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returntothepit >> discuss >> boycott jarrods place by subjugate on Jan 7,2004 7:58am
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toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 7:58am
at all cost



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2004 8:20am
yeah, that place sucks.
but I assume there is a different, more current reason taht I don't know about?



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 8:35am
well the short of it is

originally were were 3 to last on the meliah show
that show got postponed cause of snow
the rescedualed date came up and i inquired if we were on it still
he said yea but that he was moving band X to our spot cause they sold 90tix(keep in mind he has changed the # they have sold inevery e mail i have got from him about this so my guess is he lieing) and he wanted to have em on later to make sure that their fans got to see em
naturally i was pissed over this and posted this under my show posts in message boards I UNDERSTAND IF YOU DON'T COME TO THIS SHOW JARROD'S IS GAY
some one sent him the link to the message and the war began



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2004 8:42am
what, did he boot you off for a messageboard post?
that inbreed, $$ hungry, non-promoting fuck can read now?
if he can, send him this
"hey jarrod, try PROMOTING shows. You don't make $$ being a dick hole. you make it by promoting and having good shows or people won't come to your shit hole.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=promoting
there's a link for you."



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 8:44am edited Jan 7,2004 12:39pm
"You have never done good at this venue but, I still gave you dates and went thru it with you guys regardless of your ability to sell tickets and the quailty of your performances."


"I shouldn't have to explain my system to you. This is the way we do it. Other clubs have their ways we have ours."


"I sent you the first letter asking if you thought it was fair to give them "bandX" a 10:00pm slot because of the amount of tickets they sold and to make sure that thier fans all could get there in time to see them."


"I would have done the same for any other band that worked that hard. They (band X) were in 3 times to get tix. they sold there first 80 and now
they might have 30 more. Your set time wasn't that bad to be taking like a
child and writing a poor message like the one you wrote about the venue (
also, telling people pretty much not to go to the show). I still gave you a
9pm slot for 45 min."


"Please drop off or send out tickets and any money in check or money
order to Jarrod's address below within 7 days. a copy will be on file of this
letter for any disputes about the tickets."

THIS IS THE E MAIL THAT STARTED IT ALL

"You are still on the show. I just moved your spot because band X has
sold 85 tickets and now they want more. I think it is fair to move them up a
spot to make sure that all thier fans get to see them.

Jarrod

ps. Do you still want to play the show ?? Your set time is 9:00pm and
is still a good 40 min set"

"ou guys are scheduled and are listed on the site. The new date is Jan
31st. I have moved you to the opening slot at 9:00pm only because Norseth
sold 90tickets and I thought that it was necessary to move them up a slot to makesure that all their ticket holders would make it to see them.

JArrod
ps. The line-up is posted on the site www.jarrodsplace.com"



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 8:55am
HAHA NICE REV



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 7,2004 9:01am
may jarrods burn to the ground.



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 9:03am
WITH HIM IN IT



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 7,2004 9:03am
wait, does that mean you have to give him money from the tickets that you sold?

can't you give people back their money so jarrod's doesn't get squat besides his tickets back?





toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 9:07am edited Jan 7,2004 9:08am
YES IT DOES

NOT REALLY CAUSE I SOLD A FEW AT SHOWS TO STRANGERS AND ANOTHER FRIEND OF THE BAND WAS SELLING SOME FOR ME



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 9:09am
THE POLICY THERE IS THIS YOU HAVE TO SELL A MINIUM OF 25 TIX TO GET ANY MONEY BACK
WE SOLD 22 FOR A SHOW AND WAS TOLD SORRY YOU HAVE TO SELL 25 TO GET PAID EVEN THO WE HAD WALK INS



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 9:12am
i was also told by a person from a band on this show and i'll "" him "tell jim to buy the tix and give em away and jarrod will think they sold them"

at $10 per tic YEA RIGHT i have $180 i don't know what to do with



toggletoggle post by Disciple  at Jan 7,2004 9:16am
That dude's a pea brain. We had a show a couple of years ago down there. I remember it was Sunday of a holiday weekend but I forget which holiday. Something like Patriots Day or one of those. So we show up to the club with all of our gear in tow to find out the show had been cancelled. No call, no email. The reason for the cancellation was stupid too. He figured that since it was the Sunday of a holiday weekend, there would be no draw. I think maybe he and some of his staff wanted the day off. Anyways, he 'makes it up to us' by giving us an opening slot for a national emo rock band and three emo and/or radio nu-metal local bands. The national wanked for so long during the soundcheck (over an hour and a half!) that our set got reduced to 15 minutes. ...and, we had to scramble during setup and breakdown because we were 'on the clock'. Needless to say, we've never been back. Fuck that place.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2004 9:22am
question: has jarrod's ever had a "draw"?
all the shows I've seen there had ~12 people.
the max ammount of people being when I saw hirudinea there oct 2002.
they had more people there than anal blast.



toggletoggle post by Joe/notcommon   at Jan 7,2004 9:23am
Jarrod's place is ridiculous.
Tell him you are keeping the tickets and the money.
You didn't sign any contract with him, so he can't do anything.
It would be awesome if BOE was the band that changed Jarrod's policy.

