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returntothepit >> discuss >> 4/6 - Beantown Beatdown Fest: Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza, Invocation of Nehek, Emmure, Last Chance To Reason & more. by craz on Mar 28,2006 1:21pm
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toggletoggle post by craz   at Mar 28,2006 1:22pm


Beantown Beatdown Fest
April, 6 2006 at the Melrose Masonic Hall/Temple
329 Main Street, Melrose, MA 02176
Cost: $8.00
All Ages
Doors @ 5:30PM

Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, Emmure, If I Die, Invocation Of Nehek, Prior To Burial, My Bitter End, Pillar of Autumn, Year Of Desolation, & Last Chance To Reason.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Mar 28,2006 1:22pm
theres no reason why there should be that many bands on this



toggletoggle post by CraigForACurse  at Mar 28,2006 1:23pm
nice to see LCTR got on this. good work guys.



toggletoggle post by cav at Mar 28,2006 3:08pm
this show is gonna be freakin sweet!



toggletoggle post by noturalfates at Mar 28,2006 6:10pm
3 good bands, countless number of bad bands..



toggletoggle post by tbone_r nli at Mar 28,2006 6:44pm
i just want to see tony danza, too many other bands



toggletoggle post by EAB Booking at Mar 28,2006 7:08pm
dudes from LCTR are cool.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Mar 28,2006 8:40pm
that is an awesome show, lctr is killer, and great guys



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 30,2006 9:21am
no if i die though...



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Mar 30,2006 9:23am
beantown? what are you guys from the midwest?



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Mar 30,2006 9:28am
this sounds more like an overbooked show than a fest. Also, last time I checked Melrose wasn't Boston. How about "Melrose Mayhem Fest?"



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 30,2006 9:40am
I like the ideas of over booked shows when every band has a half hour set because seriously $8.00 for for 9 bands adds up to 88 cents a band where you can go to Drifters in Nashua, NH and see 3 bands for $10.00; you get more for your money.



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Mar 30,2006 9:42am
i agree that you get more for your money, but 4 bands a show is about as much as I can handle, 5 tops.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 30,2006 9:44am
Anthony said:
i agree that you get more for your money, but 4 bands a show is about as much as I can handle, 5 tops.


Yeah true. It's on a school night too; I'd be more likely to understand if it was on the weekend.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 30,2006 9:47am
I think the melrose shows are always over booked.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Mar 30,2006 9:49am
SteveOTB said:
I like the ideas of over booked shows when every band has a half hour set because seriously $8.00 for for 9 bands adds up to 88 cents a band where you can go to Drifters in Nashua, NH and see 3 bands for $10.00; you get more for your money.


thats dumb

im paying 8 bucks to see tony danza

i dont care about any of those local bands other than last chance to reason



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 30,2006 9:51am
Yeah Tony Danza is worth the $8.00 alone so once again you'll get more for your money. Maybe I'll talk to Chris about an upcoming tenative Killwhitneydead show to see if only 4-5 bands can play because personally I want Killwhitneydead to have a fucking hour set so I can hear every single one of their songs live.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Mar 30,2006 10:03am
I dont want more for my money.

I want to see tony danza, thats why im going...its stupid for you to overbook shows.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 30,2006 10:20am edited Mar 30,2006 10:20am
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
I dont want more for my money.

I want to see tony danza, thats why im going...its stupid for you to overbook shows.


I didn't book the show. I just make the flyers and help promote.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Mar 30,2006 10:22am
its cool

im kind of coming off as a jerk, but there are seriously to many bands on this..and its not your fault but it just bothers me



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 30,2006 10:30am
It's cool, I do see your point though because booking 9 bands on a show on a week night is pretty crazy. Do the math, 30 minutes per band, 10 minute setup/breakdowns, the shows never starting on time, your talking roughly a 7 and a half hour show so my guess is each band will probably have 20 minutes which will make it a 4-5 hour show.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh nli at Mar 30,2006 11:05am
you guys should ask some of the bands to get off of this show, especially because LCTR and tony danza are on tour



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 30,2006 11:16am
Eh it's too late, all the bands we're promised so maybe I'll talk to Chris (Sin City Bookings & Promotions) to see if he can start putting on shows with like 4-5 bands instead of 7-9.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh at the library at Apr 5,2006 3:40pm
bump,

ill be there without the rabbit suit though.

aaron are you going to this?



