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returntothepit >> discuss >> digital metal disses the taste of silver...sort of by dreadkill on Sep 10,2007 11:38pm
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toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 10,2007 11:38pm
Destroyer Destroyer – “Littered With Arrows”
Goodfellow

Right. I’ve almost had it with this whole kids playing deathcore/grind spazz tech bullshit. While I generally embrace the heavier, more death metal aspect of this genre (Despised Icon, Ion Dissonance, Whitechapel, Diskreet, Knights of the Abyss, At The Throne of Judgment, Woe of Tyrants, etc) this overly spazzy, emo plagued, screechy, quirky, pseudo grind has got to stop as I’ve literally been swamped with it recently ; Arsonists Get all the Girls, The Orangeburg Massacre, Heavy Heavy Low Low, The Assailant, Robinson, War From a Harlots Mouth, The Number 12 Looks Like You, A Second From the Surface, The Taste of Silver, Dance Club Massacre and Last Chance to Reason. The list goes on a on in a sea of short hair, tight pants, screams, chaotic squawking, growls and horrid song titles-and they all sound the fucking same.

And to add to the issue of complete unoriginality-some of the afore mentioned bands have tried ever so hard to add some gimmick to their contrived sound; Arsonists Get all the Girls=quirky synths, War From a Harlots Mouth=jazzy interludes, Dance Club Massacre=horror film atmospherics and synths and in the case of Oklahoma City’s Destroyer Destroyer=detuned 7 string guitars. Yay-so that means a slightly lower end on the rumbling breaks between grating squeals and equal grating screams from the annoying frontman.

Listen, just because you have heard albums from Converge, Pig Destroyer, Daughters, wear a Napalm Death or Dying Fetus shirt and have some second rate Paul Romano meets Jacob Bannon artwork, doesn’t give you the right or ability to lay down 12 short stabs of mindless noise; not including the required slower, post rock Isis-tracks (“Number Cruncher”) or lengthier more experimental “Error” and “Off the Beaten Path”.

Now don’t get me wrong, I like my sonic cacophony as much as anyone as efforts from the likes of Gaza, Nights Like These, Architect and others get regular play from me, but shit, some semblance of structure or actual chords might be good. As it stands, Littered With Arrows stands as a musical testimony to the old theory that if you put a bunch of chimpanzees and typewriters in a room, eventually out of the random chaos, something readable may result. Replace the monkeys with teenage kids and the typewriters with instruments and you get Destroyer Destroyer in the very early stages of the experiment.

I’m sure a bunch of ‘extreme’ myspacers will ‘get’ this and say I don’t 'get' it because I’m a musical relic by today’s standards, but I’ve heard a lot of music-both old and new and Destroyer Destroyer is among the most grating I’ve heard. But I guessing that’s mission accomplished for them and the sad excuse for a scene we are currently experiencing.

By Erik Thomas



toggletoggle post by Brad Weymouth at Sep 11,2007 7:15am
that was the best review i've ever read



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 11,2007 7:56am
I like how instead of not listing out bands instead of writing words, he went the opposite way.



toggletoggle post by ZenErik   at Sep 11,2007 8:19am
Well, Destroyer Destroyer are assholes anyway...

Along with Dance Club Massacre...

And especially Architect.

Admittedly, I actually do like some Architect and Destroyer Destroyer. But as people, they should all die in a tour van crash.



toggletoggle post by Mess at Sep 11,2007 8:19am
ha?
i thought it was pretty funny
this guy's a riot



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 11,2007 8:32am
sme one needs to cut TTOS down from their high fucking lorells. "hi, we're ap mags's band, the taste of silver"
jerks



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Sep 11,2007 9:33am
dude, what happened with that tour? We played with those 3 bands, too. And while Keith from Architect was a bit anti-social, otherwise I thought the bands were pretty nice guys.



toggletoggle post by cav at Sep 11,2007 11:09am
LOL at ttos and lctr being mentioned in other peoples reviews, for being something than neither of them are.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 11,2007 12:05pm
its cool we are all pussies anyway



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Sep 11,2007 2:38pm
the_reverend said:
sme one needs to cut TTOS down from their high fucking lorells. "hi, we're ap mags's band, the taste of silver"
jerks


don't you mean, "laurels"



toggletoggle post by joeycobra  at Sep 11,2007 2:40pm
ZenErik said:
Well, Destroyer Destroyer are assholes anyway...

Along with Dance Club Massacre...

And especially Architect.

Admittedly, I actually do like some Architect and Destroyer Destroyer. But as people, they should all die in a tour van crash.


what happened??...they seemed like nice dudes when we played with them.