Their sound guy sucks, the last show I ever booked there was Disengaged, Red Invasion, and Kevorkian's Angels.
This was right after I signed KA, but before their CD had come out and before I had completely taken over Boston so I just took shows I could get.

Each band was suppose to get 45 minutes.

Disengaged got 16 minutes, then the gay sound guy (who is in Beyond Repair and can die slowly) turned off their mics and turned on background music. Jim videotaped it so I can prove how short their set was. He stopped them in the middle of a song.

Red Invasion played for a little over 25 minutes, only because the sound guy was nowhere to be found and shut them off as soon as he was done taking it in the ass.

Kevorkian's Angels got about 20 minutes, when they asked the guy not to keel flashing the strobe light he got mad and keep turning their vocal mics off, and when they went to do a Ramones cover he turned them off.

That was the last time I decided to ever do anything there, and I also refuse to ever do anything with Beyond Repair.



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 11:25am
i have seen shows with decent draws there but nuthing all too great



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 11:26am
did i ? i don't remember but that sounds like jarrods

i think if he's there and dosen't like a band he has the sound guy stop em


Joe/notcommon said:
Jarrod's place is ridiculous.
Tell him you are keeping the tickets and the money.
You didn't sign any contract with him, so he can't do anything.
It would be awesome if BOE was the band that changed Jarrod's policy.

Their sound guy sucks, the last show I ever booked there was Disengaged, Red Invasion, and Kevorkian's Angels.
This was right after I signed KA, but before their CD had come out and before I had completely taken over Boston so I just took shows I could get.

Each band was suppose to get 45 minutes.

Disengaged got 16 minutes, then the gay sound guy (who is in Beyond Repair and can die slowly) turned off their mics and turned on background music. Jim videotaped it so I can prove how short their set was. He stopped them in the middle of a song.

Red Invasion played for a little over 25 minutes, only because the sound guy was nowhere to be found and shut them off as soon as he was done taking it in the ass.

Kevorkian's Angels got about 20 minutes, when they asked the guy not to keel flashing the strobe light he got mad and keep turning their vocal mics off, and when they went to do a Ramones cover he turned them off.

That was the last time I decided to ever do anything there, and I also refuse to ever do anything with Beyond Repair.





toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2004 11:27am
I don't know if I believe you.
maybe I just always see your band there and you refuses to buy tickets and give them away to fill the room.

just think, milwaukee metalfest is $1000 for a 20 minute set, playing next to a bunch of the shittiest bands ever.



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 11:30am
i sold 22 for a show there one time the rest i never bothered

triphammer rented out the place and it was real full the fullest i have ever saw it

jarrod is a tool





toggletoggle post by blue  at Jan 7,2004 11:31am
milwaukee metalfest = 10 great bands randomly placed in between some of the worst power metal ive ever heard in my life.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2004 11:35am
I was there for like 13 or something.
and you hit the nail on the head.
the worst power metal that should have quit life years ago, but their friends and parents gave them $1000 to hit the stage.

a band renting it out... see, someone else does the work and that happens.
jarrod needs to sell that place to sinpromo or mark fucking richards or joe or some one that will have bitchin' shows there all the time.
not gay-wad no-promo stuff.



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 11:41am edited Jan 7,2004 11:57am
herers some hilites of a replyi just sent him

-------------------------------------------------

about the post-
and you shouldn't have switched us

he said what if he put b.o.e is gay on his site -
be my guest

i'm unprofessional-
and so are you

i don't know how to promote a show-
i know how to promote shows i have been doing it for
15+ years

he wants tix back with money from the sold tix-
i'm giving em to treasa as she was the one who picked
em up for us and signed for em - i'm heartbroken
really NOT


he said he never saw me promoting the show there -
yea 1000 1/4 and 500 8.5x11 apperantly you wern't at
the maiden tribute show and teratism show then cause i
was and handed out plenty there

his original e mail was i'm switching not he is it ok if-
keep your lies straight you told me NOT ASKED i still
have the e mail

