so i went to the fucking FASSW/JFAC/Cattle Decap/Misery Index/Animosity show last night in Hamden (CT)

i re-arranged my guitar lessons so i could get out early and RACE to the elk's lodge to catch the SUPREMELY OVERHYPED Job For A Cowboy just to SEE what all the fucking fuss was about. I'd heard a song or two, still haven't seen the "Spongebob" thing, and thought I'd give it a fighting chance since - hey - I used to be in a pretty good death metal band when I was a CHILD, too.

AND GUESS WHAT???

they fucking SUCKED!!!
maybe that's a little harsh, but the hype cogs are WAAAAAY overgreased on this one. seriously, maybe if i hadn't went in there with the attitude of "impress me, children", i'd have a higher opinion of them - but NOPE.

maybe i'm just bitter that the DOUCHE-LEGIONS of high schoolers made a beeline for the parking lot once Misery Index & Cattle Decap went on, only to return for the similarly NOT-NEARLY-LIVING-UP-TO-THEIR-HYPE FASSW...

maybe FASSW puts on a killer fucking show with their oh-so-loveable brand of dude (douche) core. SORRY DUDES - YOU'RE NO RODNEY FUCKING DANGERFIELD.

y'know, when I was younger, I was REEEEAAAAAALLLLLYYYY into Dillinger, too. they had it all - crazy offtime shit, tighter than a nun while they went completely off... but these dudes need to spend a little more time on the music, less time on the "show" or whatever you want to call it. if i wasn't completely rushed typing this at work on stolen time, i'd be far more articulate. perhaps i'll continue my rant later, but seriously - FUCK MYSPACE AND THE ENTIRE CHILD-SCENE THAT ENABLES SUCH HORSEFUCKERY TO PROSPER OVER BANDS WITH REEEEEAAAAAL TALENT (ie Misery Index and Cattle Decap who fucking SLAYED these turds)

bottom line -

you know it's a sad thing when the best thing about their band is the ass-shorts for the underage bitches flocking to see them...

AND i probably missed a killer Law & Order sticking around for that tardfest

so yeah - FUCK ALL Y'ALL

*starts the 80's movie clap*

Saw them tuesday and I agree with you about both JFAC and FASSW.

But they are so br00tal and tech!

heh, j/k, you are preaching to the choir man. The only band I liked on that roster is Cattle Decapitation, and mainly the last two records.

wow that was quite a rant. i still dig JFAC, though that song on the spongebob thing is getting annoying. despite the brilliance of the segment.

JFAC had one good thing : accidentally stumbling into fame because of spongebob. When I first heard em I thought they weren't bad, but after a couple more songs I realized the error of my ways. Bowwwwing.

we really need a Homestar icon.

there was one song on their myspace page that i really enjoyed. i havent heard much, but from what i heard i liked.

pam said:

Exactly. It's impressive from a brutal and technical standpoint. These guys can play. A lot of these bands can. It's like a competition. And it was exciting for a moment or so. But from the standpoint of being music you'll remember 10 years down the stretch?

Nah, not for me.

my big problem with JFAC was the fact that they did not look like they even cared about what they were playing.

And I could see people not liking FASSW for being over the top and they do sound really noisy live. But then again, if you stand on the side of less spazzy guitarist you really hear the music...as W3 put it, new stuff sounds like Thursday mashed together with Goratory. Clearly not for everybody. But they did not make it big through myspace. they put their work in by touring almost non-stop for 3 years.

Job For A Queerboy.

this does not mean that it doesn't annoy me that the people that go to these shows and skip Misery Index and Cattle Decapitation don't piss me off. People need to get an education when they go to shows and they just hang out in the parking lot or heckle bands that don't look cool enough for their liking.

For me, the look is secondary. If some band had amazing music, I could get past that. If I honestly thought Atreyu had great tunes, I wouldn't care that they were emo vampires.

RichHorror said:

and that's the way to be. Specifically, I think these breakdown aficionados would love Misery Index especially if they gave them a listen instead of laughing at how metal they looked. (Since metal is ironic to scene kids)

Fashion is the big thing nowadays though...it sells, and I don't get it. Keep an eye out for The Acacia Strain to start wearing makeup...which I think most people here will love...another reason to hate that band.

I don't really listen to Misery Index, I bought one album but returned it. But then, I didn't really listen to Dying Fetus either.

quick somebody berate and threaten this kid for having an opinion on the internet!!

Who, GoatofCatalyst? Nah, I like his opinion.

xmikex said:

no shit right.

I only disagree with the FASSW part, and hell, I'm the one who is biased.

xmikex said:

shouldnt you be figuring out who dropdead is

who is berating him?

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

hahahahahahahaha

pam said:

YES WE DO!

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

wahh wahh. suck it up.