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Apr 5,2006 6:46pm
ill be there quite late. gots to support tha ION.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Apr 5,2006 6:48pm
blue!



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 6,2006 9:00am
bump Tonight!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 9:20am
yep, I'll be there.



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:03am
why does everyone care that there are a lot of bands on the bill??



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:04am
SteveOTB said:
It's cool, I do see your point though because booking 9 bands on a show on a week night is pretty crazy. Do the math, 30 minutes per band, 10 minute setup/breakdowns, the shows never starting on time, your talking roughly a 7 and a half hour show so my guess is each band will probably have 20 minutes which will make it a 4-5 hour show.


tony danza is playing longer than 20 mins right ?!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 10:18am
mostlikely not...



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:28am
really! i dont understand why...a headlining band should at least get 30 mins....i have a show that i booked with 8 bands running from 6-11:30, each band getting 25-30 sets plus 10-15 setup...i dont understand why this cant happen at this show?!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 10:29am
talk to the kid putting it on not me.
he's got the best intentions I assure you, but I wish he would be a slight be more of a dick to the bands to get them on/off faster.



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:33am
ugh dont tell me its gonna be one of these shows where the first band shows up an hour late....anther takes 30 mins to set up some crappy keyboard or triggers...and the rest of the bands play for 15 minutes. ie what happened in seekonk when we played.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Apr 6,2006 10:34am
i hate when bands break down gear on stage. cav what time are you guys headed out for this?



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:36am
well lctr is goin on around 630 and its an hour and a half drive so around 430-5 i guess. still gotta talk to jake and see when hes getting out of work.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Apr 6,2006 10:38am
cav said:
ugh dont tell me its gonna be one of these shows where the first band shows up an hour late....anther takes 30 mins to set up some crappy keyboard or triggers...and the rest of the bands play for 15 minutes. ie what happened in seekonk when we played.


dood that show ruled so much mosh



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:39am
yeeeeaaa riiiight



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Apr 6,2006 10:41am
it's an hour and a half? where is it near, saugus / peabody?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 10:45am
that's sort of what the other shows I've been there have been like. go there and light a fire under their asses.

is it really going until 11:30? they never go that late there in my experience. it's usually over by 9 or 10.



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 6,2006 10:45am
ah, theres the problem



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 6,2006 11:31am
Lets see; 9 bands with half hour sets each would make it last till 9:30 that's not including setup and break down which should be 15 minutes total. 7.5 minutes may be enough to set up then another 7.5 to break down so all in all my estimate is that this show could last till 11:30 but that's just a rough guess. Make each band have 20 and have Tony Danza and ION have 30 minute sets, 15 minute setup/break down for each band and this thing could end at 10:40.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 6,2006 11:40am
OK just found out that My Bitter End is no longer playing so now this thing could end at either 10:10 or 11:00.



toggletoggle post by cavnli at Apr 6,2006 3:04pm
id love to see a full 30 mins of tony danza...im driving an hour and a half...make me happy mother fucker...and put my band on your next show! now! do it...hows that for a fire under asses...i dont say these things in person im too shy. haha.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 6,2006 3:37pm
cavnli said:
id love to see a full 30 mins of tony danza...im driving an hour and a half...make me happy mother fucker...and put my band on your next show! now! do it...hows that for a fire under asses...i dont say these things in person im too shy. haha.


What band are you in Cav? If you want to be on one of Sin City Bookings and Promotions' shows go to his myspace at http://www.myspace.com/sincitybookings I think the shows he puts on are pretty good. A while back he booked With Dead Hands Rising in which we were supposed to play but of course our guitarist got lost coming to the show so we had to cancel at the last minute.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 3:43pm
I remember that show.
and tomorrow, I'm going to remember this show too.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 6,2006 3:44pm edited Apr 6,2006 3:44pm
the_reverend said:
I remember that show.
and tomorrow, I'm going to remember this show too.