he said he found the post-
again keep your lies straight you said you found it
altho i already knew that was a lie

his reference to the band X and how many tix they sold-
you keep changing how many they sold and how many
times there were there to get tix you outta write down
what you lie about it make it more belivable when you
are consistent

him moving the start time to 9pm but still keeping us first-
we wanted our original spot where we were originally
(i was told you didn't want us on the show in the
first place when it was being booked)


again i am giving the tix to treasa on sat you will
get em on the 31st when she shows up at the show i'm
not mailing em to you cause you arn't worth the
postage or the time i have wasted enough of my time
and effort with you and your club and for what to be
kicked off the show - my dispute would be not being
copensated for the work i already did promoting the
show




toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 7,2004 3:17pm
I agree Jim. I saw you guys with Gortory/Wasteform this summer down there. It's the only club I've been to where it feels like the staff hates the bands. The whole selling tickets shit sucks enough as it is and it's queer that they make it a competition to determine lineup spots.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jan 7,2004 3:54pm
Right on REV! I wish I had a place where I could just book a show whenever the hell I feel like. Due to me being a college student, I almost never have money, so putting on just BEF is a hard time each year. I say we get a crew together, go down to Jarrod's, and force him to sign the deal over to people who will actually be able to do something with that place...maybe even cover up BARE WIRES! Fucking unprofessional shitheads I tell ya.

Here's my Jarrod's Place story...

2 summers ago, Upon Crimson Wings played a show there. At first we were added on to some show they were having, just local metal bands. A week or 2 before the show, after selling some tickets and promoting the shit out of it, we got word that the show was to be rescheduled. Joel, the sound guy/bookie at the time, emailed me and said if I wanted, I could have FULL control of booking, so I took the duty. Got like 7 bands that could have gotten at least like 150 kids in there, then I get an email that says "Ok you and If Tomorrow Comes will be playing with these rock bands...you can get 1 more band on there." That pissed me off, after I had promised bands they could play. I gave him some shit, but not in a bitchy way...just trying to make him feel like a putz, heh heh. So then, the fucking day before the show he emails me and says: "Due to Father's Day weekend we're going to have to reschedule the show. Our staff wants it off and I didn't even think of it." We FINALLY got to play the fucking show (almost 3 months after the original date), and the sound guy had no clue what he was doing, turned the bass monitor all the way up so our drummer could only hear bass, there were bare wires everywhere, fucked up micstands that he accused ME of fucking up, and not to mention that guy had the WORST breath EVER.

Hey jarrod's place....I puke upon your underpants.

the_reverend said:
I was there for like 13 or something.
and you hit the nail on the head.
the worst power metal that should have quit life years ago, but their friends and parents gave them $1000 to hit the stage.

a band renting it out... see, someone else does the work and that happens.
jarrod needs to sell that place to sinpromo or mark fucking richards or joe or some one that will have bitchin' shows there all the time.
not gay-wad no-promo stuff.





toggletoggle post by Dave Maggot at Jan 7,2004 4:10pm
got a bit wordy there didn't ya mr.richards? i estimate the people to read it all will be about 1



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Jan 7,2004 4:11pm
I read it.



toggletoggle post by Dave Maggot at Jan 7,2004 4:13pm
didn't the fucker watch me throw the mic stand at that barrier gate thing? he blamed you? hahaha.


......aw fuck i read it.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jan 7,2004 4:19pm
hahahha, you bastardly dave maggot, i'll get you if it's the last thing i DOOOOOOOOO



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2004 4:21pm
I read it too



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jan 7,2004 4:23pm
ooo...that's number 3, or 4 if you count me.



toggletoggle post by Dave Maggot at Jan 7,2004 4:46pm
ooh well it looks like you get..the...gold medal for..being....aw fuck it!



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 7,2004 4:48pm
i read it just now

the bad breathe part...ewww gross



toggletoggle post by Dave Maggot at Jan 7,2004 5:35pm
yeah and he kept on having to tell me stuff about the show, so he tried to get close, and i thought i was gonna puke in his face



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 7,2004 8:51pm
personally i don't buy any of the crap he was telling me if you read the inital e mail i think he made the switch to make us drop off i was told by somone who works there that he dosen't like b.o.e. e even accused b.o.e. for trashing the dressing room when anal blast played there and we never even went in it

figure that out?

BornSoVile said:
I agree Jim. I saw you guys with Gortory/Wasteform this summer down there. It's the only club I've been to where it feels like the staff hates the bands. The whole selling tickets shit sucks enough as it is and it's queer that they make it a competition to determine lineup spots.





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