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returntothepit >> discuss >> Bush authorizes a (not so) covert military action in Iran. by sacreligion on May 23,2007 2:34pm
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toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 2:34pm
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html

Either this is straight disinformation or ABC news is retarded by posting covert military actions online.

Then again, perhaps they're just doing their job. Or they're pretty biased against the Bush Administration.

Thoughts?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 23,2007 2:41pm
wwwwoooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 2:42pm
i think that's what everyone said



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at May 23,2007 2:43pm
i have a feeling this is not going to go well.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 2:46pm
it's funny that Dick Cheney is all about it. I can't wait for these old fucks to die



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 23,2007 2:47pm
I wonder how many years bush is going to spend in the house and senate after his term for all the scandle investigations. best start practicing his "I do not recall"s now.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 2:48pm
i think the cocaine and alcohol habit would help that along



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 2:50pm
i'm kinda thinking he'll use this and the iraq stalemate(it's not a war) to stay in office longer, saying that it needs to happen or freedom will perish.

the bible belt will eat that up



toggletoggle post by Yeti at May 23,2007 3:11pm
you know, i wouldnt be surprised if he was the first president to campaign to stay in office longer under the guise of "stay the course to victory". i cant believe this was published. this is teetering on the edge of a massive disaster. i mean it has all along, but this is unreal.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 23,2007 3:56pm



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 23,2007 4:02pm
Bloody hell...I really wish the US would stop fucking with other countries, they do this all the time, try to remove an elected government from office and replace them with a tyrannical dictatorship that will sell out the country's resources to outside interests and fuck the people over...then 10 or15 years later we can blame them for something and bomb the shit out of them.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at May 23,2007 4:49pm
HailTheLeaf said:
Bloody hell...I really wish the US would stop fucking with other countries, they do this all the time, try to remove an elected government from office and replace them with a tyrannical dictatorship that will sell out the country's resources to outside interests and fuck the people over...then 10 or15 years later we can blame them for something and bomb the shit out of them.



You don't exist, let alone your opinion.



toggletoggle post by Think_for_Yourself at May 23,2007 5:02pm
By all means. Join in on the band wagon to impeach this administration, elect democrats to have them allow more illegal aliens into the country, give them more rights than US Citizens, and prayer rugs for all as Muslim countries take us over.

COWARDS!!!!!



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at May 23,2007 5:12pm
yea... we are gonna be taken over... we are already run by christian wackos...



toggletoggle post by Think_for_Yourself at May 23,2007 5:16pm
And you don't think muslims will be worse?



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 23,2007 5:20pm
LISTEN TO EVERYTHING BUSH SAYS OR YOU'RE SUPPORTING THE TERRORISTS!

Right?
Right?

Idiot.



toggletoggle post by Think_for_Yourself at May 23,2007 5:21pm
Not quite.

Try and tell me how Kerry/Edwards in office would have been better.



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 23,2007 5:25pm
Why so you can vomit right wing talking points back at me? Nah, I'm good.



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 23,2007 5:26pm
I don't think Kerry/Edwards was even a good alternative. C'mon, that's an old argument anyways. Looking forward is the idea.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at May 23,2007 5:33pm
There was no good candidate that stood a chance of winning the last election, nor do I think there will be one for a long time.



toggletoggle post by contagion   at May 23,2007 5:36pm
all you dumbasses who are getting pissed, this thing bush did PREVENTS military action. fucking retards. we are just going to shit on thier economy a little bit to show them there are more ways than one to fuck with someones shit. i just cant wait for other countries to invade so i can bolt a ton of sheet metal to my car and grab a ton of guns and go road warrior on thier ass.



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 23,2007 5:38pm
you're out of your fucking mind contagion.



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 23,2007 5:47pm
Rob Walton/Ronald Mcdonald 2008.



toggletoggle post by Raycm at May 23,2007 5:49pm
leafs through the writings of Nostradamus to see if he predicted contagion.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 6:32pm
contagion said:
all you dumbasses who are getting pissed, this thing bush did PREVENTS military action. fucking retards. we are just going to shit on thier economy a little bit to show them there are more ways than one to fuck with someones shit. i just cant wait for other countries to invade so i can bolt a ton of sheet metal to my car and grab a ton of guns and go road warrior on thier ass.


if by "prevents" you mean "provokes"...then yes

they might be trying to draw the iranians into a violent reaction to make it seem as if "they started it"

kerry/edwards wouldn't have been able to do much more, but they lack the militant minds that some of you apparently love so much. why promote freedom when you can FORCE IT!



