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returntothepit >> discuss >> How do we make Boston metal again? by EriktheViking on Jan 18,2007 4:36pm
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toggletoggle post by EriktheViking at Jan 18,2007 4:36pm
This shouldn't be rocket science. Boston mentality is a Metal mentality.

But not enough Metal music to go around. What gives?

Besides the obvious solutions (like rounding up the Emo kids and executing them) what do you think can be done about getting more bands into more venues? There are enough places to play, especially in what used to be a Metal hotbed (so I'm told), Allston.

What's the problem? Not enough believers? Suspicious venue owners?



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jan 18,2007 4:38pm
move Boston to Worcester.



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 18,2007 4:40pm
I think the issue is a decent venue. There are some good places to play in Boston, but nothing large enough to hold a "fest", or one willing to take the chance on holding one.



toggletoggle post by deadlikedave at Jan 18,2007 4:41pm
i think there are more than enough good metal bands in boston right now...the only thing i dont like is not enough all ages/18+ venues around.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jan 18,2007 4:42pm
21+ shows, poor promotion, and current shitty youth music movements



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 18,2007 4:43pm
all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 18,2007 4:45pm
there are all kinds of good metal bands around here. i think we have a better "scene" in MA than in most parts of the world. i can usually find 1 or 2 good local shows to go to every week.



toggletoggle post by EriktheViking at Jan 18,2007 4:46pm edited Jan 18,2007 4:49pm
Your ideas are interesting to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, Atreu77.

Well, I thought the scene was decent too, until O'Briens decided to close for a while and that ripped a huge chunk out of it. I know it's coming back, but I wish I didn't have to rely on it and maybe 1 or 2 places in Quincy (which is hard to get to for me).



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 18,2007 4:47pm
people are stupid



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 18,2007 4:47pm
metal is stupid



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 18,2007 4:47pm
thank you, i think?



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Jan 18,2007 4:49pm
It's hard to make Boston metal when Godsmack and Diecast are big Boston bands.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 18,2007 4:53pm
There is a bunch of shows at the skybar and Deedee's coming up. There is plenty of local metal in the Boston area.



toggletoggle post by brad nli at Jan 18,2007 5:12pm
fuck metal



toggletoggle post by aeser   at Jan 18,2007 5:28pm
am i the only one that notices plenty of fucking metal bands and metal shows going on in boston? you ever clicked on the events page on this very site?



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Jan 18,2007 5:33pm
Boston is a very metal city indeed. It just seems the bands that make it big out of Boston make it look bad.

Diecast? Godsmack? Bury Your Dead? Killswitch Engage?

Case closed.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 18,2007 5:34pm
who gives a shit? just go to metal shows. there are enough in the area.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 18,2007 5:35pm
dreadkill said:
who gives a shit? just go to metal shows. there are enough in the area.





toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 18,2007 5:39pm
Not enough music isn't Boston's problem.

If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands.


I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night?

If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success.


Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them).


Just a theory.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 18,2007 5:40pm
Niccolai said:
Not enough music isn't Boston's problem.

If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands.


I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night?

If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success.


Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them).


Just a theory.


i agree with you




toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Jan 18,2007 5:42pm
That's why I'm not in a band and you thought it was just my shitty lack of talent.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 18,2007 5:48pm
dreadkill said:
Niccolai said:
Not enough music isn't Boston's problem.

If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands.


I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night?

If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success.


Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them).


Just a theory.


i agree with you



ya i do agree on that. 1 not enough quality fanzines or website or stuff like that. this is the only metal web site i really go to on the regular. 2 it sucks having to hear like 5 shitty bands to listen to one good band.3 i dont think any of this is ever gonna change



toggletoggle post by babyshaker nli at Jan 18,2007 5:48pm
^^ me



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 18,2007 5:50pm
Once O'Briens opens up again everything will be cool. I don't understand why more than half the people in this thread bitch about the metal scene when they've done nothing to be apart of it and fail to support it on a regular basis. Go to shows, buy merch, and get to know your fellow headbangers, it's as simple as that.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SCENE THEN LEAVE.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 18,2007 5:51pm edited Jan 18,2007 5:54pm
Also, I think the LAST thing the boston metal scene needs is a good venue in the 'shows all the time' sense.

