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returntothepit >> discuss >> drum machine grind is gay by eric militianary on Nov 7,2007 10:28pm
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toggletoggle post by eric militianary at Nov 7,2007 10:28pm
that is all



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Nov 7,2007 10:33pm
Agreed.



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Nov 7,2007 10:38pm
oversimplification
indeed there is alot of crap within this genre, because like drum machine black metal, any idiot thinks he can do it in his moms basement
HOWEVER theres a few bands that do it right
check out:
catasexual urge motivation / vampiric motives
misogynist pussyslasher
the secret life
decomposing serenity
microphallus
lymphatic phlegm
then tell me if youre singing the same tune...



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Nov 7,2007 10:39pm
The only one of those bands I've heard is Lympathic Phlegm and I thought they sucked a thousand rancid assholes.



toggletoggle post by phillip  at Nov 7,2007 10:44pm
Fuck...I'm Dead


'nuf said



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Nov 7,2007 11:05pm
I never liked drum machine grind because:
Number one, I get annoyed by blastbeats in general and drum machine blastbeats sound really fucking annoying.
Number two, the mentality behind these "bands" seems to be that faster = better, which is just not true at all. "Dood, we're so fuckin fast dood, because we use a drum machine - its fuckin br00tal yo!" Whatever.
Number three is that most of these "bands" are basically losers who don't feel like putting the effort into writing/playing decent music so they half ass it with boring noisy "riffs" and a drum machine, throw in a few profanity-laden obscure movie samples and that's their poor excuse for trying to get their foot in the door to their dumb ass scene (or maybe trying to impress some ugly metal chicks, who knows?)



toggletoggle post by Quijibo at Nov 7,2007 11:20pm
AGORAPHBIC FUCKING NOSEBLEED



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Nov 7,2007 11:20pm
Putrid Pile = Awesomeness



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 7,2007 11:28pm
INSIDIOUS DECREPANCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Bdussy at Nov 7,2007 11:40pm
Drum machine anything is gay if it is in an attempt to be serious and has ambitions to be even remotely successful. I make shit with a drum machine because I both can't play the drums to what I write and don't know anyone personally who can. I guess when it comes down to it, I have no life and making music is quite simply something I enjoy to do, even if I have to use fake drums with no soul.



toggletoggle post by CMTAIB at Nov 7,2007 11:42pm
now the mammon machine is not gay.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 2:04am
Agoraphobic Nosebleed is the only band that fits into this category that I fully enjoy. Putrid Pile, Insidious Decrepancy, Viral Load et al. are not drum machine grind...they are death metal, goddammit. And they are damn good. I'd say Fuck...I'm Dead falls into the death metal category as well; also good stuff.



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Nov 8,2007 2:09am
shit i totally forgot about AGxNx shame on me



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Nov 8,2007 2:09am
or is that AGxNBx



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Nov 8,2007 2:15am
Anaal Nathrakh is not even close to gay



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 2:15am
ANb would be the correct initials, or at least the most popular.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 2:16am
Anaal Nathrakh is fucking sick, and they've at least used a real drummer in some live settings. Plus, once again, not grind.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Nov 8,2007 2:19am
i know not grind, but its like one of the only cases that a band can be only drum machine and not suck. yes necrophagist had a drum machine ont heir first effort, i know...



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 2:40am
Aaah, I get ya.

I completely forgot Necrophagist had a drum machine on the first CD; didn't they re-record it with live drums or just re-sample it? Either way, that CD is way fucking better than Epitaph.



toggletoggle post by punk potenza at Nov 8,2007 7:52am
cattsexual urge motivation is the fuckin shit they didnt just blast they SLUGED the fuck out they serisouly put forth some bad vibes with their sounds



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 8,2007 8:03am
putrid pile is deathgrind. what about pornogrind? mmm fucking me in my whore ass



toggletoggle post by C.DEAD at Nov 8,2007 9:07am
If you don't like the old demo and EP stuff of Gore Beyond Necropsy you are a gay.

Catasexual Urge Motivation is so much more than a drum machine grind band. They were in their own world and are still one of my all time favorite bands. No one can even match up to how dark and menacing their sounds were.

