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returntothepit >> discuss >> How to make a stronger metal scene by Y_Ddraig_Goch on Feb 20,2006 2:22pm
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toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 20,2006 2:22pm
So I have been thinking, how can one go about making the metal scene stronger in our area? What has worked in other places? So far some of the things I have done has been to make mix cds with all types of metal for friends who are not into metal yet, must say I have converted quite a few. It just seems there are to few people who are passionate about the music to really get a good following around here.

I live in Southern NH and I must say there is no metal presence around here at all, plenty of metalheads and bands, but no shows, no cool bars that play metal music.

There is a park in my city that has an outdoor stage and if I ever get my band up and going I want to see if I can get some kind of metal show there, that would be awesome but I bet it would never work. The heaviest music played there is like jazz rock fussion hahah.


So what do you think needs to be done in New England to make a really strong metal community?



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 20,2006 2:23pm
go to as many shows as you can possibly go to. and stop trying to save the world.



toggletoggle post by not a coincidenc at Feb 20,2006 2:23pm
more promoters.
more event organizing



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 20,2006 2:25pm
i fucking hate these threads.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 20,2006 2:26pm
nh has not scene cause there aren't places to play.
for "metal" you have some shows at the DBH, the spyder room, the muddy river and bigger ones at marks



toggletoggle post by not a coincidenc at Feb 20,2006 2:31pm
u guys should buy soundsystems n play in wharehouses like ravers do



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Feb 20,2006 2:31pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
if I ever get my band up and going I want to see if I can get some kind of metal show there


Otherwise, the hell with it.



toggletoggle post by not a coincidenc at Feb 20,2006 2:32pm
u guys should buy soundsystems n play in wharehouses like ravers do



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 20,2006 2:36pm
these threads belong on baystaterock



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Feb 20,2006 2:39pm
BornSoVile said:
i fucking hate these threads.


A lot!



toggletoggle post by mcmahon  at Feb 20,2006 2:43pm
i think a scene needs a certain level of constistancy in organizers and bands who pull off good shows that give a crowd an itch to want to come back for more...

the venues rev mentioned put on decent shows if the right bands are there on the right night, i'd check them out. You will probably see one of us there....



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Feb 20,2006 5:44pm
BornSoVile said:
i fucking hate these threads.





toggletoggle post by notcommon at Feb 20,2006 5:47pm
Step one: Go to O'Brien's tomorrow.
After step one is completed we can talk some more.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 20,2006 6:39pm
Sheesh, enough with these scene threads. Who fucking cares? Go see shows if you like the bands, and have a good time. Support the bands you want to support and stop worrying about it.

"Y Ddraig Goch" is a good song though.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 20,2006 7:23pm
support the palladium doodz!!!



toggletoggle post by contagion   at Feb 20,2006 7:24pm
lift weights! heavey, metal ones.



toggletoggle post by W3 in HULL at Feb 20,2006 7:25pm
drugs make metal stronger



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 20,2006 7:30pm
the answer is simple, three words all starting with the letter "p". give up?
its penis! AHAHAHAHAHAHA



toggletoggle post by notcommon at Feb 20,2006 7:31pm
I think the most important thing would be to get rid of all the attitude that alot of the newer bands have. Nobody deserves anything, get over it.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 20,2006 7:52pm
go to the fucking shows. how hard is that?



toggletoggle post by W3 in HULL at Feb 20,2006 8:05pm
notcommon said:
the attitude. Nobody deserves anything, get over it.


i dont think anyone here new or worse have attitudes, but it would be nice to see a lil less show begging



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Feb 20,2006 8:22pm
you can make a stronger metal scene by shutting up



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 20,2006 8:53pm


fuck the palladium and fuck the scene!! i like metal always have always will and i give a fuck if i am the only one in the world that does,i don't need a group of like minded peers to feel good about myself and neither should you...jerkoff



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 20,2006 9:08pm
that palladium comment was a joke, jackass.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Feb 20,2006 10:11pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
There is a park in my city that has an outdoor stage and if I ever get my band up and going I want to see if I can get some kind of metal show there


it would be really weird to see a metal show at greely park. i live in hudson, NH; me and my friend joked about starting a really bad grind band and playing there, but it would never happen.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 20,2006 10:18pm
NO CORE NO MOSH NO SCENE NO GIRLFRIEND



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 20,2006 10:31pm
notcommon said:
I think the most important thing would be to get rid of all the attitude that alot of the newer bands have. Nobody deserves anything, get over it.


Seriously...when I hear these douchebags with rockstar frontman syndrome bitching about how no one is moving it pisses me off. People have these illusions that they're going to be stars doing this shit.