You might think that, but that's what hardcore though before Romans.

Romans is a cool venue with shows every friday, but the thing is, since there are shows in brockton EVERY friday, whenever local bands play there it's hard to turnout more than 70 people. The reason is because everyone in that scene has been to brockton so many times and seen the bands that play there so many times that it slowly looses it's appeal.

Boston needs a venue that has a show about twice a month, and books a good out of state headliner. The venue would need to be very consistant with schedualing, all ages, and would need good promotion. Venues leave promotion up to the bands to much. That would mean people wouldn't lose interested in going to the venue like if it had shows multiple times a week, there would be better turnouts, the bands would get paid well, and it would be over all more unifying.



Bands also need to play fewer shows. Alot of bands are like "we want to play every weakend, as many shows as possible, ect". It's very important for bands to schedual their shows in balance. If you play 7 nights a week every week, who the hell is going to come out and see if you if they already have 90000 times?

Under those conditions, Massachusetts bands would flourish instead of struggling to keep there head above water with 9 million other bands every weakend.


Again. Just a theory.



toggletoggle post by Revocation at Jan 18,2007 5:55pm
more basement shows and bigger clubs that are willing to give metal a chance. and I hole heartedly agree with Niccolai. Everyone and their mother has a fuckin band these days and the vast majority of them suck. No one comes out to shows cause people are like "of you've got a band thats cool but you should check out my band "Tear Stained Wrists" we got tons of friends on myspace and we have sic breakdowns we are playing some hall in eastbum fuck this friday"



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 18,2007 5:56pm
god. 70 people would be awesome at a show.

that's how fucking sad i am as a musician.

-hooker



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 5:57pm edited Jan 18,2007 5:58pm
haha

I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed.

You want the scene to improve? Go to shows. Support local bands. Support your scene. It isn't fucking rocket science.

Get killed.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 18,2007 5:57pm
Also, Fests every once in a while would be a massive help. Chariot of fire fest, bostons dead, bitter end fest, ect.

Nothing better and more unifying for metal than hundreds of kids in one room to see a handful of bands play.

a much better alternative to 30 bands playing 6 different venues on the same night with a 50 person turnout in each one.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 18,2007 6:00pm
RichHorror said:
haha

I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed.


Not having a car, not being 21, not having a job, and being 30 miles away from boston prevents me from seeing as many shows as I would like, but that doesn't mean I haven't booked and played enough shows to realize what would increase turnout...



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 6:02pm
I never hear you bitching about the scene, because you are actually a part of it.

Most geniuses who spout what needs to be done to fix everything are lameass motherfuckers that listen to some generic mediocre radio bullshit and go to like five shows a year.



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 18,2007 6:03pm
I support RichHorror for president



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 18,2007 6:04pm
more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS!



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 6:07pm
Everyone under 21, go to shows that are all ages or 18+. Support the bands that play those shows.

People 21 and over, go to all the shows that pique your interest. Support all the bands.

Promoters, actually promote your own shows. Have a brain in your fucking head and put together a good bill. Don't be a lazy jew-y faggot and make bands sell tickets so you they can play to nobody just so you can pay your headliner's guarantee without having to get off your ass.

Bands, don't be fucking retarded and sell tickets or do pay-to-play gigs. Go to shows. Network with other bands. Get your name out there. Don't shit talk other bands like a bunch of fucking women. Actually flyer for the shows you play.

Again. It's not hard. Just get off your ass and do something.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 6:08pm
BornSoVile said:
more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS!


This man knows.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 18,2007 6:09pm
BornSoVile said:
more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS!


You know what happens to kids who sneak into the chopping block?



.. Let me just say that's why it's called the chopping block.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 6:10pm
That's when you listen from outside with Dissector and Cara.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 18,2007 6:10pm
come on niccolai, you never met the door guys there, they woulda let you in!