And yeah, Putrid Pile and INSIDIOUS DECREPANCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are not grind, far from it. Also both are pretty far from being good.

Psychosadistic Haterapist is pretty rad though, hehe.



toggletoggle post by Whoremastery  at Nov 8,2007 9:31am
Torsofuck!!!!



toggletoggle post by brad weymouth at Nov 8,2007 10:05am
So then when militianary did those songs that Leamy originally did with a drum machine, did you say they were gay then? You're just mad cuz you can't program your drum machine, fag.



toggletoggle post by ChineseMoustache666 at Nov 8,2007 10:23am
Rudolph Guiliani uses a drum machine when he gets divorced.



toggletoggle post by BDUSSY at Nov 8,2007 10:32am
Drum machine grind is not nearly as gay as faggy "power violence-post-hardcore-pre-gay-invasion-punk"

Sub-sub-subsubsub-genre categories are gayer than the fucking pastel packin' Easter bunny.



toggletoggle post by ChineseMoustache666 at Nov 8,2007 10:38am
Drum machine grind is not nearly as gay as the tv show scrubs



toggletoggle post by BDUSSY at Nov 8,2007 10:40am
Sitcoms are for fags who like it deeper than people who watch celebrity dating shows like "I love New York" and "A shot at love with Tila Tequilla".



toggletoggle post by ChineseMoustache666 at Nov 8,2007 10:40am
I know you don't mean Arrested Development in that statement.
You are a fucking racist.



toggletoggle post by BDUSSY at Nov 8,2007 10:44am
I'm not racist, I just hate them fucking prayer-rug-camel-jockies.



toggletoggle post by ChineseMoustache666 at Nov 8,2007 10:46am
I hate scandinavians for being tall and having bright hair. That is what lamps are for.



toggletoggle post by Whoremastery  at Nov 8,2007 10:49am
BDUSSY said:
Sitcoms are for fags who like it deeper than people who watch celebrity dating shows like "I love New York" and "A shot at love with Tila Tequilla".


tila is fuckin ugly she looks like a bug!



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 2:44pm
C.DEAD said:
Putrid Pile and INSIDIOUS DECREPANCY are not grind, far from it. Also both are pretty far from being good.


Pretty idiotic words here, these are both great Death Grind!



toggletoggle post by C.DEAD at Nov 8,2007 3:29pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
C.DEAD said:
Putrid Pile and INSIDIOUS DECREPANCY are not grind, far from it. Also both are pretty far from being good.


Pretty idiotic words here, these are both great Death Grind!


I disagree with you. Idiotic as it may be, you are still the supreme brootal death metal king.




toggletoggle post by tylerl  at Nov 8,2007 3:42pm
INFECT said:

microphallus



haha, sick band name



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Nov 8,2007 3:59pm
phillip said:
Fuck...I'm Dead


Terrible.

Quijibo said:
AGORAPHBIC FUCKING NOSEBLEED


Terrible.

the_reverend said:
pornogrind


Terrible.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 8,2007 4:09pm
I was at the pornography store. I was buying pornography.



toggletoggle post by brad weymouth at Nov 8,2007 4:34pm
eric is dumb.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Nov 8,2007 10:29pm
There are TONS of hack bands that could get thrown in this catagory, but there are some key bands that you just can't fuck with.
I can understand the hate, but remember that there are SOME actually worth a damn.



toggletoggle post by theaccurseddrummer  at Nov 8,2007 10:31pm
MarkFuckingRichards said:
Aaah, I get ya.

I completely forgot Necrophagist had a drum machine on the first CD; didn't they re-record it with live drums or just re-sample it? Either way, that CD is way fucking better than Epitaph.


Seconded, and I think Agoraphobic Nosebleed kills too.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Nov 8,2007 10:32pm
I have an ANb 10" on white wax I'm holding on to because I know one day it'll be worth $$$$$$.



toggletoggle post by theaccurseddrummer  at Nov 8,2007 10:35pm
Lamp said:
I have an ANb 10" on white wax I'm holding on to because I know one day it'll be worth $$$$$$.