Yeah wish I could've stayed for it too but I had to find my guitarist who was lost like 2 towns over (15 minute drive) go figure.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 5:07pm
guess I'm heading off to this in a bit.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 7:56pm
well, it started late, like I said. this time, they were missing a cable to hook up the mic. they needed some chord that screws into the pa. all the bands have short sets.

pillars of autumn: in the beginning of their set, the PA was fucked up. It was so over blown. they finally figured that out I think. I saw this band last time I was down here, but they were called what words fail or something like that. Decent hardcore, some more melodic guitars at the end. The singer kept calling people assholes cause there wasn't a constant mosh on. They had demos, but since they just renamed the band and the CD said the ne band, I'm going to guess it's the demo for the old band.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 9:28pm
last chance to reason: guys from maine. Eat lobstah. with in 2 seconds of the start of their set, the PA was on the ground due to that screwed in chord. That was basically what was going down all during their set. The guitarists are all over the place. at the end of their set, one of the guitar players put down his guitar and started moshing it up, but the guitar was sorely missed in the last breakdown.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 9:30pm
prior to burial: they seemed to set up wicked quickly. I guess this is two of the guys from this band's last show was this one (the singer and a guitar player). At this point, I started to get way more comfortable with my new camera and the lens so the pictures get a little better from them forward. this was only my second time catching these guy unfortuantely. Excellent super heavey hardcore with zao/bdm influences. I'm sure for a lot of people, this would be a sad day seeing PTB for the last time. In the end, there was a firesale and the singer just gave away tshirts. I got one too.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 6,2006 9:38pm
emure: last time I saw them, I thought they sounded a lot like the acacia strain. It's more the later songs in their set. The first ones do have a lot of breakdowns, but they sound a lot different than TAS. At some point during their set, the entire PA speaker on one side came crashing down. aot of people knew the words to some of their songs. That made more than enough singing along possible..



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Apr 6,2006 11:11pm
nevermind, too broke to go.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh@home at Apr 6,2006 11:35pm
this show was fun.

minus a few things,

-the lack of door staff..meaning i paid and some other assholes didnt
-tony danza's set getting cut short
-the dudes who booked the show...this show was overbooked and it seems like mostly all the bands were friends..thats pretty lame.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 7,2006 12:16am
just got in.
working on pictures.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh@home at Apr 7,2006 12:34am
hey rev,

this is what i was talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMZMdJaMIMo&search=tony%20danza



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 7,2006 12:35am
this was the best, most poorly run show ive ever seen...who even takes a chance of having tony danzas set cut short?!!...im sad i saw the setlist, it was like 8-10 songs, i think they did 5 or 6...totally lame! but i figured it was gonna happen. they were amazing anyways...the sound was fair, they played the most memorable songs from their cd as well as a couple new ones. word on the street is they may be getting signed to blackmarket...guy from the red chord was at this show. i also saw the old old drummer from unearth there.

nice to see ION back in action...the new singer isnt as funny as the last but his vocals are pretty good from what i could hear out of that crappy PA. kids really rocked out for them.

the boys in LCTR put in a good show...i kept laughing my ass off at AJ walkin up to kids who werent paying attention and just rockin out in their face...if you need lessons on how to use your wireless system, check out LCTR!

emmure = acacia strain

year of desolation was probably the best straight up metal band ive seen in a long time!

and i dont remember who else played, the first band was ok although their bassist was like 12.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 7,2006 12:38am
pictures in a second.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh@home at Apr 7,2006 12:38am
cav said:
this was the best, most poorly run show ive ever seen...who even takes a chance of having tony danzas set cut short?!!...im sad i saw the setlist, it was like 8-10 songs, i think they did 5 or 6...totally lame! but i figured it was gonna happen. they were amazing anyways...the sound was fair, they played the most memorable songs from their cd as well as a couple new ones. word on the street is they may be getting signed to blackmarket...guy from the red chord was at this show. i also saw the old old drummer from unearth there.

nice to see ION back in action...the new singer isnt as funny as the last but his vocals are pretty good from what i could hear out of that crappy PA. kids really rocked out for them.

the boys in LCTR put in a good show...i kept laughing my ass off at AJ walkin up to kids who werent paying attention and just rockin out in their face...if you need lessons on how to use your wireless system, check out LCTR!

emmure = acacia strain

year of desolation was probably the best straight up metal band ive seen in a long time!

and i dont remember who else played, the first band was ok although their bassist was like 12.