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 18,2007 6:15pm
I missed out on sooo many good shows there. I wish I were old enough to choose not to legally drink.



toggletoggle post by shamash at Jan 18,2007 6:34pm
"Don't worry, Boston isn't a big college town" - Spinal Tap



toggletoggle post by Napoleon_Blownapart at Jan 18,2007 6:35pm edited Jan 18,2007 6:37pm
EriktheViking said:


What's the problem? Not enough believers? Suspicious venue owners?


We need the Mission (gay)Bar to close and the Choppin' Block to come back. That's a step in the right direction.

edit: Didn't see this has already been brought up. MY B YO.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 6:36pm
I walked in that place to see if they had any info on the owner of the Block. That place is a menace and needs to be demolished.



toggletoggle post by Napoleon_Blownapart at Jan 18,2007 6:38pm
That coked-up little irish sprite wouldnt even serve me two beers at the same time. BITCH you dont know me! The Block would never deny me that...



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 6:39pm
I'd like to see the metrosexual jock homo doorguy raped and killed.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 18,2007 7:07pm
ConquerTheBaphomet said:
Boston is a very metal city indeed. It just seems the bands that make it big out of Boston make it look bad.

Diecast? Godsmack? Bury Your Dead? Killswitch Engage?

Case closed.


Every city has big name bands that suck ass and misrepresnt their respective scenes. You think Zox represents the real underground Providence scene at all?

With that said...

FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 18,2007 7:09pm
Niccolai said:
I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans.


I was going to say the same thing but you already said it.

Also, I think the huge number of bands makes things competitive. Whether anybody wants to admit it or not, everybody's so fucking hellbent on doing shit for their own bands that they never help anybody out. The scene now is just a bunch of bands working alone and pushing everybody else out of the way to try to get ahead. Of course there are exceptions, though.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 18,2007 7:09pm
Additionally....




toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 18,2007 7:12pm
ha



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 18,2007 7:13pm
Boston is realy not very "metal". But it seems more "metal" than it was afew years ago.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 7:16pm
This goes back to what Niccolai was saying about Brockton... how much more metal do you need Boston to be? Go look at the events page on this site. Basically every week, there's metal shows. Do you want them every night? That's fucking retarded, if so. Oversaturation is death.



toggletoggle post by THE UNITY RAINBOW WARRIOR at Jan 18,2007 7:20pm
I think the EASTCIDE re-union show will be the kizzzick in the pizzantz the scene needs.Word is bond son.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 7:21pm
I can't argue with that.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 18,2007 7:23pm
Shows afew times a week is cool. But it's certain kinds of metal that is lacking in boston. I don't mean to sound like tool. But that's the way I feel.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 18,2007 7:28pm
yeah, there are way too many death metal, metalcore, and deathcore bands around, but there's plenty of variety around here.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 7:30pm
That's called 'the shit I like isn't around here'. The sort of stuff that is on the top of my list isn't around here either. Or in this part of the country. You move to Europe, I'll move to the west coast.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 18,2007 7:32pm
I'm taking the next ticket to the San Francisco bay area.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 18,2007 7:33pm
RichHorror said:
The sort of stuff that is on the top of my list isn't around here either.


Ditto.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 7:34pm
This thread would be more accurate if it was titled 'There are too many queer bands that I don't like in Boston'.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 7:36pm edited Jan 18,2007 7:43pm
Around here, the only metal bands I like play thrash, for the most part. And a lot of the thrash bands I think are shitty and gay because they play more of the european-melodic style. Teratism is gone, so BOE is the only death metal band I really like. Anything else I like that's local isn't really 'metal'. Or isn't from Massachusetts.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 18,2007 8:00pm
Rich has it right. Go to fucking shows. Problem solved.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 8:00pm
I have everything right all the time.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 18,2007 8:02pm
Obviously some people need to be reminded of that.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 8:06pm
Anyone who disagrees with me has their name legally changed to Cunty McShitballs.



toggletoggle post by THE UNITY RAINBOW WARRIOR at Jan 18,2007 8:06pm
Yo Jake D! Bring the nizzoise to these perpatratorz.Boston Metal Beats-Whut!YA HEARD?!!!!