What the fuck is this supposed Sponge Bob thing?

i kinda figured i was preaching to the choir on this one.

i'm seriously thinking a guillotine needs to be installed over the entrances of all places hosting such shows.

you should have seen the fucking myspace-prom-core faction there! the little bitch that parked next to me looked like the retarded assbaby of robert smith and gay-satan from south park. and i'm not even homophobic... just illustrating a point

i've said before that when my band plays, i have denied merch / demo sales to certain kids. an evening such as last night makes me SO MUCH MORE militant about this. let's keep the trendy douche-hordes from the true shit. it is NOT for them. their (parents') money isn't green enough.

Trendy kids flock to whatever bands are hot shit at the moment. Then they stop listening to them 90 days later and move on to whatever else is cool. This will never change.

and don't even get me started on the mosh-novices trying out their sikk windmills for the second or third time. textbook definition of what i have come to know as the RETARD DOJO

well, at least there weren't any MOSH-HOGS representing

brian_dc said:

it's a joke on the fact that every time I say a band is overrated or someone could stand to do something differently some clown I don't even know errupts over it.

I once said on Lambgoat that the singer of Bane could use an ambush makeover. Within 10 minutes I had death threats from kids in at least 7 different states.

SteveOTB said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQI3BSVOKM

GoatOfCatalyst said:

OK your offically an idiot for denying merch and demo sales to people. If you're going to pick and choose you're crowd then you got some issues man. Music is music even if you don't like these people they like you enough to buy your shit. Don't give me the "ohh it's all about the music" shit because otherwise you wouldn't have any merch in the first place. God I dislike people like you. So narrow minded.

xmikex said:

Hahaha, is he still wearing the Killing Time hat? I haven't paid attention in a very long time.

hey steve, if i wanted to hear from an asshole, i'd fart.

your opinion means nothing.

get fucked.

why do people worry so much? if some schmuck likes your band, you should be happy. who cares if they dont dress the way you approve of. yeah i dont like the "mosh hogs" who flail around at our shows, and personally i dont like the "two stepping" to our songs, but i'm not going to be a dick and tell them they cant do it. bandwagon jumpers will forever plague music. there is no stopping it. this isnt early 90's Norway with the "no mosh, no core" shit. you dont have to associate with people like that, but hey if it gets your music noticed, whats the problem? people complain so much about their music not getting out, and no one goes to shows and blah blah blah, but then when people do, if they arent in uniform to the style they are seeing, they are immediately attacked and called posers. what if you were to go to an Allman Brothers show because you like the music, but you wore a Bathory shirt, and all the old guys started shit with you and made fun of you for not being "appropriately dressed"? you'd be pretty pissed, and wonder why. just be happy someone is listening to you. i dont care much for the emo-wear, but if some emoite likes the Sac, then more power to him/her. its basically useless to say what i just said though, things wont change.

thats not pointed at one person specifically, use of the word "you" is generalized.

Yeti said:

Ahh...what sweet memories.

I don't approve of women wearing clothes to IWEIPH gigs, and I won't allow it.

what was it, "no mosh, no core, no trends, no fun" or something close to that. it just seems a bit much. but at the same time, so does flailing around and breaking shit and ruining peoples chances to play at a venue.

Yeti said:

I always kind of looked at that as tongue-in-cheek.

Yep.

It may seem a bit much, but at the time it was a proactive stance against the dumbing down of extreme music.

edit: at least the fun part

to them though, it was deadly serious.

brian_dc said:

It wasn't tongue-in-cheek.

its hard to say things like what i just said though, because it bothers me as well. i love the depravity of extreme death and black metal. it sucks that corpsepaint and spikes became a household joke. the ideology it presented was great, it was something you could belong to, but it was something only a handful of people truly believed, the rest were, you guessed it, bandwagon jumpers. it sucks that the sanctity of something so pure was defiled by idiots who dont understand it, but think its "cool".

at the same time, purists need something like that in order to be pissed off genuinely. Ultimately the trends will die and whatever is left behind will be much closer to the purist approach.

It was a fascinating and admirable aesthetic. The antithesis of what we are surrounded with today.

RichHorror said:





you dont have anything to worry about. women do not attend IWEIPH gigs.

wtf!

RichHappy said:

Because a knife wound to the breast often offends.

I can empathize with and appreciate what Yeti is saying, but understand my point...

this kid:


will NEVER own a single fucking thing bearing the Catalyst name

nor will any cunt in any way resembling him.

just you wait until the tales and photographic evidence of this summer's impending CT DOUCHE-PRUNING make its way to this board...

all i gotta say is...

battery-operated



THINK I WON'T???

GoatOfCatalyst said:

Damn right, CAPHARNAUM was kick ass shit.

Why couldn't the world just end in 2000 like it was supposed to?

I remember Capharnaum, Jason recorded my old band once, a long time ago. Oh right, they are still around.

yet another groundbreaking thread courtesy of RTTP

GoatOfCatalyst said:


point taken.

anonymous said:

yet another insightful, anonymous critique.

from noone.

