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returntothepit >> discuss >> OK vegetarians.... by Hoser on Feb 12,2007 1:02am
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toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 1:02am
I am eating a veggie burger right now because my veggie retard friend left some here....and the survey says...??!!

THEY SUCK! You fucking morons...eat meat already....gardenburgers suck hot gay male cock.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 1:04am
Ketchup and mustard can't even cover up this putrid...whiny...ooh I hate to hurt animals taste...

America is failing because of the feminization of man. The same man that eats these wretched fag burgers!!! ROT IN HELL VEGGIE FAGS!!!

I AM PISSED....AND NOW I'M HUNGRY!!



toggletoggle post by miscegenator at Feb 12,2007 1:20am
Suck cock instead. More protein there.



toggletoggle post by the Protagonist at Feb 12,2007 1:53am
thats because Garden Burgers BLOW...try "Gimme Lean"..you actually have to form it like a real burger...throws some cheese,onions and ketchup on them shits...and i bet you its the closest you can get to the real thing. Of course...
you can always felch on cows ass...



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Feb 12,2007 1:57am
I'm not a vegetarian, but I try and avoid eating beef when possible.


has anyone else tried turkey/chicken burgers?

They have replaced beef in my house entirely.


They don't taste like beef that much, but they taste damn good. it's almost like a slightly sweet beef.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 12,2007 2:29am
poultry smells like armpits to me....



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 12,2007 2:31am
ps. i agree on the garden burgers being weak... i think peta is fucking crazy... but im vegan nonetheless.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Feb 12,2007 4:09am
miscegenator said:
Suck cock instead. More protein there.


too bad the human body doesnt process the protein found in semen.



toggletoggle post by Murph nli at Feb 12,2007 6:24am
miscegenator said:
Suck cock instead. More protein there.


and semen for the most part is actually carbohydrate...there isnt much protein



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2007 8:19am
shut up you two. semen is great for your girl's skin and mood when swallowed.

garden burgers do suck. gimme lean is awesome as well as all the Qorn products. the Qorn (not vegan) cheese cutlets are amazing.



toggletoggle post by ~carina~ at Feb 12,2007 8:51am
Quorn is awesome

and people fuck off!!!

to each his own. you don't like it, then don't eat it



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Feb 12,2007 8:57am
Hoser said:

America is failing because of the feminization of man. The same man that eats these wretched fag burgers!!! ROT IN HELL VEGGIE FAGS!!!


amen. The feminization of our culture will be at our own peril.

Also, they're the same fags that wear pink shirts and cry about the U.S. bombing our enemies because they think war has never solved anything.

I think I just may have some bacon tonight



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 12,2007 8:59am
right on Carina. I never give people a hard time about eating meat but I am constantly getting the criticism. Love how that works. As if I am going all day long wishing for a USDA NY sirloin.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Feb 12,2007 9:07am
Corn > Quorn + Korn.

wrap your brain around that one why dont ya.



