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returntothepit >> discuss >> Is Star Wars considered 'science fiction' by Niccolai on Aug 5,2007 3:00am
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toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 5,2007 3:00am
since it technically happened in real life?



toggletoggle post by da chief at Aug 5,2007 3:17am
i will cut you if you talk badly on the saga



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 5,2007 3:19am
Just don't cut me before tuesday, I wanna go to the market and get some power converters.



toggletoggle post by Arist  at Aug 5,2007 3:31am edited Aug 5,2007 3:34am
Those droids better be cleaned up by tomorrow



toggletoggle post by boine at Aug 5,2007 3:46am
they are gonna kill it with the tv series



toggletoggle post by da chief at Aug 5,2007 3:51am
its pretty retarded but the one things that made me laugh the most on rttp is.....

whiskey_weed_and_women said:
litacore said:
hahahaha, play that Nile riff with my mind I can





toggletoggle post by shamash at Aug 5,2007 4:27am
I find your lack of faith disturbing




toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 5,2007 8:35am edited Aug 5,2007 8:36am
Honestly, you won't find a bigger fan of the OT, but I don't consider it sci-fi. It's just mega-epic space opera.



Heinlein, Clarke, Asimov, sci-fi these are. Pseudo-religious psionics? Heh! Effortless hyperspace travel? Heh! A sci-fi fan craves not these things.



toggletoggle post by demondave at Aug 5,2007 9:25am



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Aug 5,2007 9:57am
yes, its sci-fi. the end.



toggletoggle post by NuclearWinter at Aug 5,2007 2:00pm
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good beer at your side, kid.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 5,2007 2:13pm
I have a real bad feeling about this.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 5,2007 2:14pm
that's no moon.....that's a space station.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 5,2007 2:15pm
(Palpatine, using Force Lightning on Mace Windu)

UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by shamash at Aug 5,2007 2:34pm
"I have a real bad feeling about this. "

I love how they say that in each of the good movies.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 5,2007 3:14pm edited Aug 5,2007 3:14pm
thuringwethil said:
(Palpatine, using Force Lightning on Mace Windu)

UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!!!


IT'S OVER NINE THOUSANNNNNNND!!!



"I was born here, you know."

"You're gonna die here, you know."



toggletoggle post by Anonymous at Aug 5,2007 4:18pm
Rule 34 on The Sarlaac Pit



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 5,2007 4:24pm
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 5,2007 4:25pm



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 5,2007 10:33pm
C-3PO: [to R2-D2] This is all your fault

How many times it THAT said in any of the movies?



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Aug 5,2007 10:59pm
Super nerds have tried to tell me it is science-fantasy no matter how hard I argue that I don't even care abouts Star Wars. My ladyfriend is okay with calling it sci-fi and she is the biggest SW nerd I have ever met so that's good enough for me. I did not read this thread.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 5,2007 11:14pm
15 1/2 boners and a dead homophone... er.. what the fuck is a homophone.



toggletoggle post by Neverpurified  at Aug 5,2007 11:56pm
Niccolai said:
Just don't cut me before tuesday, I wanna go to the market and get some power converters.


you can waste time with your friends when your chores are done



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 6,2007 12:40am
ZJD said:
Super nerds have tried to tell me it is science-fantasy no matter how hard I argue that I don't even care abouts Star Wars. My ladyfriend is okay with calling it sci-fi and she is the biggest SW nerd I have ever met so that's good enough for me. I did not read this thread.


Yes. Star Wars nerd, not sci-fi nerd. Therefore unqualified to comment.



toggletoggle post by ZOMBIE ROBERT HEINLEIN at Aug 6,2007 12:43am
I've come from beyond the grave to give you all an important message. This shit's Tolkien with spaceships. NOT SCI-FI. Fucking "PEW PEW" noises in a vaccuum, I mean SRSLY. PEACE I'M OUT.



toggletoggle post by ZOMBIE ROBERT HEINLEIN at Aug 6,2007 12:43am



toggletoggle post by boine at Aug 6,2007 1:11am
if star wars is ripping any one off its Frank Herbert's "Dune"



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toggletoggle post by peteovdom  at Aug 6,2007 1:31am
very interesting correlations in there. also take into account that lucas had many other influences. like tolkien, lucas took much from mythology and religion. tolkien took almost all of his shit directly from Nordic myths. to say that any of these are original is rediculous.



toggletoggle post by boine at Aug 6,2007 1:43am edited Aug 6,2007 1:43am
oh ya Tolkien is just Norse tales with Christian overtones but if you read dune you can see it is a huge influence on star wars great story too, but Frank Herbert was a dick and didnt like heavy metal and he wouldnt even let Iron Maiden name the song they wrote about the books after the book



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 6,2007 10:35am
Star Wars is a documentary, and the events happened in real time.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 6,2007 10:50am edited Aug 6,2007 10:51am
Yeti said:
Star Wars is a documentary, and the events happened in real time.