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at May 23,2007 7:28pm
I sense a draft coming.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at May 23,2007 7:35pm
UNCLE SAMSTEIN WANTS YOU AND YOURS TO FIGHT AND DIE FOR ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 23,2007 7:38pm
immortal13 said:
I sense a draft coming.


I sense another 400 reply thread and some long replies from HTL/Hoser/hungtableed coming.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 23,2007 7:52pm
I need to get quite a few years older so their draft won't touch me. didn't they extend it to 38?



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 23,2007 7:53pm
I was expecting that too pam.



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 23,2007 7:56pm


The Military Draft

By Ken Adachi <Editor>
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/draftindex.shtml
Feb. 3, 2004

A mandatory draft is coming and it will come soon. Make no mistake about it. If you have a 'specialty' field such as health care worker or even computer skills (such as a degree in computer science), you could be 'drafted' into government service up to the age limit of 44 years old. You will have no choice in the matter as the Presidential Executive Order has already been signed and has become the "law", without the messy annoyance of congressional voting or debate, of course. The new age limit of conscription will also be pushed up to 36 years (update: June 2006. now changed to 42 years ) of age, not 26 years as was the traditional limit. They have now tied in Selective Service Registration with applying for a driver's licence in some 34 states so far.

One of the articles below touches on staying out of the military based on a claim of Conscientious Objector, but you should explore every possible idea to stay out of the Meat Grinder, not just this traditional technique. Once you're in the military, you're in and you can't do a damn thing about. It's a lot harder to get out or avoid being shot once you're standing on foreign soil wearing your battle gear and your spiffy Nazi style steel helmet taking orders from Sargeant Gung Ho. Even if you register as a Conscientious Objector, you've still registered. They have your name and all your other vital info in order to seek you out. You also need to explore your avoidance options BEFORE they pull off another staged 'terrorist' attack and close the borders and airports.

I voluntarily joined the military many years ago and thought it was the right thing to do. I felt good about it and told others that it was a good way to grow up and see the world. At the time, of course, I thought that the government was legit, that the U.S. was the "good guy" of the world, and that we were 'maintaining the peace' and preventing the spread of communism and all of that brainwashing crap that they keep feeding us, generation after generation. Now I know better. The government is in the hands of satanic, globalist traitors who are following a script to destroy America and its people (from within & without), in order to decimate the only country remaining that could (or would) offer any real opposition to the one world government takeover.

You have to be careful when visiting government web sites from your home computer. They undoubtedly keep record of anyone who visits their sites. If you are a person looking to avoid the draft, you are notifying them that you are interested in this topic, along with your computer ID, etc. Even the Conscientious Objector web sites listed below may be covert operations to gather information on draft resisters. One has no way of knowing for sure, so it's better to go to a library or Internet cafe to visit these sites, or use the home computer of a person who is beyond draft age.

In any event, if you want info sent to you via snail mail, use the PO Box of a business person or of an older friend, but don't send anyone your real name and home address. Please remember, if you list your Social Security number or date of birth, along with your name and address on any sort of application, rental lease, driver's licence, school registration, doctor's office, etc., the government can find you in a micro second. All such computers are tied into big government data collecting computers. Use a PO Box and voice mail number for contact on every form you fill out (don't use your real home address to get a PO Box either. If necessary, find someone who already has a PO Box, and add your name to it). If they insist on a home address, pre-arrange to use the address of a friend or the parents of your friend, or better yet, use your imagination.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 23,2007 8:39pm
if I get drafted, I'm going to take my millions of scene points and move to some 3rd world shithole country and live off my savings until america pardons me (or a catfish swims up my peehole). RTTP will be moving to a server on sealand and all the pictures of shows will involve dudes with their dongs hanging out and djembi drums.

brave new world.



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 23,2007 8:40pm
What chaos!!!



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 11:14pm
in response to the article yummy posted:

that's forcing the assumption that there is indeed a "new world order" that will be taking shape. assuming that everyone involved in politics is like that is absurd, as there is still the slight matter of the election process(granted, bush's election recount scandal is a disgrace to this process but that's because the bush family has oil power and money to throw around.)

the only thing i fear is bush trying to stay in office. if that happens, then there is cause for concern. then again, i said the same thing about iran after the iraq war: "the only thing i fear is bush trying to invade iran. if that happens, then there is cause for concern"

hmmmmmm...dark times ahead, but totally encompassing, they are not



toggletoggle post by Dankill at May 23,2007 11:22pm
The funny thing is that people are acting like us doing black ops against the Iranians is such a bad thing like they haven't been provoking and attacking people since 1979.
Are you kidding? They have been one of the biggest organizers and funders of international terrorism for almost three decades!
If you wanna talk about right now try, funding Hezbollah to destablize Lebannon and attack Israel, Funding, training and arming shia militas and death squads in Iraq and doing the same for the Taliban in Afganistan.
If Iran gets to play black ops with us, please tell me why in the hell should we NOT?



