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returntothepit >> discuss >> ATTN: Bittorrent users. by xanonymousx on Aug 31,2007 6:37pm
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toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 31,2007 6:37pm
you can no longer use http://torrentspy.com
it prohibits US users to search their site.



toggletoggle post by archaeon at Aug 31,2007 6:58pm
i saw that the other day. disappointing



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 31,2007 7:04pm
I'm downloading a gig and a half of HackMaster RPG books right now. It's a beautiful thing.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 31,2007 7:15pm
Isohunt is the only torrent engine worth fuck.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 31,2007 7:21pm
funky torrents is cool too.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 31,2007 8:14pm
gay.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 31,2007 8:40pm
torrents.to

with that said, bitch-ass leechers mean that i can never get anything dl'd.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Sep 1,2007 1:04am
uhhh, I can't believe you retards are still using torrents.

Hope you're ready for that letter you'll be getting from your ISP soon.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's even MORE reason you shouldn't be using torrents.




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Sep 1,2007 1:05am
the_reverend said:

with that said, bitch-ass leechers mean that i can never get anything dl'd.


Those aren't bitch ass leechers, those are government agencies, and anti-p2p organizations that have been tracking your bittorrent activity since the beginning of the summer, and slowing your downloads for the last month or two.






toggletoggle post by the tax man at Sep 1,2007 1:10am
ArrowHead likes Pie said:


Hope you're ready for that letter you'll be getting from your ISP soon.




what are they going to do?



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Sep 1,2007 1:22am
the tax man said:
ArrowHead likes Pie said:


Hope you're ready for that letter you'll be getting from your ISP soon.




what are they going to do?


Depends on who the letter you get is from.

Some ISP's have been caving in over the last few months, and turning user info over to the riaa and mpaa. In that case you'll find that you're being sued unless you settle for anywhere from $1000-$3000.

Some other ISP's thus far haven't turned over user info, but instead send a letter themselves saying to cease downloading copyrighted material. These can safely be ignored, but if it happens enough times then you will lose your internet service.

Either way, these organizations most likely have your number, so if and when your ISP DOES cave in, you're going to get fucked.

Have you had any downloads lately that run up to 90%+ and then jam up and won't finish downloading, or slow to an unusually slow speed? Try loading up a program like Peerguardian and watch some of the wonderful names that are connecting to you. BBC, Turner, Anti-p2p up the wazoo, even FBI and such are connecting to you at times.

This is EVERY client, EVERY type of file you can imagine. I don't know if they've hit the private servers yet, but public torrents are just a bad idea right now.



toggletoggle post by the tax man at Sep 1,2007 1:30am
wow! that sounds more serious than the i.r.s.
i don't understand the world anymore,they put up a site so you can download stuff,then you get in trouble for using it? insanity! if they dont want you downloading shit that was copyrighted you'd think they would make it impossible to upload copyrighted stuff to begin with? this is like when someone steals your credit card info and visa says" you know all that pointless info we have about you that only exists so we can stay in business? well,we lost it and now you have straighten it out.insanity!



toggletoggle post by the tax man at Sep 1,2007 1:33am
oh one more ?
if i was to be fined.. who would the check be written to?



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Sep 1,2007 1:40am
Did you know torrentspy has been in court fighting a lawsuit for over a year, and that they are storing and tracking all user data? They haven't handed any of it over, but if they lose this lawsuit they might well have to. This includes your own data, obviously since you're still using their site.

Did you know that even the infamous Demonoid's ISP has been in court fighting demands to turn over the demonoid clan's information?

Here's some more interesting reading.


http://torrentfreak.com/ziptorrent-pollutes-and-slows-down-popular-torrents/

http://forum.mininova.org/index.php?showto...34996460&st=0&p=277738&#entry277738
(read the whole thread if you have time.)



http://torrentfreak.com/torrentspy-blocks-searches-from-us-visitors/
this is the story about torrentspy blocking US searches

http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-wrongfully...denies-interfering-with-bittorrent/

http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-anime-d...s-identified-3000-bill-in-the-mail/

http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-lobby-...s-police-to-take-on-the-pirate-bay/

http://torrentfreak.com/torrentspy-advertises-malicious-bittorrent-client/

I've said it a few times before on this board. Torrents are fucking GAY! every connection you make when downloading illegal content is a potential risk. Why increase that risk using a client that is making hundreds of simultaneous connections for every file you download?




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Sep 1,2007 1:42am
the tax man said:
if they dont want you downloading shit that was copyrighted you'd think they would make it impossible to upload copyrighted stuff to begin with?


You mean like forcing torrentspy to block US searches? Or suing bittorrent users, since downloading means you are also uploading the file at the same time, to dozens of users? Or the kid they just sued senseless and are trying to throw in jail for filming a 20 second clip of transformers on her cell phone?






toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 1,2007 4:03am
I haven't done any torrents since like april any how.



toggletoggle post by Mess at Sep 1,2007 6:42am
he's on drugs



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Sep 1,2007 8:34am
hey arrowhead, does this apply to sensual sites like megaupload, mediafire and rapidshare?



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Sep 1,2007 8:35am
cuz i'd hate to get a letter from mey'nach and the LLN telling me i owe them money



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 1,2007 9:07am
torrents are legal. pirating is not.
it is legal to download non-pirated media from someone who is pirating media.
torrents are not bad you just need to take proper measures to make sure you are not traced on any software when getting illegal files.



toggletoggle post by Uh at Sep 1,2007 11:18am
ArrowHead likes Pie said:


Some ISP's have been caving in over the last few months, and turning user info over to the riaa and mpaa. In that case you'll find that you're being sued unless you settle for anywhere from $1000-$3000.


The RIAA is the one where you can settle for $1000-$3000 but they're currently in a class action counter suit for their shotty legal practices. The MPAA typically (they've been doing this for over 10 years now) will send you a notice saying you're in big trouble and all you do is send a letter back saying you have an open wifi connection and users don't really hear back from them unless they downloaded something before its release. Then you're fucked and the Feds take notice. But that same thing has been happening forever.

Some other ISP's thus far haven't turned over user info, but instead send a letter themselves saying to cease downloading copyrighted material. These can safely be ignored, but if it happens enough times then you will lose your internet service.


I've never seen an ISP send out letters for copyrighted material but they always send out letters when you are using too much bandwidth past their invisible cap and then tell you that you need to eventually upgrade to the business plan or be shut off if you continue to use such high bandwidth.

Either way, these organizations most likely have your number, so if and when your ISP DOES cave in, you're going to get fucked.


Except that your ISP probably isn't actively keeping track of all your connections or what kind of info you're passing. Why would they? That'd just be millions of dollars worth of unneeded overhead. When they do cave and get forced to keep track and hand over all their information from a court order we'll most likely know about it since it'd be part of a public trial.


You mean like forcing torrentspy to block US searches?


They didn't force them to do this. Torrentspy is doing it so they don't have to log EVERY ip address to EVERY file which would kill their servers as per court ordered.

And plus, Tor ( http://tor.eff.org/ ) is your friend.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 1,2007 11:55am



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