toggletoggle post by ~carina~ at Feb 12,2007 9:14am
Feb 12,2007 8:59am - yummy]
right on Carina. I never give people a hard time about eating meat but I am constantly getting the criticism. Love how that works. As if I am going all day long wishing for a USDA NY sirloin.
~~~
exactly! If people want to eat meat then they should and vegetarian's shouldn't give them a hard time either.
ps: this thread is lame hoser...and if you search on these types of threads you've already said it...give it a rest..



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2007 9:17am



toggletoggle post by Granny_Monster at Feb 12,2007 9:20am
I stopped eating beef and pork just over the summer and I'm feeling healthier than I have in ages. I'm gonna try to cut down on poultry and fish, as well.

Fuck all y'all!



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 9:24am
I haven't eaten any meat in a week and I'm actually getting a good variety on the food that I eat as opposed to dining on fast food and microwave dinners. But hey, not stuffing a big piece of meat in between a bun and shoving it in my mouth makes me gay, right?



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 12,2007 9:30am
I only like eating things that died screaming in mind-searing pain on a killing room floor.



toggletoggle post by aeser   at Feb 12,2007 9:37am
man you guys are TUFF!



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 9:39am
RichHorror said:
I only like eating things that died screaming in mind-searing pain on a killing room floor.


WE SCREAM FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT SCREAM FOR THEMSELVES



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 12,2007 9:41am
And then I eat the screamers.



toggletoggle post by Rhys  at Feb 12,2007 9:42am
Try the Boca chick'n nuggets. I cover them in bbq sauce and i can't even tell the difference.



toggletoggle post by Rhys  at Feb 12,2007 9:45am
the best thing to do if you're a vegetarian is to not try to eat all the stuff that is supposed to resemble meat. just eat regular food minus the meat



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 9:47am
I went to this Chinese buffet place last night, there's no way it's authentic or anything but usually when I go there I gorge on the fried dumplings or various types of chicken, this time around I tried some wonton, some sauteed mushrooms...I think the stuffed ones had fish in them though. That's some good eating.



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 10:01am
How exactly is not eating meat feminization? Because women don't eat meat? I fucking hate when meat eaters complain about vegetarians/vegans like it's ruining their lives to live on the same planet with people who don't eat dead fucking bodies. Some people just don't dig on dead body.
Also, if you think gardenburgers and all that fake meat shit is all veggies ever eat because all you eat is real meat, then you are an idiot, and if you actually do eat a variety of foods, then what are you complaining about?



toggletoggle post by Granny_Monster at Feb 12,2007 10:03am
Rhys said:
the best thing to do if you're a vegetarian is to not try to eat all the stuff that is supposed to resemble meat. just eat regular food minus the meat


Fake meat products are generally pretty pricey, too.



toggletoggle post by aeser   at Feb 12,2007 10:17am
Rhys said:
the best thing to do if you're a vegetarian is to not try to eat all the stuff that is supposed to resemble meat. just eat regular food minus the meat


how about the best thing to do is eat whatever the fuck you feel like eating and not give a shit what other people eat. you don't have to eat what they eat. relax.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Feb 12,2007 10:26am
ZJD said:
Some people just don't dig on dead body.


I dig on dead body.



toggletoggle post by demondave at Feb 12,2007 11:56am
The anti-vegitarians are vitrolic. They dislike the tinges of guilt they feel, because they know how horribly animals are treated.

I eat meat, but I never had difficulty with vegitarians. I've always been annoyed at the people that bash vegitarians, and use the argument of how pissed they were that one time they challenged a vegan and got into an argument. Afterwards all vegans were somehow out to to get him.....



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Feb 12,2007 12:05pm
hahahaha

the feminization of man? what the fuck are you talking about? not everybody's sense of manhood is intimately tied to consuming gluttonous portions of dead pig and cow.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 12:13pm
I have 8 lbs of Outback prime rib in my fridge.
MMMMMMMMM.



toggletoggle post by c.dEAD at Feb 12,2007 12:36pm
"America is failing because of the feminization of man. The same man that eats these wretched fag burgers!!! ROT IN HELL VEGGIE FAGS!!! "

"THEY SUCK! You fucking morons...eat meat already....gardenburgers suck hot gay male cock.


God that cracked me up. Why is everyone who doesnt eat meat so fucking touchy about this? He's joking for holy anus sake. Can't you just laugh at it? it was funny.