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at May 23,2007 11:31pm
our gas prices are fucked.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at May 23,2007 11:32pm
its gonna be cheaper to clone dinos and kill them and then transport them back in time and bury them near us then to buy a tank of gas.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 23,2007 11:42pm
Dankill said:
The funny thing is that people are acting like us doing black ops against the Iranians is such a bad thing like they haven't been provoking and attacking people since 1979.
Are you kidding? They have been one of the biggest organizers and funders of international terrorism for almost three decades!
If you wanna talk about right now try, funding Hezbollah to destablize Lebannon and attack Israel, Funding, training and arming shia militas and death squads in Iraq and doing the same for the Taliban in Afganistan.
If Iran gets to play black ops with us, please tell me why in the hell should we NOT?


how do you know for a fact they've been funding terrorism? and if so, they haven't been directly responsible for any attacks on the US. While they may be committing black ops in their region, it's their business. We have no right to just show up and say "hey we're america you can't do that."

when there is legitimate proof of them conspiring against us or they provoke us in some way, then it will be justified. this course of action is just self-righteous



toggletoggle post by yummy at May 24,2007 12:13am
I only posted that before to verify the draft age. I don't think I'll be drafted. Although, I do fear that this is just the tip of the iceberg with sending our navy in just to "check things out".



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at May 24,2007 1:09am
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html#comments

check out the comments, they are all
"this is monstrous, you guys are "Traders" to America for airing this"



toggletoggle post by xmikex at May 24,2007 8:45am
Goddamnit, my messageboard quips and photobucket skills are certain to catch the eye of the military recruiters. I'm dead.



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 24,2007 12:56pm
Dankill said:
The funny thing is that people are acting like us doing black ops against the Iranians is such a bad thing like they haven't been provoking and attacking people since 1979.
Are you kidding? They have been one of the biggest organizers and funders of international terrorism for almost three decades!
If you wanna talk about right now try, funding Hezbollah to destablize Lebannon and attack Israel, Funding, training and arming shia militas and death squads in Iraq and doing the same for the Taliban in Afganistan.
If Iran gets to play black ops with us, please tell me why in the hell should we NOT?


Because we can't fucking win. How many more years of disastrous war do you people need to convince you that we cannot beat fucking fundamentalism. I mean for fuck's sake...we're losing in Iraq...why not start another war in Iran and lose that, too? Weeeeee!



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at May 24,2007 1:39pm
I hope we go to war with Iran, those persian actually can stand up to us and put up a fair fight.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 24,2007 2:00pm edited May 24,2007 2:00pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
I hope we go to war with Iran, those persian actually can stand up to us and put up a fair fight.


that's actually probably the worst thing that can happen. i don't think many of you actually realize what this course of action could possibly lead to




toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at May 24,2007 2:06pm
no one would ever use nukes unless they were completely insane, then they would be stopped.

No government, not even the North Korea would ever risk the use of nukes



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 24,2007 2:09pm
that's what this iranian move is all about, because of the fear that they will have nukes in the next couple of years

it's really not that far-fetched



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2007 2:36pm
Since the US is the largest violator of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty I think we should be looking into our own policies before pointing fingers at others. Our illegal occupation of Iraq has caused a massive arms buildup around the world, and I'd love to know how this makes ANYONE safer or does anything but INCREASE terrorism and threat of nuclear war. Our own government is the largest terrorist organization right now. Despite what you were raised to believe, we're not fucking special for dropping out of our mothers on this piece of land, it does not give us special superpowers to tell people who live in other places what to do and act like arrogant fucktards toward the rest of the world with no bad consequences. The minute we get that into our tiny heads the world will be a better place.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 24,2007 2:51pm
you're saying "our tiny heads" as if it applies to all americans

most americans hearts are in the right places, it just so happens that the rest of america's power structure is in the right place



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 24,2007 3:10pm
if we attack iran, the first thing they would do is light off any rocket they have at isreal.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at May 24,2007 3:11pm
no one is going to fire a nuke. ever. whether terrorist or not, we all know whats going to happen.