Like Josh said, go to more shows, play shows, have fun, stop worrying.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 21,2006 12:04am
more testicles means more iron



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 21,2006 12:09am
notcommon said:
I think the most important thing would be to get rid of all the attitude that alot of the newer bands have. Nobody deserves anything, get over it.


get rid of the attitude? attitude?! fuck you man! i deserve it, because without me the metal scene is nothing. i am about to say fuck all of you guys and take my shit to oregon. i will give you a chance to beg for forgiveness because i'm the fuckin man.



toggletoggle post by irentheviking nli at Feb 21,2006 12:12am
that last one was me because im a pompous piece of shit



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Feb 21,2006 12:25am
I thought it was Terrance Herrera for a second.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Feb 21,2006 12:28am
this thread, and the other 10,000 just like it are stupid.
stop making threads about what is wrong with the scene, get a job and go to shows, buy merch from the bands that have it, the bands that dont, tell them to get some so you can buy it.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 21,2006 1:22am
The answer is clear. Kick me out of the scene.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 21,2006 1:30am
I am in desperate need of a shower.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 21,2006 1:31am
I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 21,2006 1:32am
see...we all have our problems. And we use these in the creation of our music, which promptly begins to suck, hence ruining the scene.

We're tearing it apart from the insides. What are you all going to do about it?



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 21,2006 1:34am
Move to Germany. Because any place that births a band named "Shitfuckers Dick and The Burning Assholes" is the place for me.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 21,2006 1:36am
I knew that Germany was going to weasel it's way into this conversation soon enough...the funny part is that I'm totally not lying at all.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 21,2006 1:37am
That's Germany for you. If you don't join their party they'll come and get you.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 21,2006 2:34am
I don't care about saving the world I just want to see a few more good metal shows in good venues. I go to as many shows as I can afford, I buy as much merch as I can (I buy every cd I have on my computer).

I just think it sucks that we get a few good shows a year here, and other places (Germany bwhaha) get awesome shows every week.

I also think it sucks on how few metal bands we have around here, and half of them are some kind of Cannibal corpse tribute band with a kazoo player thrown in to mix it all up.

I say it's the jews' fault!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 21,2006 2:47am
seriously. My band is guilty. Our live set = playing "Cannibal Corpse-The Bleeding" album in its entirety with guitars on clean, air drums, my left testicled miced with distortion and flange added on the channel.

Oh, and our two vocalists read Maya Angelou poetry in the voice of Elmer Fudd, but they read different poems at the same time.

it's totally br00tal and tr00.


but honesty, I think you aren't really giving the local bands a shot, there's a lot more out there than you're giving credit. Yes there is some generic crap, but not all to say the least.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 21,2006 8:23am
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
So I have been thinking, how can one go about making the metal scene stronger in our area? What has worked in other places? So far some of the things I have done has been to make mix cds with all types of metal for friends who are not into metal yet, must say I have converted quite a few. It just seems there are to few people who are passionate about the music to really get a good following around here.

I live in Southern NH and I must say there is no metal presence around here at all, plenty of metalheads and bands, but no shows, no cool bars that play metal music.

There is a park in my city that has an outdoor stage and if I ever get my band up and going I want to see if I can get some kind of metal show there, that would be awesome but I bet it would never work. The heaviest music played there is like jazz rock fussion hahah.


So what do you think needs to be done in New England to make a really strong metal community?



Good question.But idk the answer.Ive tried to get chicks I work with to go to shows with me but none of them are into Metal.Lets face it,the USA is not a country where Metal is the first choice of music.So just get used to the scene being DEAD.Cause New England is not the only place in this country where Metal is dying.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 21,2006 8:51am
metal is dying? tell that to hot topic. I hear they are doing good business is metal.

and the thing about greely park is hilarious. teach those fat cat's on concord st. what's what.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 21,2006 11:41am
REAL/Old School Metal is dying.I didnt mean NuMetal or Metalcore.That shit is for POSERS!!!!



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Feb 21,2006 12:19pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
REAL/Old School Metal is dying.


i don't understand how music can be considered dead or dying. people keep complaining "metal is dying" "punk is dead" etc... as long as YOU listen to and love this music, as long as YOU support your favorite bands, the music isn't dead. forget about your scene, it doesn't mean a thing. your love for the music is all that matters.



toggletoggle post by Cecchini at UML at Feb 21,2006 12:34pm
bands in NE are very clique like, just fall in with a clique, and play shows with them hahahaha.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 21,2006 12:36pm
MetalcoreSUCKS: I guess you missed the fact that just about ever REAL and OLD SCHOOL metal band is reforming and touring. do me a favor, when you are at the overkill show, go up to bobby and tell him that metal's dying.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 21,2006 12:49pm
notcommon said:
I think the most important thing would be to get rid of all the attitude that alot of the newer bands have. Nobody deserves anything, get over it.


agreed. neither do the dickheads that think they are multi platinum recording artists and spew shit about bands trying to acheive the same goal they are, when they are in no better of a position than the new guys, they are all still garage bands playing for next to nobody in the same clubs. for the thousandth time, if everyone just worked together it would work so much smoother. but, again for the thousandth time, no one will bother and there will still be "how can the scene work better" threads until the end of time.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 21,2006 1:19pm
the_reverend said:
MetalcoreSUCKS: I guess you missed the fact that just about ever REAL and OLD SCHOOL metal band is reforming and touring. do me a favor, when you are at the overkill show, go up to bobby and tell him that metal's dying.