toggletoggle post by ariavette at Feb 12,2007 1:10pm
Niccolai said:
I'm not a vegetarian, but I try and avoid eating beef when possible.


has anyone else tried turkey/chicken burgers?

They have replaced beef in my house entirely.


They don't taste like beef that much, but they taste damn good. it's almost like a slightly sweet beef.


i eat turkey burgers pretty regularly .. not bad.. i completely cover mine in garlic and onions and other spicey things that make it taste better.. but... honestly pretty good...



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Feb 12,2007 1:19pm
as far as this whole vegetarian debate... it is ones own personal decision.. it might be b/c they want to be healthier.. it might be b/c they need to for health reasons.. or they might just not like eating animals...
i really dont think it has anything to do with being manly or not.. if i saw two guys sitting at a table... one with a salad and one with a steak...
i would not think twice about it...
my sister , who i live with is a vegetarian and it doesn't bother me one bit...
yes.. it is in our nature to consume meat... but it is also in our nature to over consume it and turn into a bunch of large couch sitting fat asses...




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2007 1:43pm
I've seen a lot of people putting meat in their mouths... typically whorez in pronz.

when ever I hear a dood talking about eating meat, I have to giggle thinking that he wasn't to take on a juicy cock.



toggletoggle post by Jonah at home at Feb 12,2007 1:52pm
Tofurky rules hardcore



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 2:06pm
I was kidding. I had had wayyyyyy too many to drink and was totally pissed off at how fucking gross that veggie burger was. It really tasted awful, and I was starving.

and Carina, I have said it a million times how vegetarians annoy me. Most vegetarians annoy me because they wear it like it's some sort of moral armband. They make sure that everyone knows how different they are, when the fact is that nobody gives a shit.

I also feel like the scene on this board is that if you aren't vegetarian and don't hate Republicans that you aren't tr00. I could honestly give a shit what your diet consists of or how you vote. I like everyone equally. I love hitting the large exposed nerves that you all carry on your shoulders. It amazes me how you all make this huge effort to be different with your diets, and your politics and come off like you are some fucking moral geniuses. Fact of the matter is that you're all sheep to the same diets, politics, and music as everyone else on the board.

I just enjoy pointing out that I hate vegetarian diets, liberals, and grindcore. I point it out because I like to shove my ideals down everyone's throats just as they shove their "animals feel pain" morality and Republican's don't value human life bullshit down my throat.

Bottom line is, I like you all, but enjoy watching you all shit bricks when I wear my meateater armband and shove my ideals down your throats. It's just my way at firing back. Forgive me for sounding like an asshole but I am writing this without angst. You are all entitled to your opinion as I am mine. It's just that everytime I voice mine....I get attacked by half of the board, and they call me the sheep. Who's the sheep here?

Anyway...I'm ranting now so I better get back to work. I'm sorry if I've brought any of you to tears. Your self-esteem will heal in time.




toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 2:07pm
BTW, that wasn't really directed at you Carina......I just happened to keep typing well beyond what I was saying to you.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 12,2007 2:40pm
Feminization? Almost EVERY vegan/vegetarian I know is male. All my girlfriends loooooove the meat.




toggletoggle post by ariavette at Feb 12,2007 3:31pm
the_reverend said:
I've seen a lot of people putting meat in their mouths... typically whorez in pronz.

when ever I hear a dood talking about eating meat, I have to giggle thinking that he wasn't to take on a juicy cock.


haha... their is a sign at my fav. restaurant that says MEAT MARKET in huge letters.. makes me laugh everytime...



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 3:48pm
That's more or less what I mean, Pam. Guys that won't eat meat?! The same guys with horrible piercings all over themselves, wearing girl pants and acting like they have feelings...ewwwwww.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 4:02pm
Hoser, you're really good at putting words in peoples mouths. I don't recall any threads on this message board where people brought up that they were vegetarian for no reason, never mind seen any threads where people called other people assholes and morons for eating meat. I'm actually seeing some people in this thread I had no idea didn't eat meat. We're all sheep, maybe people with these types of political views all join together on this message board because they actually agree with each other and not because they're sheep who will believe anything? And according to who's sitting in the White House right now, people with the political views you bash and call sheep are a minority. You're just saying you were kidding with your posts to cover your own ass so you don't look bad. You're a fucking pussy who doesn't take the time to observe the world.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 4:04pm