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood@Work at Sep 11,2007 2:45pm
Murph said:
the_reverend said:
sme one needs to cut TTOS down from their high fucking lorells. "hi, we're ap mags's band, the taste of silver"
jerks


don't you mean, "laurels"







toggletoggle post by brandon...  at Sep 11,2007 3:56pm
Nights like these sucks ass, but i agree with the man..or at least most of what he said.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Sep 11,2007 4:04pm
I hope the vocalist of Architect gets decapitated and his hands with the X tattoos on them are put in the Retard Hall of Fame.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Sep 11,2007 4:16pm
I've never heard Destroyer Destroyer and most likely won't go out of my way to listen to them, but I think if they're going to get shit on, the person doing the review should at least check his fucking grammar. Does that stuff piss anyone else off except for John Dwyer? I think Erik Thomas is a monkey with a typewriter. Learn to command the English language before writing any sort of publication. Goddammit.

Oh, and Paul Romano and Jake Bannon are amazing artists; the term "2nd rate" hardly applies.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 11,2007 4:55pm
i think he meant the artwork was done by a 2nd rate imitator of those guys.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 11,2007 5:14pm
i think jake bannons visual art is crap, although it looks cool... it deserves minimal credit for effort. most people can use adobe products to do what he does.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 11,2007 5:16pm
he also quoted the word "get" when it was used correctly in addition to when it was used in the place of word "understand"



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Sep 11,2007 6:01pm
Jake Bannon's work can be argued I suppose, and I will say that some of the stuff he does for hardcore bands is very repetitive (especially his style of skulls).

Overall, I think he has a very established, visually pleasing style that allows him to give simple arrangements much more depth than most artists can get with even a complex composition. I wouldn't say he deserves minimal credit for effort, but the people that rip him off with Adobe software should get minimal credit. Jake Bannon created a unique style for himself, which in and of itself is a difficult task for a professional artist, but of course a million people copy his style so it is expected that he would lose some validity. All it takes is someone to dissect his/her style(s) for as long as it takes, then 100 other people to steal the idea without having to think for themselves. It's not always the execution of the art that takes the most effort, it's conceptual skills and individuality (for the most part).



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 11,2007 7:11pm
HAHAH, this dude is awesome.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Sep 11,2007 10:57pm
Wow you guys were right...terrible grammer on his part.

Here's a tip for him.




toggletoggle post by Murph  at Sep 11,2007 11:13pm
SteveOTB said:
Wow you guys were right...terrible grammer on his part.

Here's a tip for him.



aww dude, you spelled GRAMMAR wrong.




toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Sep 11,2007 11:17pm
Murph said:
SteveOTB said:
Wow you guys were right...terrible grammer on his part.

Here's a tip for him.



aww dude, you spelled GRAMMAR wrong.



hahahaha wow...I did. Just realized that now.

Maybe RTTP needs a spell check.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Sep 12,2007 12:14am
you wouldve thought aaron wouldve done that by now, considering hes the king of mispelling everything so no one ever understands a goddamn thing hes saying.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 12,2007 8:17am
The sad thing is, the only member of TTOS wearing tight pants was me because I put on 30 lbs :(

When size 36 becomes tight, it's time for the barrel of the gun



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Sep 12,2007 8:46am
if you use firefox it has it has a built in spell check on input fields.

More like the taste of a pig lard, amirite?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 12,2007 8:53am
I use ff and the built in spell check. I just look away from the keyboard/screen while typing and then look up to think "who the hell wrote that?!?"



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 12,2007 8:53am
and FF's suggestions are 99% wrong.



toggletoggle post by Mess at Sep 12,2007 8:54am
nerds



toggletoggle post by porphyria at Sep 12,2007 9:43am
SteveOTB said:
Wow you guys were right...terrible grammer on his part.

Here's a tip for him.



pwn3d.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 12,2007 11:03pm
In some ways, it IS an honor to be used as an anti-hero, I guess



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 13,2007 11:52am
blue said:
you wouldve thought aaron wouldve done that by now, considering hes the king of mispelling everything so no one ever understands a goddamn thing hes saying.


hahahahahahaha, i always blame it on acid.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Sep 14,2007 12:55pm
SteveOTB said:
Wow you guys were right...terrible grammer on his part.

Here's a tip for him.



You know Steve, you could have just gone with it and said you were trying to make fun of him by talking like him, but it's too later for that now.

In the words of Porphyria and the thoughts of just about everyone else: pwn3d.



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Sep 14,2007 12:57pm
ZenErik said:
Well, Destroyer Destroyer are assholes anyway...

Along with Dance Club Massacre...

And especially Architect.

Admittedly, I actually do like some Architect and Destroyer Destroyer. But as people, they should all die in a tour van crash.


I didn't talk to DCM or Destroyer Destroyer much. I do know that the drummer of Destroyer Destroyer said that our drummer is "way to fucking fast" which is a good compliment.

But I talked to the guys from Architect a lot and I thought they were pretty cool shit. Especially the bassist and singer. I gave the bassist our last OTB shirt for free, and he said he's gonna wear it for the duration of the tour. And later on that night the singer gave me a free shirt just because I helped Dave out with that show.



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