Ok I will HA HA!!!!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 21,2006 1:21pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:

Ok I will HA HA!!!!


shut the fuck up, poser



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh nli at Feb 21,2006 1:37pm
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
So I have been thinking, how can one go about making the metal scene stronger in our area? What has worked in other places? So far some of the things I have done has been to make mix cds with all types of metal for friends who are not into metal yet, must say I have converted quite a few. It just seems there are to few people who are passionate about the music to really get a good following around here.

I live in Southern NH and I must say there is no metal presence around here at all, plenty of metalheads and bands, but no shows, no cool bars that play metal music.

There is a park in my city that has an outdoor stage and if I ever get my band up and going I want to see if I can get some kind of metal show there, that would be awesome but I bet it would never work. The heaviest music played there is like jazz rock fussion hahah.


So what do you think needs to be done in New England to make a really strong metal community?



Good question.But idk the answer.Ive tried to get chicks I work with to go to shows with me but none of them are into Metal.Lets face it,the USA is not a country where Metal is the first choice of music.So just get used to the scene being DEAD.Cause New England is not the only place in this country where Metal is dying.



cry about it, the more you complain,the more nothing is going to be solved




toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 21,2006 1:48pm
Metal is not dead, it's just hibernating!!!!


Yea I haven't been to too many shows lately because most of it is stuff that doesn't reall intrest me at all, for one I am a metal purist, can't stand anything with the least tinge of -core in it, so anything like that I don't bother going to see live. Can anyone recommend any bands out there from around here that play live enough to see them within the year so far the only local bands I have been gifted with hearing are SoB, 3HM, and seed, all of which I liked.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 21,2006 2:04pm
Ryan_M said:
MetalcoreSUCKS said:
REAL/Old School Metal is dying.


i don't understand how music can be considered dead or dying. people keep complaining "metal is dying" "punk is dead" etc... as long as YOU listen to and love this music, as long as YOU support your favorite bands, the music isn't dead. forget about your scene, it doesn't mean a thing. your love for the music is all that matters.



good post. scenes are gay.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 21,2006 2:36pm
if you haven't been to many shows, then you are part of the problem, not the solution.



toggletoggle post by cav at Feb 21,2006 2:47pm
if you book a solid show, its not overpriced, and on a weekend night kids usually come out. my reccomendation to anyone who is getting sick of playing for 2 kids, book bands that have members in high school...they have lots of friends...friends with money who dont have to pay rent and buy gear.



toggletoggle post by cav at Feb 21,2006 2:49pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
Metal is not dead, it's just hibernating!!!!


Yea I haven't been to too many shows lately because most of it is stuff that doesn't reall intrest me at all, for one I am a metal purist, can't stand anything with the least tinge of -core in it, so anything like that I don't bother going to see live. Can anyone recommend any bands out there from around here that play live enough to see them within the year so far the only local bands I have been gifted with hearing are SoB, 3HM, and seed, all of which I liked.


we played with seed, they have core in them if im thinking of the right band



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Feb 21,2006 3:00pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
Metal is not dead, it's just hibernating!!!!


Yea I haven't been to too many shows lately because most of it is stuff that doesn't reall intrest me at all, for one I am a metal purist, can't stand anything with the least tinge of -core in it, so anything like that I don't bother going to see live. Can anyone recommend any bands out there from around here that play live enough to see them within the year so far the only local bands I have been gifted with hearing are SoB, 3HM, and seed, all of which I liked.




this is what is wrong with the scene.
find a band you like, and go to all their shows, buy their stuff, shut up.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 21,2006 3:13pm
Recommend some negroes, I am not just going to find them in a treasure chest like in Orcarina of time or something. And scenes are gay, I used the word for lack of a better.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 21,2006 3:22pm
how can you expect a better "scene" when you wont help support it? so what if something has the word core in it? i agree that there are plenty of shitty ass bands out there that use the suffix -core, but that doesnt mean they are all bad. and remember there are many assholes who will label a band a certain genre simply because they dont like them, regardless of the actual style. take Sacreligion for example, we have been labeled as mall metal or nu core or whatever else has been said, but that is completely unfounded, usually that kind of hate is simply because one person didnt like it, and all the other people sucking his dick agree. if one were to take the time to actually listen, one would hear. if you just assume that you are going to hate something, or base your judgement off of someones opinion, then chances are you are going to hate it. try giving a broader spectrum of music a chance.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Feb 21,2006 3:22pm
Bill Cosby
Dave Chappelle
Danny Glover
Samuel L. Jackson
Don King
LL Cool J
Spike Lee
Morgan Freeman