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jan 18,2007 8:08pm
I basically will agree with the general sentiment of this thread, and say:

"Stop being such a humongous faggot and go to more shows."

There's a shitload of metal around now, especially compared to a couple of years ago. Stop complaining and enjoy it while it lasts.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 8:09pm
EAT CHINESE FOOD OR DIE.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 18,2007 8:09pm
Is there really more than there was a couple of years ago? I think it's about the same.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 18,2007 8:11pm
It seems like there's more now.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 8:12pm
Yeah, it is. It's just some bands that are around now weren't back then or didn't play as many shows with the mainstay bands.

To me, a lot of bands broke up and no new bands stepped up to more or less take their place as 'mainstay' type bands. Maybe that's just me, though.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jan 18,2007 8:16pm
Maybe it's that more of the gay music I'm into is around now. *shrug*

There seems to be a lot more shows, though.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 8:19pm
I don't see it. O'Briens and The Choppin' Block were both places that regularly had solid shows. Even when O'Briens is back, that is it. Hopefully The Skybar becomes such a place, but it still remains to be seen.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 18,2007 8:52pm
There needs to be more venues... Reflections just made a new policy to only allow cover bands So I hear... Thats gay.. Riot and burn the place I say



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 8:54pm
Reflections in Chelmsford? Or the junkie one in New Bedford?



toggletoggle post by selloutd0od at Jan 18,2007 9:03pm
Reflections in Chelmsford..



toggletoggle post by selloutd0od at Jan 18,2007 9:04pm
Torch it



toggletoggle post by chris_from_shit_fuck  at Jan 18,2007 9:05pm
RichHorror said:
haha

I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed.

You want the scene to improve? Go to shows. Support local bands. Support your scene. It isn't fucking rocket science.

Get killed.




Agree 100%!!



toggletoggle post by selloutd0od at Jan 18,2007 9:05pm
But thats what I've heard.. Rich.. I haven't actually seen any notice or anything.. I was told by a neighbor @ our jamspace the other night



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 18,2007 9:08pm
Pretty lame. No big shock though. It had good sound and everything, just didn't do a lot with it.



toggletoggle post by selloutd0od at Jan 18,2007 9:11pm
Yeah.. They had ALOT of 1 pm shows and stuff.. No one wants to go to a show in the afternoon.. Same thing with Harpers Ferry.. They have those saturday afternoon shows.. = Gay



toggletoggle post by timmy porphyria at Jan 18,2007 10:58pm
atreu77 said:
all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do



yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jan 19,2007 12:05am
1. rich, i believe i will start disagreeing with you ONLY so my name is legally changed to cunty mcshitballs.

2. if i eat chinese food i die. so i guess cunty mcshitballs is a dead man.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 19,2007 12:13am
MarkFuckingRichards said:
i guess cunty mcshitballs is a dead man.


... if only.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Jan 19,2007 12:18am
Boston was never overtly Metal anyways.
Always dominated by hardcore and punk.
Metal is alive and well in the rural New England. Always was always will be.
Where do you think most of these nameless metallers that are packing venues like the Palladium and Middle East are driving from?




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 19,2007 12:28am
FuckIsMySignature said:
move Boston to Worcester.





toggletoggle post by Troll at Jan 19,2007 12:37am edited Jan 19,2007 12:40am
Metal people should be more assertive in their local area and take more of a D.I.Y. stance. It takes some work but you can build a scene in your hometown from the bottom up. Berlin NH is a good example. You don't need to drive 200 miles out of town to see a good show but people were willing to drive 200 miles (or more in some cases) to our area at one point. It's kinda slowed down a bit lately but the repercussions of our activities have already influenced another generation of kids that look like they will one day carry the torch and Keep The Fucking Metal Flame Alive!))))))))))) < btw, thats an echo



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jan 19,2007 9:25am
fests suck
marathon shows suck
most local metal bands suck
i'm not getting out of bed for anything less than Entombed



toggletoggle post by passerby at Jan 19,2007 10:36am
I would make vulgar tattoos mandatory and a drug dependency necessary.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 19,2007 10:41am
Archaeon said:
21+ shows, poor promotion, and current shitty youth music movements


you just summed it up.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 19,2007 10:43am
RichHorror said:
Yeah, it is. It's just some bands that are around now weren't back then or didn't play as many shows with the mainstay bands.