I got rid of my teeth at a young age because... I'm straight. Teeth are for gay people. That's why fairies come and get them.



toggletoggle post by xmikex @ work at Aug 6,2007 11:00am
Science Foolish



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Aug 6,2007 8:07pm


i'm pretty sure my brother can do that with a yo-yo




toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Aug 7,2007 3:28am


The Sith are more black metal than any of you can handle.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Aug 7,2007 9:31am
Haha, Boba Fett the Bounty bouncer.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Aug 7,2007 9:48am
narkybark said:


The Sith are more black metal than any of you can handle.


That is awesome.

Yes Star Wars is truth. It obviously happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.




toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Aug 7,2007 9:59am
ha, just noticed the emperor on the cowbell.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Aug 7,2007 10:03am
You would think that count Dooku would have a meaner looking bass than that.



toggletoggle post by Dwellingsickness at Aug 7,2007 9:06pm
i can't stand star wars



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 8,2007 10:41am
Dwellingsickness said:
i can't stand star wars


communist.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 8,2007 10:42am
CHEWBACCA IS REAL



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 8,2007 10:43am
you're damn right he is. Wookies are my people.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 22,2008 10:56am
Bumping this thread for some unknown reason.
Star Wars is a fantasy/ epic space drama, like DYA said.

What Lucas did is take traditional Medival elements (knights, princess, chivalry) and combine them in a psuedo-scifi environment that takes place in the PAST, in a galaxy far far away.
Pure genius. Too bad the new Star Wars movie (specifically the 1st and 2nd) seemed more orientated at a younger audience.

Star Wars is way more fantasy than sci-fi.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Dec 22,2008 5:53pm
I read star wars books about 2 a week. I have read about 35 of them now in the last 4 months. (obviously my reading speed has fluxuated) The more i read, the more into it i get. The "New Jedi Order" series is fantastic. Better than any of the movies.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Dec 22,2008 6:19pm
Dwellingsickness said[orig][quote]
i can't stand star wars


I just got all happy thinking he was posting again and then I saw the year. Booo.



toggletoggle post by guy at Dec 22,2008 8:11pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Star Wars is way more fantasy than sci-fi.


whats the difference when your in space



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 22,2008 10:30pm
I just made a bet with myself on how many posts this thread went before I posted in it. I lost.



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toggletoggle post by corpus_NLI at Dec 23,2008 7:11am
its above and beyond sci-fi in my mind...ever hear of joseph campbell?



toggletoggle post by demondave at Dec 23,2008 8:04am
metal_church101 said[orig][quote]
narkybark said:


The Sith are more black metal than any of you can handle.


That is awesome.

Yes Star Wars is truth. It obviously happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.




Tell the Emperor that it needs more Cowbell



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 23,2008 9:20am
awe.. miss peeps.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Dec 23,2008 9:36am
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Hitler to Bobo: This is all your fault!



fixed.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 23,2008 9:46am
wow... I turned on the Tv and the series was on. never saw it before.



toggletoggle post by Mike Pile at Dec 23,2008 5:45pm
corpus_NLI said[orig][quote]
its above and beyond sci-fi in my mind...ever hear of joseph campbell?


yes, from every english professor on earth, ever. every time I hear him and Star Wars mentioned in the same breath, i slouch.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Dec 24,2008 1:23pm
narkybark said[orig][quote]


The Sith are more black metal than any of you can handle.


oh my god this rules so fucking much!!!

hah.
anyway
i don't care if it's sci-fi or not, what i do care about is that Episode 3 and the Original Trilogy are 4 amazing movies.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 27,2010 8:40am
?



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Jan 27,2010 8:51am
a common misconception is that star wars takes place in the future. you look at the beginning on every movie it states "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away...". its a fairy tale. its every greatest story ever told all in one.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jan 27,2010 8:55am
of course it's science fiction, sheesh!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 27,2010 9:08am
space opera fantasy drama or science fiction? That's the million dollar question. of course it all depends on what one considers a science fiction trait. most Trekkies I know think star wars is fantasy.. Could the Trekkies be right?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 27,2010 9:13am
fact.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 26,2010 2:32pm
Bump for Ark.
This question is unanswerable.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Jul 26,2010 3:04pm
DYA answered it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 26,2010 3:19pm
So you agree that it's a space opera fantasy?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Jul 26,2010 3:41pm
Space opera is adventure science fiction set in outer space or on distant planets, where the emphasis is on action rather than either science or characterization. The conflict is heroic, and typically on a large scale. Space opera is sometimes used pejoratively, to describe improbable plots, absurd science, and cardboard characters. But it is also used nostalgically, and modern space opera may be an attempt to recapture the sense of wonder of the golden age of science fiction. The pioneer of this subgenre is generally recognized to be Edward E. (Doc) Smith, with his Skylark and Lensman series. Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space series, Peter F. Hamilton The Dreaming Void, The Night's Dawn and Pandora's Star series, and the immensely popular Star Wars trilogies are newer examples of this genre. -wikipedia



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Jul 26,2010 3:42pm
i.e. i think it has way more in common with lord of the rings than dune.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 26,2010 4:02pm
Hmmm, nice that someone clarified that