I talked to the guitarist and he said they were being looked at by metal blade

meaning they will probably get signed on black market activties and get distroed by metal blade



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh@home at Apr 7,2006 1:05am
good job on the pictures rev.

these came out awesome



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 7,2006 8:29am
I thought the show was awesome, the fucked up thing was some kid decided to bitch out the owner of the hall thus the reason why TDTDE was cut off half way into their set. Some people just have no respect these days and once again something goes bad at a hall show and now there may not be anymore shows at the Melrose Masonic Temple. The PA system sucked ass; I wanted to go up to the kid doing the mixing and see if I could take over but I said screw it, that's not my job. And to the kid who said "...this show was overbooked and it seems like mostly all the bands were friends..thats pretty lame." what's wrong with bands having friends? I'm friends with alot of them actually; just because you're in a band doesn't mean you have to give EVERYTHING up. Plus my boys from Emmure put us in their "Thank you's" on their new EP which was really nice of them; good guys. Year of Desolation by the way was amazing and came as a huge surprise to me on the show; they made the best of their set seeing how they were more "metal" than any of the bands there but after a while people definately came around. By the way did I mention that TDTDE was pretty much perfect; the vocalist was obviously a very loud screamer because I could actually hear him over most of the other bands. TDTDE, Emmure, Year of Desolation, were my favorites of the night.



toggletoggle post by ChrisMo at Apr 7,2006 8:58am
lots of little girls at this thing too



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 7,2006 9:22am
your soooo gay steve, stop being sooo gay no business man i am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 7,2006 9:42am
year of desolusion: so... They just signed with prosthetic records. They were awesome. Pure metal noodling on the guitar. The singer kept mentioning horns, head banging, and circle-pitting and plenty of kids were up front for them complying. the singer was all meedly meedly on his microphone too. I think this is was a modern day aggression would sound like.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 7,2006 9:50am
invocation of nehek: WTF! Not one did they get a new singer and new drummer, but some how robb gained the ability to jump. That was the weirdest part. Don't get me wrong, the old singer,rob , was awesome. I mean he was there writing the lyrics and putting them to the songs, but the new singer, lou, is problem one of my top vocalists in the local scene. Such a wide "black market activities" sounding voice. it's always awesome to see these guys. I used to see them all the time, but they are too busy on their farmers daughters tours now. I kid, they were ouut of commison for a while without a drummer.it's awesome that they are doing so well and when they are on atlantic records, I will sell the note robb sent me with their first demo on ebay.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 7,2006 9:55am
anonymous said:
your soooo gay steve, stop being sooo gay no business man i am


I know who you are; I'm pretty sure I'll see you tonight if not this weekend...ass.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 7,2006 10:16am
doodz gonna make out!



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 7,2006 11:32am
did anyone else think that more people were gonna show up for this?



toggletoggle post by cav at Apr 7,2006 11:34am
the reason i say this is because it seems to be a weird situation when a band like tony danza probably wants a $200-300 guarantee but then they dont draw as much as expected. just wondering if promoters always get fucked paying bands out of there pocket. i just started booking shows and i want to get headliners but not if i have to pay them 100-200 bucks out of my pocket ya know.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 7,2006 12:45pm edited Apr 7,2006 12:56pm
cav said:
the reason i say this is because it seems to be a weird situation when a band like tony danza probably wants a $200-300 guarantee but then they dont draw as much as expected. just wondering if promoters always get fucked paying bands out of there pocket. i just started booking shows and i want to get headliners but not if i have to pay them 100-200 bucks out of my pocket ya know.