Well then, only one way to settle this:
Fisticuffs.
Dukes to the death.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 12,2007 4:11pm
THIS SATURDAY IN THE OCTAGON: RTTP #1

Norwood Regional Lightweight Title
Joe Christiani vs. xmikex

Open Weight Veggieburger Challenge
Lamp vs. Hoser

The Most Vicious Beating You Will Ever See In Your Entire Life
Fedor Emelianenko vs. Radical Dirt Biker



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 4:14pm
Maybe I'd think this is funny if I thought hoser was kidding, but after seeing countless threads like this, I don't think he is. Being drunk isn't any excuse either, when you're drunk enough that's when your true colors show...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 4:22pm
Wow, you sound like an almanac.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 4:23pm
btw....nice card, Bob.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 4:23pm
I pick Fedor, but I hear RDB has great sprawl.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 4:26pm
powerkok said:
Wow, you sound like an almanac.


Haha, did you inadvertently tell me I sound smart enough to write a book?



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 12,2007 4:27pm
It all depends on whether or not RTTP allows sic airs off the chin. I know they're illegal in UFC and Heroes.

RDB's sic airs are at least 45% siccer than Fedor's so I can see this going either way.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Feb 12,2007 4:50pm
if i was a veggie or vegan i would def give that up in a second for a McRib.

you just cant fuck with that shit, so good.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 4:52pm
I realized I could never be a vegan because cheese is non-negotiable. A world without pizza frightens me.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Feb 12,2007 4:55pm
Lamp said:
I realized I could never be a vegan because cheese is non-negotiable. A world without pizza frightens me.


this man knows the words of truth.



toggletoggle post by hooker nli at Feb 12,2007 5:22pm
worthwhile thread.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2007 5:30pm
all I got out of iit was hoser thinks you are a fggot if you don't like to munch juicy cock.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 6:34pm
Hey Lamp......I'm not saying that people here post about their radical vegetarianism all of the time, but how do you think that I know who here is and isn't a vegetarian? Because at one time or another, it has been posted, along with Bush bashing bullshit. So, how is that me putting words in someone's mouth?

2.) Being drunk is no excuse? No it's not but it certainly gives me the fuel I need to turn into an asshole.

3.) I was kidding you fartbubble. I was putting a flame under the asses of the same people that I've been doing it to for years. You joined the board in 05' which means that before that you were either still hanging off of your momma's teet, or you were a rap kid who discovered some lame band like As I Lay Crying and decided that metal was your new love. By the looks of your faggy picture yer about 17 and don't know shit. So stay outta my rants if yer just gonna come in here and shed tears.

4.) I'm not kidding about this one, you seriously look like a fag. Put on some weight and grow some facial hair....skinny little buttfuck.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2007 6:52pm
hoser wantsa big meaty kiss!



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 6:53pm
As long as it's meat.....real meat.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Feb 12,2007 6:55pm
Protein and carbs are important to your body. Maybe not crap loads of carbs but some.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 7:36pm edited Feb 12,2007 7:36pm
Hoser said:
Hey Lamp......I'm not saying that people here post about their radical vegetarianism all of the time, but how do you think that I know who here is and isn't a vegetarian? Because at one time or another, it has been posted, along with Bush bashing bullshit. So, how is that me putting words in someone's mouth?


I have seen posts of people talking about vegetarianism here and I have never seen it in the same context as Bush bashing bullshit, I think you're just putting two and two together in your own mind.

2.) Being drunk is no excuse? No it's not but it certainly gives me the fuel I need to turn into an asshole.


Turn into an asshole? You're either an asshole or you're not. The alcohol doesn't make you an asshole, it makes you not care whether you're an asshole or not. Good to see you have to live in such a state of anxiety all the time to hide your true self so people don't make fun of you.


4.) I'm not kidding about this one, you seriously look like a fag. Put on some weight and grow some facial hair....skinny little buttfuck.


lolz0rds



