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returntothepit >> discuss >> Religious tolerance by Anti-Racism on Oct 21,2006 1:54pm
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toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 21,2006 1:54pm
At an unusual series of leadership meetings in 44 cities this fall, more than 6,000 pastors are hearing dire forecasts from some of the biggest names in the conservative evangelical movement.

Their alarm has been stoked by a highly suspect claim that if current trends continue, only 4 percent of teenagers will be “Bible-believing Christians” as adults. That would be a sharp decline compared with 35 percent of the current generation of baby boomers, and before that, 65 percent of the World War II generation.

"I’m looking at the data,” said Ron Luce, who organized the meetings and founded Teen Mania, a 20-year-old youth ministry, “and we’ve become post-Christian America, like post-Christian Europe. We’ve been working as hard as we know how to work — everyone in youth ministry is working hard — but we’re losing."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/06/us/06evangelical.html



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 23,2006 8:26am
Evolution, much?



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 23,2006 10:35am
Anti-Racism said:
Their alarm has been stoked by a highly suspect claim that if current trends continue, only 4 percent of teenagers will be “Bible-believing Christians” as adults.


we can only hope



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 23,2006 11:12am
"Bible-BASHER Bible-BASHER!"



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 2:10pm
2000 years of forced rubbish finally coming to an end



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Oct 23,2006 2:13pm
it seems to me like christianity is strengthening its grip on young people. i hear more about young people being christian now than i ever heard growing up. maybe people look to that kind of faith during times of war and crisis. i would like us to be post-christian america, but i think the religion is still pretty strong in this country.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 23,2006 3:24pm
i think that with the uprising of education, not in the schooling sense but the personal sense, we are going to see a steady decline in religious beliefs. there is more and more popping up every day that exposes the lies and hypocrisy behind religion. people are realizing how dangerous it is, and after the generations before us die off, there wont be such a pressing need for it. people only believed in god because they were afraid of retribution, and no one to tell them otherwise. and really it was only retribution by those that worked in the religious hierarchy because they were the ones that executed all those labeled as heretics or heathens. maybe thats just fleeting hope though, and people are so desperate for a reason to existence that they will scoop up whatever fodder is thrown their way. yeah i'm more inclined to believe that one.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 23,2006 3:28pm
religion in theory preaches a good idea most of the time(in this case it's just essentially being a good person) but with terrible people in charge it's so blatantly obvious that it's a means of control and personal gain for those who stand to benefit from people shelling out money due to guilt problems crated by a fictional novel every sunday



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Oct 23,2006 3:31pm
yah all that and not to mention the hundreds...( thousands? ) of priests who have molested kids.. i'm sure parents have thought twice about sending em off to sunday school..



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 4:31pm
Nothing is more grim than reality

Nothing is more uncomfortable than the truth



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Oct 23,2006 4:35pm
Unfortunately, there's still alot of the Christian bullshit in the midwest. Luckily, living in New England we are sheltered from most of the real Bible pounding freaks. A friend of mine moved out ot Kansas City -- he says you don't have to go too far before people are praising the Lord in your face.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 4:41pm
largefreakatzero said:
Unfortunately, there's still alot of the Christian bullshit in the midwest. Luckily, living in New England we are sheltered from most of the real Bible pounding freaks. A friend of mine moved out ot Kansas City -- he says you don't have to go too far before people are praising the Lord in your face.


Going to waffle house is like going to an inbred church



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Oct 23,2006 4:42pm
it's not even the midwest, it's the bible belt to the south of us

damn red states



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 4:46pm
Most southern folk are the bloodlines of indentured servants

enslaved by the English upper caste

That is right folks, this country was built on the backs of white slaves



toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 23,2006 8:11pm
And most white people are still slaves.

Kill the Christian...
Kill the Christian...
DEAD




toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 9:24pm
Anti-Racism said:
And most white people are still slaves.