Those kind of headliners want that kind of money to pay for all their expenses such as food, gas, etc. The problem is that if that headliner doesn't atleast draw 200-300 worth then they shouldn't get that much. But it's also up to the promoter to promote the show because you could have the biggest band in the world but if it's not promoted correctly then no one will show so it's sort of 50/50, the band has to be worth that kind of money and the promoter needs to promote it enough to make that money. Poor Chris was upset that most of the bands he couldn't pay for gas money because Tony Danza & ION asked for so much I believe. Then there were the out of state bands asking for money as well. Personally I don't think the kid profited off it at all, all the money basically had to go to headliners and renting the room. Another thing to consider is that it was a week day and week days are always hard to draw. For a week day show I thought the draw was pretty good. If this was on the weekend I'm sure it'd be packed.

Basically if a band is making $300.00 that's $10.00 a minute for a 30 minute set; divide that by 5 and each band member is making 2 dollars a minute which basically means each member is making 60 every half hour. That's not even including what they're making in merch sales. These bands could make anywhere from 300-400 for one night. That's definately good money in my book.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 7,2006 1:00pm edited Apr 7,2006 1:00pm
Sorry I enjoy doing math for some reason. If you'd like to go in depth a little more if a band tours 30 days making 300 a show and an estimated 50 dollars off merch sales a night they could pull in $10,500.00 for those 30 days; divide that by each member and each member could make $2,100.00 a month.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Apr 7,2006 2:50pm
cav said:
the reason i say this is because it seems to be a weird situation when a band like tony danza probably wants a $200-300 guarantee but then they dont draw as much as expected. just wondering if promoters always get fucked paying bands out of there pocket. i just started booking shows and i want to get headliners but not if i have to pay them 100-200 bucks out of my pocket ya know.


im sure they didnt draw as much as expected because the show was well over booked..with the exception of last chance to reason, ION, and Tony Danza every other band sounded EXACTLY the same, with the same mosh parts. a lot of the kids there were dicks too, because they only dance to their friend's bands and no one else.

You guys lost money because people walked right in without even paying.




toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Apr 7,2006 3:04pm
I mean if you wanted it to be a fest some diversity would of been nice.



toggletoggle post by 1111111 at Apr 7,2006 3:22pm
"Those kind of headliners want that kind of money to pay for all their expenses such as food, gas, etc. The problem is that if that headliner doesn't atleast draw 200-300 worth then they shouldn't get that much."

200-300 dollars worth is exactly 20-30 kids in the door with an average door cost at 10 dollars...even so, lets say the band draws 15 kids, so youre saying that they dont deserve 200 bucks? That is NOT alot of money. The promoter took them on, he should live up to whatever the deal is.







"Sorry I enjoy doing math for some reason. If you'd like to go in depth a little more if a band tours 30 days making 300 a show and an estimated 50 dollars off merch sales a night they could pull in $10,500.00 for those 30 days; divide that by each member and each member could make $2,100.00 a month. "

Lets say best case scenario, that much money is made....cut half of it for gas/travel expenses....also factoring in the probably 2 oil changes you will have to get while on the road for 30 days, and the fact that because of murphys law, no touring ever goes smoothly, expect some sort of van problems or a flat tire.

if you make that much money on merch, youll probably take home a quarter of it or less, unless you, and not your label put up the 3000 it would cost to produce 100 hoodies.

on top of this, that little thing called "your label recouping what theyve spent on you." Those cds you sell didnt come out of nowhere, so expect half or more of that to go right back to the record label

So with whatever you have left, you might want to spend 2 out of 7 days a week at a hotel to be able to shower, and then the ocassional value meal at McDonalds.

In the end you take no money home and if there is 5 bucks left, it goes back in the bands kitty.


this wasnt an insulting post, its just reality...no band will ever make that money unless you are on quite a larger leve.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 7,2006 8:51pm
tony danza tap dance extravaganza: I've never heard this band before and was hoping for some actual tapdancing to be going on. Unfortunately, beside so "dancing" and moshing, the foot work was kept at a minimal. when I was hoping for they sounded a lot like from a second story window when they have the first singer.



toggletoggle post by hjeh at Apr 7,2006 9:32pm
this fest should've not had the titled "beatdown fest" theres not even ONE beatdown band on it. awful. should've been metalcore fest.



toggletoggle post by NateWOOS at Apr 8,2006 10:38am
The comments about bands making a ton of money on tour is very amusing. obviously the person who posted it has never done a tour. bands don't make shit, unless you're Killswitch Engage. cha-ching!



toggletoggle post by Steve Ion at Apr 8,2006 12:59pm
SteveOTB said:
Basically if a band is making $300.00 that's $10.00 a minute for a 30 minute set; divide that by 5 and each band member is making 2 dollars a minute which basically means each member is making 60 every half hour. That's not even including what they're making in merch sales. These bands could make anywhere from 300-400 for one night. That's definately good money in my book.