To me, a lot of bands broke up and no new bands stepped up to more or less take their place as 'mainstay' type bands. Maybe that's just me, though.


i have to agree, though alot of bands arent given the credit they deserve because the mindset is "you arent old school". i mean not all, but there are some.



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Jan 19,2007 11:05am
It's been said already but the answer is painfully fucking simple... GO TO SHOWS.. there, now we have an awesome, crazy, fun metal scene. It's that.fucking.simple.

Also when bands desperate to put 'we played with so-and-so' on their presskit are willing to whore themselves out to paytoplay venues like Mark's, you are enabling those scumbags. If no bands would work with them, they wouldnt be able to pay the tour guarantees without doing any work, and they wouldnt be doing metal shows because then the lazy shits would actually have to promote to make back their money.

There'll always be bands willing to buy into that pay-to-play shit though, so Mark's and it's ilk will continue to thrive and more and more great tours will be coming to Bedford, NH as their only Northeast date instead of Boston or Worcester.

There are alot of bands that I respect and am cool with that have done the Mark's pay to play bullshit, so no offense to them, but I would never do it. And imo, nobody should be doing it.





toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jan 19,2007 12:05pm
Some guido skanks from Jersey were in my cab the other night asking me if I knew of any good clubs near their hotel (in Newton) I tried to con them into going to DeeDee's but they weren't biting.

So I took them to Lansdowne Street via Somerville because they weren't supporting the scene.



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Jan 19,2007 12:07pm
dee dee's? newton?



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 19,2007 12:39pm
Mark's sucks and so does Worcester. That is all.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 19,2007 12:41pm
haha Worcester has alot of potential to be a focal point. its unfortunate that its practically overrun with scenesters.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 19,2007 12:51pm
Worcester is full of elitist douchebags (obviously not EVERYONE but most), shady clubs, and raft-floaters. I'll take Boston, thanks.



toggletoggle post by MadOakDevin  at Jan 19,2007 12:55pm
i didn't know Boston had a problem with the metal scene? i worked at O'Brien's for a few months and the metal shows were always the best shows. Even though there were a few people who have shitty attitudes and can't get over the fact that you CAN be nice and metal and the same time, metal did great there.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 19,2007 1:06pm
O'B's shows were always my favorite.



toggletoggle post by EriktheViking at Jan 19,2007 1:48pm
Oh yeah, I went to OB's for months and they had great stuff like Heavy Metal Breakdown and the Atomic BBQ. It feels to me though like once OB's shut down, the bottom fell out of the local scene. Sure, the occasional show at Skybar or in Quincy, but no more local hang-out type place.

Oh, and I sure as hell didn't plan on starting a flame war. Sorry.

Maybe there's a way people can help promote the bands? Dedicated fans handing out flyers/stickers/etc.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 19,2007 2:26pm
timmy porphyria said:
atreu77 said:
all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do



yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag.


atreu= a charecter from the never ending story. no need to badmouth people you don't know, or the reason behind their user names



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jan 19,2007 2:34pm
anonymous said:
timmy porphyria said:
atreu77 said:
all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do



yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag.


atreu= a charecter from the never ending story. no need to badmouth people you don't know, or the reason behind their user names



truth




toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 2:36pm
oops, that was my ann. post. all i was trying to say is that these kids(i.e middle school) listen to poop the media giants feed them. they have little to no idea about musician ship, since all the stuff they listen to is manufactured in a studio. ps- thanks, fuck!