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Jul 26,2010 5:09pm
although it is technically sci-fi lucas borrowed so much from so many other genres its ridiculous. you can see spaghetti westerns, 40s-60s japanese samurai films, old sci-fi serials from the 30s and 40s, religious undertones and fairy tales all put together into one brilliant film series. it really is the "greatest story ever told" all put together in 6 films.



toggletoggle post by demondave at Jul 26,2010 9:01pm











It is only a matter of time before this descends into rule 34 star wars





toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at Jul 26,2010 9:20pm
Where the hell is Dwellingsickness?



toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at Jul 26,2010 9:35pm
Only Stanisław Lem is real



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toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 4,2013 8:02am
So I love the real trilogy just as much as anyone else... After recently rewatching them and studying them to see if there was anything I've ever missed, there is one that stands out the most and is perhaps the biggest flaw in all of Star Wars: Han Solo's hair.
You see, when he was frozen in carbonite with the tibanna gas at the end of The Empire Strikes Back, all is good.
In Return of the Jedi, when he is unfrozen, his hair is different. Who the fuck gave him a hair cut when he was frozen in carbonite? This makes it unrealistic.

I can never view the original trilogy the same.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 4,2013 8:28am
the freezing process caused his hair to shrink back. How dare you question anything about Han Solo.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 4,2013 8:29am
AND THEY ARE TIBANNA GAS MINES. GAWL.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 4,2013 8:31am
wait, that's not even what you meant. you don't freeze with Tibanna gas. GAWL.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 4,2013 8:42am
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Carbonite#topbar

It was mixed with Tibanna gas. Your arrested.



toggletoggle post by ark at Feb 4,2013 8:46am
ZJD said[orig][quote]
My ladyfriend is okay with calling it sci-fi and she is the biggest SW nerd I have ever met so that's good enough for me. I did not read this thread.


she's a girl. it doesn't mean she is wrong, but she's still wrong.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 4,2013 8:48am
Want to cripple Bespin's economy? Slaughter all the beldons. No beldons, no tibanna gas. No tibanna gas, no Bespin.



toggletoggle post by unchain_the_wolves at Feb 4,2013 8:55am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
So I love the real trilogy just as much as anyone else... After recently rewatching them and studying them to see if there was anything I've ever missed, there is one that stands out the most and is perhaps the biggest flaw in all of Star Wars: Han Solo's hair.
You see, when he was frozen in carbonite with the tibanna gas at the end of The Empire Strikes Back, all is good.
In Return of the Jedi, when he is unfrozen, his hair is different. Who the fuck gave him a hair cut when he was frozen in carbonite? This makes it unrealistic.

I can never view the original trilogy the same.


Doesn't it go back to normal later in the film though?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 4,2013 9:01am
Nah, I think it was just a difference in styles between the years the films were released. Same thing with a New Hope.
I just thought it was funny he was frozen in carbonite and you can tell Han Solo (ford) clearly aged and got a hair cut.



toggletoggle post by ærk at Feb 4,2013 9:56am
I can only really watch Empire anymore. I don't think the other movies are really all that good. Empire is the only one that stood my test of time.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 4,2013 10:02am
Pppppppppppppppppffffffffffttttttttttttttttttttttttt



toggletoggle post by ærk at Feb 4,2013 10:10am
well you know what i mean, i have them memorized anyway. I just watched Seven Samurai yesterday and Obi-Wan's character is Samurai #1 to the letter.

Don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars. I'm getting the widescreen fixes for Knights of the Old Republic I and II to play through. KOTOR I is one of my favorite all time games. I've never even touched II.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 4,2013 11:01am
Me either. I was playing the first one the other night but it's too much to swallow right now. Too time consuming.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 5,2013 3:26pm
The phantom menace is the worst piece of crap ever. The only highlight was Liam.
The Gungan king is the same character as the Goblin King in the hobbit. The movie needs more pubes.



toggletoggle post by grow some pubes at Feb 5,2013 3:36pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
The phantom menace is the worst piece of crap ever. The only highlight was Liam.
The Gungan king is the same character as the Goblin King in the hobbit. The movie needs more pubes.



I would respect your answer more if you logged out and troll posted.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Feb 5,2013 3:40pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
The phantom menace is the worst piece of crap ever.
The Phantom Menace at least has the pod race and Darth Maul. Attack of the Clones is the shits. Soooooo boring. Even the name of the movie sucks.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 5,2013 4:05pm
The pod race was atrocious.



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Feb 5,2013 4:09pm
KEVORD said[orig][quote]
Even the name of the movie sucks.


I was able to kid myself into believing I liked Phantom Menace because it was within the high of any new Star Wars movie existing at all. I slowly let go of that contrived aura over the next couple years and a few more viewings of the movie at home. Seeing that first trailer for Attack and coming to the realization that they had actually decided to give the movie that name was the moment where I consciously had to face that this new trilogy just wasn't bringing it.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 5,2013 5:23pm
the only good thing the first 3 movies brought was the first Lego Star Wars, which is a lot of fun.



toggletoggle post by DYA is I FEEL PRETTY at Feb 5,2013 6:38pm
ITT: still not really



toggletoggle post by late_rising at Feb 5,2013 10:03pm



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