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 21,2006 3:31pm
if you think the scene sucks and we get no good shows here at all, move to Kanasas and touch back with us in a month, see how many awesome tours are stoppin by on tuesday nights 5 hours away n whatnot. don't get me wrong, i think there is always room for improvement but thinking this place sucks is fucking retarded.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Feb 21,2006 5:36pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
So I have been thinking, how can one go about making the metal scene stronger in our area?


Don't tolerate mediocre music.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Feb 21,2006 5:57pm
infoterror said:
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
So I have been thinking, how can one go about making the metal scene stronger in our area?


Don't tolerate mediocre music.


There goes the majority of the scene.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 21,2006 6:28pm
sacreligion is numetal? oh man, fuck them.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 21,2006 6:28pm
sacreligion is numetal? oh man, fuck them.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Feb 21,2006 6:43pm
this thread has aids



toggletoggle post by aterribleguitarist  at Feb 21,2006 6:45pm
brian_dc said:
seriously. My band is guilty. Our live set = playing "Cannibal Corpse-The Bleeding" album in its entirety with guitars on clean, air drums, my left testicled miced with distortion and flange added on the channel.

Oh, and our two vocalists read Maya Angelou poetry in the voice of Elmer Fudd, but they read different poems at the same time.



PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do this next time you play with us. A Terrible Night for a Curse is going to cover N.F.L. by Anthrax, but the vocals will be done in the style of Fred Schneider of the B-52's. It's gonna kick ass.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 22,2006 12:18am
the_reverend said:
sacreligion is numetal? oh man, fuck them.


bah nuts



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 22,2006 12:31am
aterribleguitarist said:
brian_dc said:
seriously. My band is guilty. Our live set = playing "Cannibal Corpse-The Bleeding" album in its entirety with guitars on clean, air drums, my left testicled miced with distortion and flange added on the channel.

Oh, and our two vocalists read Maya Angelou poetry in the voice of Elmer Fudd, but they read different poems at the same time.



PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do this next time you play with us. A Terrible Night for a Curse is going to cover N.F.L. by Anthrax, but the vocals will be done in the style of Fred Schneider of the B-52's. It's gonna kick ass.



If we actually had the balls to go through with all the stupid ideas we got, we could take over the world...one special education student at a time.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 22,2006 12:34am



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Feb 22,2006 12:39am
make it easier for people to set up diy shows. Cambridge is being really gay about that lately.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 22,2006 12:43am
diy shows require a room with electricity, bands, mapquest, and some balls.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 22,2006 12:48am
remember: norse in every orifice



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 22,2006 12:49am
that also helps if possible



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 22,2006 12:50am
brian_dc said:
diy shows require a room with electricity, bands, mapquest, and some balls.


well i got mapquest...now what



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 22,2006 12:52am
count to 36 while imagining Carl Winslow doing a handstand while reciting the Communist Manifesto.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 22,2006 12:54am
done...i feel violated

SEE?! THIS DIDN'T HELP AT ALL!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 22,2006 12:59am
brick by brick I am bringing the scene down with my brand of utter nonsense.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 22,2006 1:01am
solve et coagula

*high five*



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Feb 22,2006 1:10am
more Obituary covers.

less..... everything else you people think is good.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 22,2006 1:12am
one time, I was listening to Obituary on my computer. It was so deadly that my computer broke on the spot...seriously, the second James Murphy bursted into a face melting solo, the fucking backlight just exploded.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 22,2006 2:28am
Carl winslow is the man, I wish he was in a death metal band. If I had photoshop I would be making a picture of it now.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 22,2006 10:43am
Harry from Harry and the Hendersons would make a good front man. in fact he kind of looks like the singer of Amon Amarth



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Feb 24,2006 10:49pm
FIGHT FOR HONOR, GLORY - DEATH IN FIRE!



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 24,2006 11:16pm
Ryan_M said:
FIGHT FOR HONOR, GLORY - DEATH IN FIRE!





toggletoggle post by my_pretentious_erection   at Feb 25,2006 1:12am
i'm trying to start a live dub scene in boston this spring.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Feb 25,2006 3:05am
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
There goes the majority of the scene.


Good. When the idiots are dead, we can have a smaller but much better scene. Needing too much music means it's a product, anyway, and products are for tools and whores.





toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Feb 25,2006 3:41am
music is good



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Feb 25,2006 5:37am
Joe/NotCommon said:



Ha ha ha





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