Been there myself. Got a few little goodies I'm still holding on to in hopes of making some Ca$hola.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 10:58pm
Speaking of drum machines, if anyone wants to buy Lymphatic Phlegm, Amoebic Dysentery, Torsofuck, Fuck...I'm Dead, Decomposing Serenity, etc., etc. CDs off of me, I have a shitload in my "distro" (AKA a box of CDs that a bandmate obtained via bad trades) that I need to get rid of. There are many. MANY.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 11:05pm
I'd get the Lymphatic Phlegm and Fuck... I'm Dead CDs.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 11:11pm
Here are the LP and F...ID CD's I've got:
Fuck…I’m Dead-Bring On The Dead (1)
Lymphatic Phlegm/Autophagia/Feculent Goretomb/Ulcerrhoea-Split (2)
Lymphatic Phlegm-Neuro-Visceral Exhumation (1)
Lymphatic Phlegm-Pathogenesis Infest Phlegmsepsia (4)
Torsofuck/Lymphatic Phlegm-Split (3)

I also have:

Amoebic Dysentery-Mongoloid Metal (3)
Bloodshed-Warped In The Macabre (1)
Bowel Stew-Necrocannibal Rites (3)
Brutalmaggedon (Atavism/ Drain Of Impurity/ Mincer)-3 Way Split (6)
Burial-Enlightened With Pain (2)
Clitorture-S/T (1)
Cryptic Warning-Sanity’s Aberration (3)
Debodified-Utopia Through The Eyes Of A Beast (4-3 packaged, 1 unpackaged)
Decomposing Serenity/Sugar Plum Fairy-Split (5)
Enmity-Vomit Forth Intestinal Excrement (1)
Fecal Corpse-We Gang-Banged Your Mom…Again! (1)
Flesh Feast-S/T (2)
Garbage Disposal-Reunion Carbide (1)
Goratory-Orgasm Induced Diarrhea (1)
Goreland-Gore Grind Compilation (2)
Gruesome Malady-Infected With Virulent Seed (2)
Hacksaw To The Throat-Wastelands (1)
Ion Dissonance-Breathing Is Irrelevant (8)
Mincing Fury And Guttural Clamour Of Queer Decay-Lamentations (2)
Mucupurulent/Infected Pussy-Split (2)
Mutilated-Devirginated Genital Pulp (1)
Necrotic Chaos/Cardiac Necropsy-Splitting The Vulva (1)
Neuraxis-Trilateral Progression (1)
Neuro-Visceral Exhumation-Mass Murder Festival (1)
PETA Is At The Door…/The Tragic Death Of The Four Whoresmen-Never Yielding Screams From Behind A Locked Door (1)
PETA Is At The Door…-Many Items Of Great Wealth & Beauty Are Damaged In This Way (1)
Quell-Sleep Soundly (3)
Quell-One Man’s Struggle With The English Language (1)
Sanatorium-Fetus Rape (5)
Sintury-Disgorging The Dead (1)
Solidification-Vendetta Driven (3)
Sons Of Chaos-Redwork (1)
Squash Bowels-For Dead God: International Devastation (1)
Vaginal Carnage-Dildo Detention (4)

I'll bring whichever CDs you want to the Mortal Decay show, Mr. Dwyer. I also have the TYAG CDs you need.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 11:20pm edited Nov 8,2007 11:21pm
MarkFuckingRichards said:

Fuck…I’m Dead-Bring On The Dead (1)
Torsofuck/Lymphatic Phlegm-Split (3)
Lymphatic Phlegm-Pathogenesis Infest Phlegmsepsia (4)
Clitorture-S/T (1)
Mutilated-Devirginated Genital Pulp (1)


I can take those, I prefer to trade for any of my label CDs that you might need.



Let me know.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 11:22pm
I'm fine with trades; I'll bring all of them on Saturday and decide there.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 11:26pm
If you know what 10 CDs you want, if you could let me know in advance that'd be good so I can bring those.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 11:29pm
Damn, now you're putting me on the spot, haha!

How about:

2 Deconformity, 2 Godless Rising, 2 Goreality full length, 2 Clitorture/Goreality split, and 2 Avsky?

And do you still need some TYAG stuff? We've got tons, and we need to get rid of them, haha.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 11:31pm
Is it the digipak MCD?



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 11:33pm
It is indeed.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 11:38pm
2 for 1 on those? Or 4 for 3 or something?