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 8:19pm
I live in a state of anxiety because my son will have to grow up in a world full of dipshits who have nothing better to do with their time than sit around and ponder their diet. I was just raised in a different world, that's all. You ate what you were given because your family didn't have the money to support your fashionable diet. You were too busy trying to make enough money to stay alive and support your family to give a shit about animal rights. That's all I'm getting at. We have become a nation of bored pussies that have to make shit up in order to entertain their individuality....in my humble opinion that is.

My feelings on this aren't directed at true vegetarians who have done it for years and stuck to it like it was the word of God. Just the one's that prance around acting like they are sooooo moral and make stupid faces when you tell them how good the barbeque that you went to last weekend was. Or the same ones that bitch about MacDonalds using beef tallow in their frying oil for their french fries....and then try to sue MacDonalds for not disclosing that fact. So they support the restaurants that serve meat in the same packaging as they get their fries, yet they are sooo disgusted when they find out that beef tallow is used in the cooking. These are your fashionable vegetarians. These are the one's that I hate.



toggletoggle post by nagger at Feb 12,2007 8:20pm
i have so much respect for hoser now







except for the homo part



toggletoggle post by Dr. sphincto at Feb 12,2007 8:36pm
i only eat birds,i stay away from pork it is fattening. I don't eat much beef cuz i fear mad cow



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 12,2007 8:40pm
wow, this got a bit blown out of proportion huh? I guess I should have just said I didn't care for garden burgers either.



toggletoggle post by nagger at Feb 12,2007 8:45pm
i hate people that eat meat because they are so awesome!
i hate people that eat veggies and fruit because they are so p.c.!
it's so awesome!
you faggot motherfuckers!



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 8:48pm
Hoser has some good points.
Some people are just bored to the point of looking for problems to fix.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2007 8:50pm
I ordered a grilled veggie sub, no mushrooms with tomatos and um... pickles and got a steak tip sub. I gave it away.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 8:50pm
Hoser said:
I live in a state of anxiety because my son will have to grow up in a world full of dipshits who have nothing better to do with their time than sit around and ponder their diet. I was just raised in a different world, that's all. You ate what you were given because your family didn't have the money to support your fashionable diet. You were too busy trying to make enough money to stay alive and support your family to give a shit about animal rights. That's all I'm getting at. We have become a nation of bored pussies that have to make shit up in order to entertain their individuality....in my humble opinion that is.

My feelings on this aren't directed at true vegetarians who have done it for years and stuck to it like it was the word of God. Just the one's that prance around acting like they are sooooo moral and make stupid faces when you tell them how good the barbeque that you went to last weekend was. Or the same ones that bitch about MacDonalds using beef tallow in their frying oil for their french fries....and then try to sue MacDonalds for not disclosing that fact. So they support the restaurants that serve meat in the same packaging as they get their fries, yet they are sooo disgusted when they find out that beef tallow is used in the cooking. These are your fashionable vegetarians. These are the one's that I hate.


Okay, this is a respectable rant. I don't really have much to say and I've never really been much of a vegetarian myself(I'm trying it right now for the hell of it really) but I will say, don't you think it's a good thing now that people have that option to choose the kind of foods they eat or to think about these things at all? Or maybe it's just been that way for some and not you in which case I have nothing to say because I had no control over the way you lived your life when you were my age(I'm 19 by the way).

I haven't eaten McDonalds in at least 6 years, not so much to champion some kind of cause, but because their food sucks and the smell of the establishment repulses me.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 12,2007 8:52pm
We are a nation of bored pussies was his only good point



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 12,2007 8:58pm
Hey lamp, do you remember when the Ronald Mcdonald statue in NKRI was stolen. It was great. It read like a missing persons report. "6 feet tall, last seen wearing big red shoes, yellow coat with red and white striped sleeves". true story from the police beat.



toggletoggle post by Eddie  at Feb 12,2007 9:06pm
wow, unless vegetarians are force feeding you veggie burgers, fuck off.

It seems like you just have a problem with rich kids rather than vegetarians. The two aren't correlated.