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at May 24,2007 3:16pm
Kill em all and let allah sort em out




toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at May 24,2007 3:27pm
If ABC News knows about this, you can be sure that Iranian intelligence already knew anyway. This "leak" means nothing.
If this actually works this is a great way to get iranians to start killing each other off so our soldiers don't have to do it. I'd like to see them develop a nuclear program with a civil war going on. Unfortunately, its a Bush plan so its bound to turn into a clusterfuck.
18 more months....




toggletoggle post by Dankill at May 24,2007 8:22pm
So pretty much you're saying that you don't believe that Iran has or ever has anything to do with international terrorism or that they are currently helping train fund and arm people in Iraq attack military and civilian targets?



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 24,2007 11:17pm
do you have any receipts? i'm just saying you can't do it on suspicion...that's what happened when we first went in Iraq. "They're funding terrorists." "They have weapons of mass destruction." "We have to stop Saddam."

While he may have very well been a serious threat and the world might be a better place without him in power, it still was a move that is highly questionable.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at May 25,2007 3:17am


Just as long as we can enslave some of those



toggletoggle post by Yeti at May 25,2007 10:28am
holy fucking shit. that girl is mesmerizing. she reminds me of what Mileena from Mortal Kombat would look like in the flesh. you cant see that Baraka style grill.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 25,2007 11:38am
that's why you gotta go for kitana, man...same person, just no baraka grill



toggletoggle post by HailAtWork at May 25,2007 11:59am
sacreligion said:
do you have any receipts? i'm just saying you can't do it on suspicion...that's what happened when we first went in Iraq. "They're funding terrorists." "They have weapons of mass destruction." "We have to stop Saddam."

While he may have very well been a serious threat and the world might be a better place without him in power, it still was a move that is highly questionable.


Haha, so true, the US never should have put Saddam into power, trained his men, gave him our tax dollars and tons of weapons. Funny huh? We funded terrorism, and now we're funding more terrorism under the guise of preventing it.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 25,2007 12:00pm
it's a lucrative business, war is



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 25,2007 12:00pm
great population control of the poor, as well



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at May 25,2007 12:05pm
HailAtWork said:
sacreligion said:
do you have any receipts? i'm just saying you can't do it on suspicion...that's what happened when we first went in Iraq. "They're funding terrorists." "They have weapons of mass destruction." "We have to stop Saddam."

While he may have very well been a serious threat and the world might be a better place without him in power, it still was a move that is highly questionable.


Haha, so true, the US never should have put Saddam into power, trained his men, gave him our tax dollars and tons of weapons. Funny huh? We funded terrorism, and now we're funding more terrorism under the guise of preventing it.


that's the result of the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" ideology.




toggletoggle post by Yeti at May 25,2007 1:15pm
sacreligion said:
that's why you gotta go for kitana, man...same person, just no baraka grill


hahahaha i bet Jade would do better. she is a nimble little minx.



toggletoggle post by pam   at May 25,2007 1:19pm
FuckIsMySignature said:
HailAtWork said:
sacreligion said:
do you have any receipts? i'm just saying you can't do it on suspicion...that's what happened when we first went in Iraq. "They're funding terrorists." "They have weapons of mass destruction." "We have to stop Saddam."

While he may have very well been a serious threat and the world might be a better place without him in power, it still was a move that is highly questionable.


Haha, so true, the US never should have put Saddam into power, trained his men, gave him our tax dollars and tons of weapons. Funny huh? We funded terrorism, and now we're funding more terrorism under the guise of preventing it.


that's the result of the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" ideology.



My Foreign Policy professor called it the "asshole you know vs asshole you don't know" factor.

"Yeah he's a prick...but he's OUR prick."



toggletoggle post by Dankill at May 25,2007 5:51pm
I'm just saying that it's not like this is new. Intelligence agencies around the world have been saying for a couple decades that Iran is one of the biggest enablers of terrorism since the early 80s.

And saddly, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" isn't going away anytime soon, nor is it new or are we the only ones to do it.
Shit, how do you think the allies felt fighting along side a monster like Stalin in World War II? The Nazis vs the Soviets was one of the biggest "who is worse if they win?" questions ever when you look at how brutal both were and then what happened to eastern europe.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at May 26,2007 12:47am
let's just agree that the world is fucked



toggletoggle post by Dankill at May 26,2007 10:19am
I can always agree on that



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