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 2:37pm
OB's smelled funny the last time I was there(October, I think...on my birthday actually)

there's nothign wrong with Worcester, it just scares outsiders...there's a lot of cool, good bands from here and the surrounding areas

i think not enough people go to shows because they're poor...it's the truth...they'd much rather spend $10 to get shitty at home then go out to pay $5+ for a cover and another $20+ on beer, not to mention gas and food and such

it's a sad reality but i think it's true...that and the fact that there really isn't an AWESOME band from around here anymore...there's a lot of good bands, but not one that everyone can get behind.

the genre divisions are killing it as well. when i used to go to gay nu-metal shows there'd be all sorts of different types of bands, but every person would stay and watch every band, that's a rare occurrence now



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 2:40pm
also, a lot of people on here don't recognize what goes on outside of the metal scene...there are a ton of rock bands, rap groups, younger metalcore bands, techno, etc. that you'd never hear about but draw huge numbers to their shows

the fact of the matter is that not many people really like metal



toggletoggle post by Dar  at Jan 19,2007 2:55pm
Too many 21+ venues is what always killed it for me
For the handful of local bands that I liked enough to actually go out just to see them, I'd say 80% of the shows in MA where at a venue I couldn't get into

and a good deal of the smaller nationals as well
also to me looking at the lineups of a lot of local shows...it often didn't seem like bands were booked based on a common sound, maybe just slapped together cuz of mutual friends or whatever

here in san francisco where I'm still really new to the scene, there are numerous tiny "underground" all ages venues that frequently put on metal shows, there's the Gilman which is also all ages (usually punk shows but GHOUL are playin there soon) and if you go to a show where a band like Hatchet or Fog of War (local thrash bands) are playing, the bill will most likely have 3 or 4 other thrash bands on it too.



toggletoggle post by timmy porphyria at Jan 19,2007 3:07pm
FuckIsMySignature said:
anonymous said:
timmy porphyria said:
atreu77 said:
all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do



yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag.


atreu= a charecter from the never ending story. no need to badmouth people you don't know, or the reason behind their user names



truth



atreu character = gay atreyu band = gay, divide the sum of these two parts and add retards and you get ultra gay squared.


maybe I'm just sick seeing people post stupid shit on here, maybe I'm being an asshole, but you're definitely right about one thing, I don't need to know people to badmouth them. kewl kewl troo kvlt LOFL ROFL OMFG.

If you want to bring metal back in boston get your fat ass off the computer and start a band that will blow every other band in the area out of the water. Then when those stoooooopid middle school kids start showing up to your shows, buy your merch and provide your gas money to get home, and put food in your stomach you can get your fat ass back on the computer and talk shit to the rejects who make fun of those very same kids. Bottom line is we need all the kids we can get because bands playing for bands sure as shit isn't getting the job done. So shut the fuck up and do something positive in the (minimal) metal scene around here. So what if the kids' parents are loaded? Their fault? no. So what if they're in middle school? Yeah kid grow up faster so you can be old and waste your life on return to the pit and bitch about the scene. They are the future for this scene, so lets degrede them because they're impressionable and young and watch MTV and drives dad's cadillac on the weekend, good plan. Because I love playing in front of TS, BMR, Goreality and Abnormality every show. Fuck anyone else seeing me play.
gay



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 3:10pm
haha no one else gets it tim



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 3:33pm
woah? what are you talking about? #1- i'm not talking shit
#2- i was just offering up an opinion on a public forum
#3- i have no idea who the band atreu is.
i was simply stating the fact that underaged kids need to be exposed to as many different types metal, since all they really get is the stuff from mtv, vh1 and the radio.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 3:35pm
dude you're not metal unless you know who atreyu is so you can make fun of them



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 3:37pm
i never made fun of a band named atreu. i have the name because i happen to like the never ending story



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 3:37pm
and i'm not a dude



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 3:51pm
dude you totally missed the point of what i was saying dude



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 3:51pm
re-punctuated

Sacreligion said:
dude, you're not metal unless you know who atreyu is...so you can make fun of them





toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 19,2007 3:51pm
point taken



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 19,2007 3:52pm
You wanna know another reason boston turnouts aren't as good as they could be?