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 9:21pm
Eddie said:
wow, unless vegetarians are force feeding you veggie burgers, fuck off.

It seems like you just have a problem with rich kids rather than vegetarians. The two aren't correlated.


Most intelligent post yet.

Also, just putting it out there, when a meat eater complains about vegetarians/vegans hassling them, it's because it's annoying. When vegans/vegetarians complain about meat eaters, it's because they are aiding a holocaust. Just saying.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 9:29pm
ZJD said:
it's because they are aiding a holocaust.


Are you fucking kidding me?
A holocaust?
Gimme a fucking break. So since there has been hunger, the carnivores are commiting genocide?

HUNGER-CAUST!!!!

Vegans can say whatever they want, but at the end of the day, Im eating a nice rare steak.
They could outlaw it, and I would kill my own nice rare steak.
So I have no complaints.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 12,2007 9:34pm
You would kill your own nice rare steak.



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 9:37pm
powerkok said:
ZJD said:
it's because they are aiding a holocaust.


Are you fucking kidding me?
A holocaust?
Gimme a fucking break. So since there has been hunger, the carnivores are commiting genocide?

HUNGER-CAUST!!!!

Vegans can say whatever they want, but at the end of the day, Im eating a nice rare steak.
They could outlaw it, and I would kill my own nice rare steak.
So I have no complaints.


It has nothing to do with eating meat, eating meat is not inherently wrong, or wrong at all in my opinion, but the only thing that could possibly keep the factory farming industry from being considered a holocaust is if it can only be that of humans by definition. Factory farms function on breeding animals into a world of total shit and keeping them alive long enough to be slaughtered, often in a terrible way, always on a mass scale. That's a fucking holocaust.

If you want to kill your own nice rare steak, you are a better man than he who who would rather eat at MacDonalds.




toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Feb 12,2007 9:42pm
yummy said:
Hey lamp, do you remember when the Ronald Mcdonald statue in NKRI was stolen. It was great. It read like a missing persons report. "6 feet tall, last seen wearing big red shoes, yellow coat with red and white striped sleeves". true story from the police beat.


Hahaha, no I don't remember this, how long ago was it? I moved to this town in September of 2000.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Feb 12,2007 9:46pm
maybe 97, oh well...it was funny



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 10:55pm
"a world of total shit"

Is that the scientific term?



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 11:06pm
No.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 12,2007 11:13pm
honestly people if you eat meat mind your own bussiness and if u dont .... mind your own bussiness.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 11:16pm
and if you can't spell "business" properly....mind your own damned business!!!



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 11:28pm
sxealex said:
honestly people if you eat meat mind your own bussiness and if u dont .... mind your own bussiness.


I don't know, man. I try not to be too preachy and stuff but this thread is all about that so I don't feel too bad about it.
I'm vegan. When people say it's a personal choice and stuff, I can't help but think that they don't get it. Veganism isn't doing much for me, I'm probably a little healthier than before but that's about it. I'm not vegan to be "pure" or something so it isn't about me, it's about the rest of the world. Veganism is only a personal choice insofar as people choose it, it's voluntary, but it isn't personal when what a person eats/buys contributes to mass torture, you know? It's like saying "Hey man, I don't rag on you for not raping people, but it's my personal choice to be a rapist, okay? Jeez."



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 11:28pm
And now the rape jokes.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 12,2007 11:33pm
I believe the proper spelling is "bid-ness"



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Feb 12,2007 11:37pm
If veganism is so healthy that why are most of them skinnier than an anorexic run way model? We have canine teeth for a reason and that reason is not to chew bark and acorns.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 12,2007 11:39pm
Bark is an excellent source of nutrition when you're lost out in the woods and you have no food and you can't move because a tree fell on your leg and it's getting cold and dark and you hear wolves...as a daily meal, not so much.



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 12,2007 11:46pm
hung_to_bleed said:
If veganism is so healthy that why are most of them skinnier than an anorexic run way model? We have canine teeth for a reason and that reason is not to chew bark and acorns.