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 8,2007 11:45pm
We can do 4 TYAG for 3 Amputator/Baphomet's Horns splits if you'd like...unless you've got anything outside of your own releases that you'd be willing to part with.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 8,2007 11:51pm
Yeah, these, I can take 16 of those for 12 of these:

DISHED (Poland) Reason of Suffering CD (Eight (de)compositions of brutal Death Metal in the vein of early CANNIBAL CORPSE, PYREXIA and SUFFOCATION. Crushing and furious music with murderous riffs, killing tempos and a technical touch. One of the most exciting Polish Death Metal bands out today, a really great disc, a must have.)
http://www.myspace.com/dished


FLAGELLATION (Poland) - First Step To Armageddon CD (Brand new CD, brutal Death Metal, including a KATAKLYSM cover song.)
http://www.myspace.com/flagellation6


ONE MASTER (USA, FL) Forsaking A Dead World (Excellent gritty Black / Death Metal from New England, this is raw, powerful stuff and despite the rather rough sounding production, the CD contains 6 blistering tracks of old-school styled Black Metal that will make every fan of GORGOROTH, IMMORTAL and DISSECTION take notice, highly recommended.)
http://www.one-master.net


PESSIMIST (USA, FL) Cult of The Initiated CD (The debut CD, evil Death Metal)
http://www.myspace.com/pessimist


PESSIMIST (USA, FL) Blood For The Gods CD (Heaviness, speed,
technicality... you will be hooked upon first listen if you're a fan of any good Metal. This is finally available again, was out of print for awhile, the demand for this classic evil Dungeon Metal must be fulfilled, PICK OF THE ISSUE Absolutely essential! 10 Fucking Skulls!!!
SOD MAGAZINE)



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 9,2007 12:06am
Dished is pretty good; How about 8 TYAG for 3 Amputator/Baphomet's Horns and 3 Dished?



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 9,2007 12:13am
Okay, I will box up those 16 CDs now.



toggletoggle post by eric weymouth at Nov 9,2007 12:18am
hey brad john gillis is our drum machine and yes he is hard to program



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 9,2007 12:20am
Pleasure doing business with you Mr. Dwyer! I shall see you on Saturday.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 9,2007 12:55am
I can also take the 4 Vaginal Carnage - Dildo Detention MCDs, see if you can pick 3 more CDs.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 9,2007 1:13am
3 Anoxia sound good?



toggletoggle post by sever nli at Nov 9,2007 6:57am
my drum machine grind is the best:

http://www.myspace.com/immurement

THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT.



toggletoggle post by brad weymouth at Nov 9,2007 7:29am
eric weymouth said:
hard to program


isnt that an Otis Redding song?



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Nov 9,2007 8:32am
now I'm not terribly a big fan of drum machine death metal/grind(let me explain before you jump down my throat), but I wouldn't say I dislike it. there's always something more satisfying in seeing a human do the ridiculous things a machine can.
with The Mammon Machine, we had no other choice. we had tried out plenty of drummers, and unfortunately, the choices in seacoast NH were very limited seeing as real metal fans were few and far between(aside from the Porphyria and Putrescene boys).
after a while we just said "fuck it" and started playing shows with our "drummer in a box" and it went well for a while. soon I grew tired of it and joined up with HS feeling better about being in a full band.
I completely understand both sides of the arguement, so in all, you guys should like both live and technological drummers if the music itself is actually good!



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 9,2007 2:24pm
MarkFuckingRichards said:
3 Anoxia sound good?


I added them to your box, thanks.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 9,2007 2:26pm
My box is filled with such delicious goodies.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 9,2007 2:27pm



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Nov 9,2007 2:36pm
That's a little bit too sexual for me, Mr. Dwyer. You're getting me wet.



toggletoggle post by Northern Frost at Nov 9,2007 3:07pm
Gigantic Brain is the best drum machine grindcore ever.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Nov 9,2007 4:44pm
aaron_michael said:
I completely understand both sides of the arguement, so in all, you guys should like both live and technological drummers if the music itself is actually good!


But the drum machine makes the music sound not good, it makes it sound like bad techno or some other horse shit.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 9,2007 5:05pm
old school dreaded silence



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