People are bashing that atreu77 person, solely for their name.

I know they are a noob, and I know they are lieing when they say they've never heard of Atreyu and only names themselves after the little indian guy from NES, and i know they probably own at least one thursday shirt, but think about how many potential show goers/merchbuyers/show bookers never develope due to the metal elitist attitude chasing them off.


By all means, make fun of Atreyu and it's cool to give people a hard time if they fit a stereo type, especially one you think is fruity, but it's the kids who listen to bands like Atreyu that are the impressionable ones that will go to shows, and support bands.

I know some of you are saying 'we don't want those kids at our shows anyways'. But think about how many of them there are. If you can impress a mallcore homo with a handfull of decent metal bands, they will move on and denie that they ever listened to any gay bands (just like everyone else does).

By the way atreu77, we are all capable thinkers on this board and don't need a revolutionary that no one can identify. This is a good place to network and get involved in better metal than you already are cought up in, so don't ruin the opprtuniny by giving these guys reasons to make fun of you. I recomeng that you read before posting, and not try and jump on the revolutionary bandwagon without knowing anyone here.







Are my rants in this thread getting to gay?



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 19,2007 3:53pm
everyone's a fucking expert, but still more than half you fuckers havn't been around for more than 2 years and still all of you never go to shows and suck at promoting them. has the whole world gone crazy? am I the only one that gives a fuck about the rules?



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 3:55pm
i seriously have never heard of atreu. i mostly listen to the stuff my husband has, which is all good shit. and what is a thursday shirt?



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 3:56pm
and yes, i'm a noob, and i was just thinking out loud. no disrespect to anyone, just throwing ideas around was all



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 3:58pm
and had i known that this atreu band was not that good, i probably would've never used the name, because i seriously like the movie



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 19,2007 4:00pm
atreu77, now I'm convinced that you're a fake poster.


Josh, I challenge you to Mortal Kombat.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 4:02pm
i was not insulting you at all...i was making a very dry joke...i actually think it gave me cottonmouth



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Jan 19,2007 4:04pm
BornSoVile said:
everyone's a fucking expert, but still more than half you fuckers havn't been around for more than 2 years and still all of you never go to shows and suck at promoting them. has the whole world gone crazy? am I the only one that gives a fuck about the rules?


WOOO i'm in the special half that's over 2 years

i'd go to more shows if i wasn't poor and had a car...but i think i already said something about this earlier



toggletoggle post by timmy porphyria at Jan 19,2007 4:15pm

I not only rip on atreu77 for posting such retarded fuckery, but also agreeing with this statement . .

menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
metal is stupid


atreu77 said:
thank you, i think?


How the fuck can you even comment about building or keeping the boston metal scene alive if you agree that metal is supid retard?



toggletoggle post by atreu77 at Jan 19,2007 4:18pm
that was actually in response to eriktheviking. i should've been more clear. and no, i do not in any was think that metal is stupid



toggletoggle post by timmy porphyria at Jan 19,2007 4:26pm
Ok you're right. You're a self-admitted NOOB who digs metal.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 19,2007 4:29pm
thanks. we should try and start again. i think it was a bad case of mis-communication



toggletoggle post by timmy porphyria at Jan 19,2007 4:35pm
there was no mis-communication. You said something that pissed me off and I'm letting you know about it.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jan 19,2007 4:40pm
Pour molten lead over the city of Boston. Cant get more metal than that.



toggletoggle post by Archaeon at Jan 19,2007 5:01pm
atreu77 said:
i never made fun of a band named atreu. i have the name because i happen to like the never ending story


How can you like the never ending story if you don't know the ending?




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 19,2007 5:25pm
I guess it takes juan to know juan.



toggletoggle post by Samantha at Jan 19,2007 6:08pm
pam said:
Worcester is full of elitist douchebags (obviously not EVERYONE but most), shady clubs, and raft-floaters. I'll take Boston, thanks.