The reason most of the vegans you see are stick figures is because most of the vegans around who wear it on their sleeves are indie/emo/whatever kids that have to be skinny to fit into their girl pants. It has nothing to do with veganism, and I'm certainly not skinny. www.veganbodybuilding.com

We don't have canine teeth like lions, our teeth are made to eat mostly plantlife, try tearing something apart with just your mouth. Our digestive system isn't really built to handle raw meet like natural carnivores either, that's why people who eat raw meat get sick and die.

We are defintiely capable omnivores, but that doesn't mean we aren't designed to eat a ton of plant-based food and it doesn't mean we are designed to eat nearly as much meat as we do. Also, who's eating acorns and bark?




toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 12,2007 11:48pm
ZJD said:
sxealex said:
honestly people if you eat meat mind your own bussiness and if u dont .... mind your own bussiness.


I don't know, man. I try not to be too preachy and stuff but this thread is all about that so I don't feel too......


We live in a democracy and the best way to change other people is through law... Im vegan too but i dont see outlawing cattle farming(the worlds most resource depleting, polluting and inefficient practice) in our near future... If you do go for it ill support you.




toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 11:54pm
What about all of the rodents who's natural habitat soy farming destroys regularly? Or all of the animals killed in the harvesting process? I'll bet that there are more deaths from farming crops than there are deaths from slaughter for meat.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 12,2007 11:58pm
Ya, what about the shrew?
Its the only poisonous rodent in North America, yet they are vanishing by the 1000's everyday due to cigarettes and motorcars.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 12,2007 11:59pm
im vegan im not a jainist buddy



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 13,2007 12:01am edited Feb 13,2007 12:04am
Totally, tons of field animals die in the harvesting of wheat/soybeans/etc., but the same goes for the harvesting of what cattle eat, and there's way more of that (something like 80 percent of all crops grown in america are to feed animals on factory farms). By eating factory farmed meat, I'm not only supporting that, but also the deaths of WAY more field animals than those killed in harvesting people-food. Also, a mouse that gets eaten up in a thresher didn't spend it's whole life in a dark box getting pissed on by other mice. Like I said, killing your own cows for beef is far better than buying supermarket beef because it eliminates the most horrible aspects (unless you torture your own cows anyways for some reason, in which case I guess you would just suck).

As far as taking over habitat space for growing things, if factory farming wasn't in place, that 80% could be freed up for all sorts of animals/people to live on or to grow more food for people.



toggletoggle post by sonofabeotch at Feb 13,2007 12:03am
toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 12,2007 11:54pm
What about all of the rodents who's natural habitat soy farming destroys regularly? Or all of the animals killed in the harvesting process? I'll bet that there are more deaths from farming crops than there are deaths from slaughter for meat.

Dude..i eat meat and I know theres no way that could be true. The meat industry slaughters millions of animals EVERY year. Look at any McDonalds sign with the slogan Billions and Billions served...do the mathematics...you
cant tell me that soy farming does that...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 13,2007 12:05am
McDonalds dosent use real beef.
Question answered.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 13,2007 12:05am
Think about it.....when have you EVER seen a real hamburger that looked like that?



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Feb 13,2007 12:06am edited Feb 13,2007 12:07am
powerkok said:
McDonalds dosent use real beef.
Question answered.


McDonalds doesnt use good beef. That doesn't mean there's no dead cow in your Big Mac.

Fun Fact - I read somewhere that most McDonalds patties contain significant traces of poo.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Feb 13,2007 12:07am
yea i agree with that... there are plenty of reasons... such as the ability to support 22 times more food per cow... but we will be arguing with people who if we "win the argument" will tell us to fuck off in the end so there is really no point at all. I could never farm my own personal cow/ hunt for my own food... nor would I feel like it. this is why im vegan. Plus right now meat is gross to me.



toggletoggle post by charlton heston at Feb 13,2007 12:07am



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 13,2007 12:07am
not my big mac.
I dont eat that garbage.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 13,2007 12:08am
'YOU GOTTA TELL EM!!!! IT'S PEOPLE.....SOYLENT GREEN IS PEEEEEEOPLLLEEEEEEE!!'



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