Kill the Christian...
Kill the Christian...
DEAD



Christianity was and is the mask that the european upper classes use to enslave the working classes

They needed a excuse for murder, rape, and theft

They know if they can keep the general populas stupid there will be no revolt





toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 9:28pm
CNV said:
Most southern folk are the bloodlines of indentured servants

enslaved by the English upper caste

That is right folks, this country was built on the backs of white slaves


If the white working class of america was smart enough to do some research they could demand reparations like blacks and jews so so much

Another tid bit of info, a vast majority of slaveships that took blacks from africa were owned by Jews

and the blacks were sold to them by other blacks




toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 23,2006 9:29pm
CNV said:
They know if they can keep the general populas stupid there will be no revolt


I think they're winning. How does the French Revolution fit into this?





toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 23,2006 9:31pm
http://www.nazi.org/library/race/

Good resources for all you racists and quasi-racists out there.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 9:40pm
Anti-Racism said:
http://www.nazi.org/library/race/

Good resources for all you racists and quasi-racists out there.



Another false hood

Nazism does not coincide with human nature

it does not recognize the individual

and what is really ironic is that they steal their ideas from Nietszche and Jung

They both were against it

It failed then, it would fail now

Like all the belief systems of the past

a failure and false



toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 23,2006 9:44pm edited Oct 23,2006 9:44pm
Doesn't recognize the individual? I thought it was all about picking the best, not the most popular.

So you're not a Nazi. What are you, Klan? American Renaissance?

http://www.amren.com/



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 9:49pm
Nothing is what I believe

Only false hoods require belief

If you have to believe in something it must not be real (Boyd Rice)

I am not one for joining silly human organizations

Let the slaves pledge their allegiance

Far too misanthropic for that

Dungeon Cult Legions



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 23,2006 10:00pm
Nietszche and Jung understand my disdain

There is a reason they were so reclusive

Humans

You cannot trust men and you cannot trust gods

This you can trust




toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Oct 23,2006 10:08pm



toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 23,2006 10:14pm
Sounds like a philosophy without hope, unless you're one of those nihilists. Death until the end! Yeah, and... well, I'd rather just fix the mess.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 24,2006 4:42am
Anti-Racism said:
Sounds like a philosophy without hope, unless you're one of those nihilists. Death until the end! Yeah, and... well, I'd rather just fix the mess.


Beyond repair



and hope is an abstract concept

Your already dead



Death is certain, Life is not



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 24,2006 5:10am
By the way, I scrolled through that Nazi site and it says in the frequently asked questions

We do believe in the individual soul (direct quote)

You should watch this movie



It is in German with English sub titles



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 24,2006 5:14am
Let me correct that

Says- We do NOT believe in the individual soul

typo



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 24,2006 10:35am
CNV said:
Nietszche and Jung understand my disdain

There is a reason they were so reclusive

Humans

You cannot trust men and you cannot trust gods

This you can trust



aw look a baby AK-47



toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 24,2006 8:19pm
CNV said:
Death is certain, Life is not


I don't need certainty. I live for the good things, and fight those who oppose them. What do you stand for?



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Oct 24,2006 8:26pm
I trust in oreo cheesecake.

No, seriously.




toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 24,2006 9:54pm
Anti-Racism said:
CNV said:
Death is certain, Life is not


I don't need certainty. I live for the good things, and fight those who oppose them. What do you stand for?


ENGLAAAANNNNDDDD



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 24,2006 9:58pm
I think Great Britain should enslave the whole world

There, now you know what I stand for

hehe



toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Oct 24,2006 10:02pm
CNV said:
I think Great Britain should enslave the whole world


Their record of colonization isn't bad. They left behind stable, growing and in some cases (USA) superior societies wherever they went.

;)



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 24,2006 10:11pm
Anti-Racism said:
CNV said:
I think Great Britain should enslave the whole world


Their record of colonization isn't bad. They left behind stable, growing and in some cases (USA) superior societies wherever they went.

;)


England did what germany wished it could

and it was done through white slave labor

Take a look at Australia

and the USA

Lots of times, a english person would be out at a pub and someone would be hired to kidnap the drunken peasents

The person hired would get them drunk, take them out in the alley and bop them over the head knocking them out

They would wake up with a splitting head ache on a slave ship bound for America

Now how is that for white unity?

I think you need to do a little studying on the subject of classism




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