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returntothepit >> discuss >> Rule of the stupid by the rich by infoterror on Apr 17,2006 5:08pm
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toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Apr 17,2006 5:08pm
We conspire against ourselves in all sorts of ways, most of which are so familiar that they seem almost like common sense. The root problem is that all of our decisions go into a rational machinery, a social calculus of "benefit." Thus, the infamous "cost-benefit analysis." So we think, "If I clear-cut this forest I can sell the timber and plant soybeans for export to China, a very profitable move. But if I cut down the forest we may not have air to breathe or a stable climate in the future. Animals will be deprived of habitat. Species may go extinct. Oh, fuck it, why should my forest be responsible for the future when it can be profitable now?"

This is not the exclusive logic of corporate capitalists, although it was certainly the logic of factory trawlers when they stripped the Atlantic of cod from Nova Scotia to the Chesapeake, a grave crime against the cod (but who the hell ever thinks about what the ugly-mug cod need?), humanity, and the future. This is also the logic of Brazil's left-wing government led by Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Brazil's deforestation of the Amazon increased by 40 percent last year alone. To be sure, President da Silva's rationale involved the importance of a cash crop to feed the urban poor. "The Amazon is not untouchable," da Silva told The New York Times. This, obviously, places the burden of feeding the poor squarely on the backs of parrots and leopards. Meanwhile, Brazilian agribusiness kings like Blairo Maggi make conflict of interest a virtual requirement for governance. Not only is Maggi owner of one of the largest soybean production and export companies in Brazil, he is also the governor of the state of Mato Grosso ("dense jungle"). Thanks to the "prosperity" he brings, the Amazon will soon be just another fantastical postmodern location, so familiar to North Americans, where the names of places no longer have any relationship to what's actually in them. Mato Grosso will refer to a place that is no more than a factory for exchange value in a soybean monoculture, just as Illinois is a "prairie state" with 1/10 of 1 percent of its original prairie remaining. Of course, once the original plant/animal/human inhabitants are gone, we wax sentimental. The things we slaughter become our heritage. We wear feathers in our hair and go to summer powwows.


Sotoligarchy by Curtis White



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Apr 17,2006 5:13pm
shutup, faggot



toggletoggle post by SACAPAPADOO   at Apr 17,2006 5:23pm
technology fucks us all man fuck this shit!! it pisses me off, think about it man, when was the last time a great painting was made or great music was concieved? (i.e any jimi hendrix's, john lennons etc..) we need a revolution to get these fucking old retarded assbags outta power. all there doing is spending all the money inventing useless shit so we grow more and more lazy every fucking day. we need some younger assholes in power, not these old faggots who follow the rules that were made by even older dead fucks from the 1800's, what the fuck dont they know that time has changed and the lifestyles and cultures are completly differant. i dont know man,i still say fuck it and i may be hypacritical or even contradicting to my own beliefs but ya know what atleast i know how to be happy and so the rest of the U.S. Smoke weed and make music,there has to be a sound thatll make people listen and im going to find it....



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Apr 17,2006 5:48pm



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 17,2006 5:55pm
From the title of this thread, I expected a summary of the Republican platform.




toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 17,2006 5:58pm
In all seriousness though, lots of good points made in the original post. Each generation of humanity lives as if it's the last; with that attitude, it's only a matter of time before we're right.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Apr 17,2006 6:26pm edited Apr 17,2006 6:27pm
Come on, it's not like resources are limited, or that we're overpopulated and consuming things like there's no tomorrow. Maybe if we were wiping out species and destroying whole ecosystems...oh wait...



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Apr 17,2006 6:44pm
psssshhhhhh, only muslims, liberals, homosexuals, and catholics need to worry about silly worldly things like natural resources. Jesus is coming to pick up the rest of us long before any of that shit becomes a problem. Obviously you guys havent read your bible lately...



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 17,2006 6:44pm
I didn't write that rule.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Apr 17,2006 9:23pm
ShadowSD said:
From the title of this thread, I expected a summary of the Republican platform.


Wish there were some good guys. Republicans obviously suck, but what do the democrats do, besides civil rights? They haven't done a meaningful thing for the environment and they will do NOTHING about overpopulation, since they love brown people (for the most part, so do I, but we need to cut back on people in general and white people have already done so). The greens? Shit, they're pansies. The Nazis? I can't think of a neo-Nazi group with brains enough to say more than "Kick out the Jews and non-Whites" -- well, I guess I can think of one but they're about as popular as Leni Riefenstahl at a Bar Mitzvah. The radical ecoterrorists? Much as I love ELF, these guys don't have a plan beyond "Kick out the corporations" either. WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I SUGGEST DESTROYING MODERN SOCIETY.

And... I think people are ready.

Responses to this thread are hearteningly thoughtful. You all make my day sometimes ( * gets all teary-eyed, shoots self * ).





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