Sacreligion said:
there's nothign wrong with Worcester, it just scares outsiders...there's a lot of cool, good bands from here and the surrounding areas


I've never known anyone in Worcester to be an elitist, and I haven't run into anyone around here who has a crappy attitude. I think there are some pretty simple reasons why there is more happening around Worcester these days. Most of the people I know have the same attitude: Go to shows, have fun, meet new people. Most people are open to making new friends and getting more shows to happen. It's not any kind of scenester B.S. It's just simple logic. If you like going to local metal shows, and you want to continue going to local metal shows... keep going to shows, don't start unnecessary drama or be an asshole for no good reason, and if you can do something to make sure that the good shows keep happening (like booking a band or inviting a few friends to come to a show), do it. It's not rocket science.




toggletoggle post by horror_tang  at Jan 19,2007 6:32pm
Samantha said:
blah, blah, blah...


I don't remember inviting you into this thread. Hit the road you crazy dame.



toggletoggle post by horror_tang  at Jan 19,2007 6:33pm
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Additionally....



I guess I am glad Eddie cut his hair.



toggletoggle post by facefullofzircon  at Jan 19,2007 6:47pm edited Jan 19,2007 6:48pm
!



toggletoggle post by facefullofzircon  at Jan 19,2007 6:52pm
timmy said


If you want to bring metal back in boston get your fat ass off the computer and start a band that will blow every other band in the area out of the water. Then when those stoooooopid middle school kids start showing up to your shows, buy your merch and provide your gas money to get home, and put food in your stomach you can get your fat ass back on the computer and talk shit to the rejects who make fun of those very same kids. Bottom line is we need all the kids we can get because bands playing for bands sure as shit isn't getting the job done. So shut the fuck up and do something positive in the (minimal) metal scene around here. So what if the kids' parents are loaded? Their fault? no. So what if they're in middle school? Yeah kid grow up faster so you can be old and waste your life on return to the pit and bitch about the scene. They are the future for this scene, so lets degrede them because they're impressionable and young and watch MTV and drives dad's cadillac on the weekend, good plan. Because I love playing in front of TS, BMR, Goreality and Abnormality every show. Fuck anyone else seeing me play.
gay


AyyyeeeYUP!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 20,2007 4:55pm
rttp is full of elitist douchebags



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 20,2007 6:32pm edited Jan 20,2007 6:32pm
This thread got really gay, really fast.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 20,2007 6:39pm
Also, Kelly (atreu77) is an extremely nice person that goes to a lot of shows and doesn't deserve the shitstorm she's getting. I realize she's a n00b on here and must be beaten down and stripped of her self-worth immediately but goddamn. This thread is stupid, Boston is awesome, shut the hell up.



toggletoggle post by BlackMetalLady on Route 24 at Jan 20,2007 8:33pm
I figured talk is cheap. I am going to do something about it. Pam I will see you tonight at the show after I stop off at a friend's house in Assonet. We can either settle this like adults and have a Merlot together or be neanderthals and fight. I would rather just try and settle this and end the drama.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 20,2007 10:58pm
atreu77 said:
oops, that was my ann. post. all i was trying to say is that these kids(i.e middle school) listen to poop the media giants feed them. they have little to no idea about musician ship, since all the stuff they listen to is manufactured in a studio. ps- thanks, fuck!

sorry but i disagree...how do you know what "middle school" kids listen to? way to be negative though...is that how you were when you were in middle school?

whatever



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Jan 20,2007 11:55pm
horror_tang said:
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Additionally....



I guess I am glad Eddie cut his hair.


looks more like tyler when he had hair.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 21,2007 2:06am
Women belong in the kitchen.

END OF THREAD



toggletoggle post by Samantha at Jan 21,2007 5:20am
BlackMetalLady on Route 24 said:
I figured talk is cheap. I am going to do something about it. Pam I will see you tonight at the show after I stop off at a friend's house in Assonet. We can either settle this like adults and have a Merlot together or be neanderthals and fight. I would rather just try and settle this and end the drama.


The infamous BlackMetalLady did not attend the show tonight. (Fake poster?)



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 21,2007 12:23pm
Yeah it was Jeff.



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