternate

i do weights first then i run.

I just got back from a jog, breathing all heavy, fuck am I out of shape.

mess is right

1. Do a massive steroid cycle
2. Train hard, lift heavy
3. ??????
4. ROID RAGE

Depends what your goals are. If you want to put on muscle while losing fat, it's kind of tough to do but the best way is to lift first and then run. The problem with running is it takes more out of you than lifting (unless you're an insane powerlifter) so you do it after while your levels are still high.

a couple people got the right answer: run first, lift after. every day that you work out you want to get your heart rate up and maintain it for at least 20 minutes. what your heartrate should be depends on age and weight.

also, I recommend against running. try an eliptical machine. getting your upper body involved in your cardio increases the results for your heart by 200%.

what about running for like 30/40 mins....someone told me that 20/30mins is all you should max. is it bad to do more before lifting

p.s. - ignore rev and mess. you should in fact be doing cardio on you workout days as well as doing cardio on off days. figure 20 - 30 minutes on days you lift, and do an hour or more on your off day. also make sure to take a day off between lifting, BUT ITS OK TO DO CARDIO EVERY DAY!

basically maintainig a constant heartrate is the key. if you are doing anaerobic (sic?) exercise then you may well need more than 30 minutes. remember, this cardio is not for burning off your fat ass, it's for your heart. 20 minutes is all you need. if you want to burn more calories do additional cardio after you lift.

ok it wasnt put to me that way, i was doing like 40min or 4miles whichever came first on a elliptical then id lift on 4 different machines.

but since everyone was throwing shit out there i figured id ask too

pp ps fag... everyBODY's differnet. all you're doing is burning muscle tissue if you do both (running and lifting) in one day. if you have the TIME in your schedule per week, you should try to alternate cardio and muscle building in between days. muscles need rest, your heart is a muscle too. also you should try to lift between a half an hour to an hour everytime you lift. anymore than that, you're burning muscle.
if you don't have TIME in your schedule, than sure, you can do both in a day but don't over do it. and yeah, the elypto is a very good alternate to jogging/treadmill.

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Arrow is right....if your lifting at all, you need some sort of aerobic warm-up (15 min or so) to stretch and loosen as well as boost the heart. this will definitely help against injury, fatigue, and soreness afterwards, and will build muscle a bit faster too.

Actually, we're all built pretty much the same. I already explained this pretty well, but if you'd like to argue about it now that I'm at home in front of a real keyboard, I've got a few hours to spare.

Again: Running is bad. Period. Less results, and it's way too high impact. Elipto is not an alternative, it should be a first choice. As I said, getting your upper body involved in your cardio greatly increases results.

Also, as someone just kindly restated for me with more clarity: Cardio is a MUST before working out. A minimum of 20 minutes at a sustained heartrate. This gets the heart going and delivers oxygen (among other things) to your muscles as you work out.

P.P.S. - if you're running outdoors and eliptical is not an option, get a couple small dumbells to use while you run. I cannot emphasize enough how much difference it makes to get your upper body going while you do cardio.

P.P.P.S - If you want to take it a step further, add in some anerobic excercise. My personal preference is to get on the bike and push myself all out for a few minutes, burn out, slow down, and repeat. This is VERY good for you, but remember, it will not replace keeping your heart rate at a sustained rate for 20 minutes. If you're not sure what your heartrate should be, most treadmills at the gym will have a little chart on them that gives you a target rate based on age and body weight.

arrowhead ftw

i'm more of an outdoor activities type of person though...never really been a fan of the gym