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returntothepit >> discuss >> Eluveitie appreciation thread by Hoser on Aug 6,2007 9:21pm
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toggletoggle post by Hoser at Aug 6,2007 9:21pm
Yet another killer band.....unreal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk

If you haven't heard of them....you have now...



toggletoggle post by archaeon at Aug 6,2007 9:22pm
they're really cool. neat mix of many many genres



toggletoggle post by VoidExpression  at Aug 6,2007 10:58pm edited Aug 6,2007 11:03pm
Whoa, love for a christian band on RTTP? Stop the presses!

Ven was a extremely weak, but they really stepped it up with Spirit. I almost didn't pick it up because the EP was so bad, and that would have been a huge mistake.



toggletoggle post by HUNTERHUNTER   at Aug 6,2007 11:33pm
the hurdy gurdy is sick



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Aug 7,2007 12:23am
they're christian?

seem to have a pretty celtic druid feel to me?

even the video.



toggletoggle post by VoidExpression  at Aug 7,2007 7:07am
They're on Fear Dark and lyrically they definitely lean towards christian belief, though this is mostly on the first EP. I had read somewhere recently that they were pushing for a more neutral religious approach, probably to keep from alienating people as they get more and more well known.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 7,2007 10:44am
VoidExpression said:
They're on Fear Dark and lyrically they definitely lean towards christian belief, though this is mostly on the first EP. I had read somewhere recently that they were pushing for a more neutral religious approach, probably to keep from alienating people as they get more and more well known.


EVANESCENCE LOL



toggletoggle post by VoidExpression  at Aug 7,2007 7:47pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
VoidExpression said:
They're on Fear Dark and lyrically they definitely lean towards christian belief, though this is mostly on the first EP. I had read somewhere recently that they were pushing for a more neutral religious approach, probably to keep from alienating people as they get more and more well known.


EVANESCENCE LOL


Bingo



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 3:12pm
Not apreeshed. It's a shame this band gets the recognition they do. stealing headlining spots for much better bands, releasing albums that all sound the same.

DEATH TO FALSE PAGAN / FOLK METAL



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Oct 1,2009 3:16pm
i like a few songs, but they are vastly overrated. can't say i've listened to them much since my initial exposure to them. i groan when i see them on tours instead of better bands, but at least with them headlining, you can leave early.



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toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 1,2009 3:40pm
I like them! Wouldn't say they're my favorite band, but they put on a fun show and their music is really catchy.

Besides, herdy gerdy + metal = awesome!



toggletoggle post by mikeofdecrepitude at Oct 1,2009 3:41pm
Folkemon or GTFO



toggletoggle post by IvoryandSteel  at Oct 1,2009 3:41pm
I think there are tons of other bands out there that sound just like this band, but way better.



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 1,2009 3:45pm
in fact, I'm listening to them now!

on that note, I need more good folk metal in my collection.

Suggestions are welcome!



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 3:48pm
Check out Menhir's Buchonia EP.

That EP leans more towards folk, but all their albums are top-notch pagan metal. If you haven't heard them do it NOW. GO NOW GET TO THE CHOPPA



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 1,2009 3:49pm
I have their Ziuwari album, which I haven't listened to in awhile. Shall do so tonight!



toggletoggle post by mikeofdecrepitude at Oct 1,2009 3:49pm
Heol Telwen, Pagan Reign, Odroerir, ugh.. yes and even Skyclad



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 3:49pm
Ziuwari is by far their worst. Get Thuringia.



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Oct 1,2009 4:47pm
aril said[orig][quote]
DEATH TO FALSE PAGAN / FOLK METAL


A bandmate who spent his childhood playing Irish/Scottish fiddle (doing contests and the whole nine yards) told me a lot of their "folk" parts are very clearly based on traditional Celtic tunes. Although I'm not super into "pagan/folk metal" I haven't heard any other bands do that particular angle as well as Eluveitie - Scandinavian folk music and generic Viking-isms seem way more common.



toggletoggle post by aril at Oct 1,2009 10:37pm
I love folk music. And this band, while having talent, just makes good folk melodies sound cheesy and over the top.



toggletoggle post by ark nli at Oct 1,2009 10:54pm
I agree with aril. Saw them live and they were entertaining but they also make me feel like I'm listening to the Dropkick Murphys.

Gjallarhorn - Sjofn (2000): http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=CE5AO73I
THAT is some killer Scandinavian folk with unbelievable vocals, check it out.



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Oct 1,2009 11:59pm
Do you guys usually like Irish folk music though? Because I see what you're saying about cheesy, dropkicks, etc. but I kind of feel like that might have more to do with the Irish thing than the band itself, if that makes sense.



toggletoggle post by avalonwinds  at Oct 2,2009 12:25am
aril said[orig][quote]
Not apreeshed. It's a shame this band gets the recognition they do. stealing headlining spots for much better bands, releasing albums that all sound the same.

DEATH TO FALSE PAGAN / FOLK METAL


You sir, are an idiot.



toggletoggle post by ArilliusBM  at Oct 2,2009 12:31am edited Oct 2,2009 12:34am
I'm a very opinionated idiot, you're right.

Snowden, it honestly depends what kind of Irish folk music you're talking about. Some Irish folk music is very laid-back, relaxing and mellow. Here's an example from the Bothy Band:

bennyhillifier


The thing with Eluveitie is they're more of a "jig" band - the kind of music that wants you to drink beers and jump on a table dancing with hot irish broads. I'm more of a sucker for fiddle over acoustic guitar than jig shit, albeit jig stuff is very nice to drink to.

But Avalon Winds, I've hated Eluveitie since the Ven demo came out in 2003. I've seen them live now 3-4 times and I'm disappointed every time I see them and see people posing as real folk fans.

If you want to hear some good, solid instrumental folk music with MUCH MORE emotion than cheesy Eluveitie, check out the german band Neun Welten.



toggletoggle post by avalonwinds  at Oct 2,2009 1:09am
I'll check them out, never will turn down something in my alley.



toggletoggle post by ArilliusBM  at Oct 2,2009 1:14am
Yea man. To each their own.. I mean like I said, the jig stuff just doesn't do it for me anymore.

Here's a video of Neun Welten playing around a campfire Hopefully you'll enjoy



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by ArilliusBM  at Oct 2,2009 1:16am
... and after watching that video I'm fucking jealous of that shit. would do anything to do something like that in front of a fire with ales this fall.



toggletoggle post by Snowden at Oct 2,2009 10:42am
Aha, my old acoustic band played a few fall bonfires in our time. Your hands get all cold because you can't really get the upright bass close to the fire, and then the fiddler is so drunk he drops his fiddle mid-song and can't find it in the dark so he gives up and wanders off. Still, SUPER FUN.


Anyhow, I also like Irish/English/Scottish/etc. ballads but when I was in Ireland pretty much all you'd hear at sessions was (more or less upbeat) instrumental tunes. I guess what I'm saying is that playing that kind of folk music isn't "false" at all; you're just not into it which is fine.



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