Yeah, these bands are just rolling in the dough bro.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 8,2006 1:01pm
I wish I were in a band so I could get a grass skirt made of fiddy dollah billz.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Apr 8,2006 1:04pm
beatdown bands are stupid



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Apr 8,2006 1:08pm
yeah man...you've gotta be on some crack if you think bands are making money off touring.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Apr 8,2006 1:54pm
$300-400 in one night, great, then gas, insurance, rent for their apartments at home, because they arent working, food, repairs for the van, equipment...



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Apr 8,2006 3:42pm
Fine I recant my statement on saying that bands touring are making "decent" money. I don't know what it's like to be on tour but I was just doing mathematics and averaging things out in best case scenarios. Sorry if I offended anyone.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Apr 8,2006 3:54pm
sorry, didn't mean to attack you there...but I know that the majority of the time, this level of a touring band rarely does much better than break even...not offended, just got a little fiesty in giving my two cents



toggletoggle post by ha at Apr 8,2006 7:32pm
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
beatdown bands are stupid


hey asshole, if it weren't for certain bands (pretty much EVERY NYHC band) you wouldn't have many bands that evolved from influences off of beatdown bands perfect example..... dehumanized even though they are death metal they're recognized as a beatdown band i mean in NYC all the ids and bdc kids are at their shows beating the shit outta fags like you. so if someones gonna have a fest called "beantown beatdown fest" i expect the following bands..... Everybody gets hurt, Dehumanized, Irate, Billyclub sandwich, Back Of Tha Neck, Cease 2 Exist (REUNION), Shattered Realm, Betrayed By All, In Our Blood, Six Of Fire (REUNION) and maybe a Within One Intent reunion as well . now thats a beantown beatdown fest.



toggletoggle post by paradigmdream  at Apr 12,2006 10:32am
ha said:
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
beatdown bands are stupid


hey asshole, if it weren't for certain bands (pretty much EVERY NYHC band) you wouldn't have many bands that evolved from influences off of beatdown bands perfect example..... dehumanized even though they are death metal they're recognized as a beatdown band i mean in NYC all the ids and bdc kids are at their shows beating the shit outta fags like you. so if someones gonna have a fest called "beantown beatdown fest" i expect the following bands..... Everybody gets hurt, Dehumanized, Irate, Billyclub sandwich, Back Of Tha Neck, Cease 2 Exist (REUNION), Shattered Realm, Betrayed By All, In Our Blood, Six Of Fire (REUNION) and maybe a Within One Intent reunion as well . now thats a beantown beatdown fest.

thank you for the good laugh. i needed that



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Apr 12,2006 11:20am
ha said:
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
beatdown bands are stupid


hey asshole, if it weren't for certain bands (pretty much EVERY NYHC band) you wouldn't have many bands that evolved from influences off of beatdown bands perfect example..... dehumanized even though they are death metal they're recognized as a beatdown band i mean in NYC all the ids and bdc kids are at their shows beating the shit outta fags like you. so if someones gonna have a fest called "beantown beatdown fest" i expect the following bands..... Everybody gets hurt, Dehumanized, Irate, Billyclub sandwich, Back Of Tha Neck, Cease 2 Exist (REUNION), Shattered Realm, Betrayed By All, In Our Blood, Six Of Fire (REUNION) and maybe a Within One Intent reunion as well . now thats a beantown beatdown fest.



whatever, you keep on lifting weights and beating up people for no reason...this is why there are no more venues for shows because of idiots like you. I bet you associate the word "tuff" with your name.



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