FASSW are solid dudes, and they put TONS of effort and thought into their music; I know so from having spent like 2 hours with them yesterday talking about it.

I was annoyed by the mallcore bullshit lastnight, but whatever, at least they came out and got exposed to some good bands. FASSW is about energy and CAttle decapitation is about technical brutality; to compare the live shows of the two is like comparing apples and oranges. They are both amazing at what they do.

chillax yo.

This shit goes in cycles. It's hair metal all over again. But I like Job for a cowboy and Misery index.

Bitches WOULD HAVE BEEN exposed to good bands if they'd bothered to stick around inside to watch Misery Index and Cattle Decapitation.

But those kids don't care about the music. It's just a scene. They just want to be seen at the show by their cool friends. I'm 28 when I was in highschool everyone I knew went to shows. But now I'm really the only one who does.

kids are kids and follow whats cool, this has been happening forever.
you guys were all like that at one point im sure.
one day those same nerdy little mosh kids will look down at new nerdy little mosh kids and complain about how overrated and stupid whatever big new trendy band is playing now. "METALCORE JUST ISNT WHAT IT USED TO BE, WE USED TO BE LIKE BROTHERS, I WOULD MOSH AND HIT PEOPLE AND THEN WE WOULD HIGH FIVE AND HUG"
its not even worth complaining about, its cyclical.
if corpse paint and lamenting alone in the frozen and forlorn woods is your thing, dont worry if other people are doing it too, stick to it.
i was at this show and i think the following bands sucked: fassw, animosity (they were tight but i just cant get into it), jfac, misery index (sorry they are no assuck).

my point is: if you are going to drink at club lido, bring your own alcohol and drink it in the car before the show, 6 dollars for a dixey cup of vodka and coke is just not worth it.

Going to a show to be scene or seen, which ever way you wanna put it is fucking lame

brian_dc said:


I fail to see the goratory connection, but then again, i really havent heard enough of them to take a real stance on the issue.

I was actually quoting Sean Shrapnel

it's actually kind of innaccurate. I've heard the new stuff on record now. There is definitely a sludgy death metal influence, nothing to the technicality of Goratory though.

Sean, u think they sound like us?

you people are retarded, its not like i said goratory and thursday are on stage or a track at the same time but yes some of the riffs and time changes remind me of goratory and a lot of softer shit reminds of me thursday, but that was my first impression seeing how i dont listen to this band. take it from here however you want.

im not takin anything anywhere, i was just asking

naw just going over this whole thread, it wasnt an outright retarded statement towards the dood or mr. williams. but please at least take the statement for a walk, perhaps some ice cream, maybe just a stroll thru the park. i know the dood and the dood loves those things. ah fuck it dood lets go bowling.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

hahahhahah... Also dood, let's not forget... let's NOT forget dood - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either dood.

GoatOfCatalyst said:

dont get me wrong, i am not justifying a boner like that. i see exactly where you are coming from. my point was more about how much of a waste of emotion it is to be bothered by it. thats one major thing that i have learned since frequenting this site on a regular basis, is not to care about much. believe me it will piss me off if i see some emo-homo wearing a Sac shirt, or some kid with colored hair and those chain/strap hot topic pants, but i'm not going to waste my time with it. i wish the integrity of old school still applied to today, i mean there are plenty that keep the fire burning, but many whos fakery and douchebagery seem to extinguish it, and that number is ever growing exponentially.

Infant_Skin_Suitcase said:

what are you the fucking park range now.

I am a former park ranger and I have no idea what anyone is talking about here.

I don't believe I've met you yet, Mr. Yeti, but when I do - you and I are having a little drink together... and I don't even drink anymore.

As for the "waste of emotion" / not caring thing...

Dude, I've got five ferrets. I'm a WICKED nihilist.

I agree.

GoatOfCatalyst said:

Rodney Dangerfield fucking ruled! A true great American loss. I sure hope that they ended up freezing his sperm so that he could be cloned in the future. Lets see who can name what movie this came from:

"Kill the fuckin' Indian! What, am I watching two fags fuck?"

hung_to_bleed said:

hail to the king

hung_to_bleed said:




Natural Born Killers

brian_dc said:

THe Big Lebowski dood

GoatOfCatalyst said:

oh him? he's a nihilist. well i am the front man for Sacreligion, and i dont know if we've met either, but yes i will partake in a drink, a drink to old school and its ever present, yet somewhat forsaken ways.

thats a horrible picture of Rodney Dangerfield. poor guy.

OH THE IRONY!!!!!!!

im late to this party but...who the eff are FASSW?

From A Second Story Window

i have no idea, but this thread rules.

oh yeah, them.

I enjoy(ed) them.

bahahahaha oh you dumb fuck. i hate re-reading shit from years ago.

out of the -core scene they were on the better side of suck.

Tee hee

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA