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returntothepit >> discuss >> over 100,000 dead in the first 14 months of Iraq invasion by HailTheLeaf on Jan 12,2006 3:03pm
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toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:03pm
I've been throwing that number out for awhile now, but here's something mentioning the actual study...100,000..yeah that counts as genocide right?

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/30655/



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 12,2006 3:05pm
nope. only if they are all the same race and are being killed because of their race.

sure, they are all just happen to being dirty camel jockies, but that's just conisidence.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:12pm edited Jan 12,2006 3:14pm
d'oh...so what's the term for murdering people who all live in the same country?



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 3:14pm
a 'Crusade' ?



toggletoggle post by Dissector   at Jan 12,2006 3:15pm
HailTheLeaf said:
d'oh...so what's the term for murdering people who all live in the same country?


War?



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:16pm edited Jan 12,2006 3:16pm
powerkok said:
a 'Crusade' ?


that's more of a religious mass slaughtering...one of those 'my imaginary friend in the sky is better than yours' deal, so this might well qualify...god our species is retarded...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 3:16pm
Would you rather it was 100,000 dead Americans?



toggletoggle post by Todd NLI at Jan 12,2006 3:18pm
powerkok said:
a 'Crusade' ?


Bush's Crusade



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:19pm edited Jan 12,2006 3:21pm
powerkok said:
Would you rather it was 100,000 dead Americans?


doesn't matter what country your parents fucked in, or where you were born. I see it as 100,000 dead people who didn't do anything to harm anyone. Americans, Iraqis...doesn't matter...we're not fucking special because we're Americans..I had nothing to do with where I was born and neither did you so why does it matter? Actually if it was 100,000 Americans there might be less traffic, so that would be a plus for me personally...less fat people to wait in line behind.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 3:21pm
I didnt say were special....but it does matter, because, call me selfish, but Id rather some religious maniacal suicide bomber was killed, instead of my brother.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:24pm edited Jan 12,2006 3:25pm
powerkok said:
I didnt say were special....but it does matter, because, call me selfish, but Id rather some religious maniacal suicide bomber was killed, instead of my brother.


I see your point, but the religious maniacal suicide bomber didn't get his panties into a bunch until another religious fanantic decided to invade his country (using poor people to fight instead of sacrificing himself) and blow up the suicide bomber's brother..or whole family...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 3:26pm
ya man.....war just plain ol sucks..eh?



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Jan 12,2006 3:28pm
powerkok said:
Would you rather it was 100,000 dead Americans?


They never killed anyone man, most of the dead over there are innocent Iraqi citizens



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:30pm
powerkok said:
ya man.....war just plain ol sucks..eh?


yep, stupid greedy bigots in suits shouldn't be allowed to steal public offices and start wars...someone should fix that...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 3:34pm
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
powerkok said:
Would you rather it was 100,000 dead Americans?


They never killed anyone man, most of the dead over there are innocent Iraqi citizens


yep.
Mostly killed by fellow Iraqis.
We havent bombed there in over a year, yet look at the rising amount of dead Iraqis...



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 12,2006 3:41pm
powerkok said:
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
powerkok said:
Would you rather it was 100,000 dead Americans?


They never killed anyone man, most of the dead over there are innocent Iraqi citizens


yep.
Mostly killed by fellow Iraqis.
We havent bombed there in over a year, yet look at the rising amount of dead Iraqis...


We bomb there all the time, just not aways from the air...and sometimes using naplam. And those people are dead because of U.S. policy, not fellow Iraqis, they might blow up a few people applying for police jobs every few days, but the occupation has killed the vast, vast majority. Gee, I'd be pissed if I only had running water and electricity for 2 hours a day too...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 4:00pm
lol.
they dont even manufacture napalm anymore.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 12,2006 4:01pm
but I do.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 12,2006 4:02pm
the formula is wicked hard.
gas (which is there is a lot of in iraq so you might want to think about doing all your napalming there if you want to do it in bulk) and styrofoam.
what could possiblyl go wrong?



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 4:03pm
yep....its wicked strong shit, guy.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 4:03pm
gas+vaseline



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 4:04pm
its for jerkin off with



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 12,2006 4:04pm
dude, I like made a bunch of naplam and then knocked back a haf-a-glass and was like DOOOOOD.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 4:05pm
dooooooood
omg....lol
sux2bu rofl...lmao....j/k
brb



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 12,2006 4:06pm
k



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 12,2006 4:08pm
buddy



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jan 12,2006 6:59pm
Most of those deaths that weren't from the invasion itself and fighting since are Iraqis being killed by Iraqis or other Arab loons that snuck in the country to blow themselves up in markets, schools, police stations, funerals, mosques, ect.
You see a shitload of dead Iraqis on the 10pm news or the front page of the Globe, it's almost always followed by "suicide bomber" or "car bomb".



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Jan 12,2006 7:23pm
powerkok said:
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
powerkok said:
Would you rather it was 100,000 dead Americans?


They never killed anyone man, most of the dead over there are innocent Iraqi citizens


yep.
Mostly killed by fellow Iraqis.
We havent bombed there in over a year, yet look at the rising amount of dead Iraqis...



Thats what the media tells you, but the truth is there is lots of shit going on over there. This WHOLE war started this, so the blame lies on the President and everyone who supports him, I still can't believe some people support this bullshit.



toggletoggle post by sever at Jan 12,2006 7:33pm
bitching about the 2003 war wont get you anywhere and will only be counterpositive. stop searching for someone or something to put blame on and realise that we have to fucking do something about the current situation. this is why nothing ever gets done.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 12,2006 7:58pm
I like the fact that we ousted Saddam, implanted democracy, only to have the majority of Shiites (the apple doesn't fall far from saddam) vote in more Shiites. I think historians years from now will realize that's why it failed, we simply couldn't comprehend that after Saddam was removed, the majority who supported him, would vote in favor of the same party that we just removed.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Jan 12,2006 8:12pm
BornSoVile said:
we simply couldn't comprehend that after Saddam was removed, the majority who supported him, would vote in favor of the same party that we just removed.


i don't think so. the voting is more likely religion based.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 12,2006 8:46pm
eddie said:
BornSoVile said:
we simply couldn't comprehend that after Saddam was removed, the majority who supported him, would vote in favor of the same party that we just removed.


i don't think so. the voting is more likely religion based.


yeah, that's basically what I said.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Jan 12,2006 9:23pm
yeah but shiites aren't all genocidal, like saddam. you make it sound like any shiite leader will follow in that madmans footsteps.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 12,2006 9:26pm
not enough



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 12,2006 9:34pm
CNV said:
not enough


so go sign up for a term in the guard.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 12,2006 9:34pm
eddie said:
yeah but shiites aren't all genocidal, like saddam. you make it sound like any shiite leader will follow in that madmans footsteps.



no you're just paranoid.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 12,2006 9:36pm
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
CNV said:
not enough


so go sign up for a term in the guard.



nah, I will just drink beer and laugh when large numbers of humans die



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 12,2006 9:43pm
CNV said:
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
CNV said:
not enough


so go sign up for a term in the guard.



nah, I will just drink beer and laugh when large numbers of humans die


true patriot



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 12,2006 10:02pm
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
CNV said:
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
CNV said:
not enough


so go sign up for a term in the guard.



nah, I will just drink beer and laugh when large numbers of humans die


true patriot


You should join!!! Go and die for George$$$ oil fields

patriotism or stupidity? You decide

If I am going to die for something I can assure you it would not be for this judeo christian government







toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 12,2006 10:15pm
nope, i dont believe in wars. nor do i condone the so called bush administration, i just think its amusing when people will say yes more dead people good go kill more...but in the same breathe wont get their own hands dirty.

i think the planet is fucked up enough without cheering on deaths that occuring for such trivial means



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Jan 12,2006 10:21pm
BornSoVile said:
I like the fact that we ousted Saddam, implanted democracy


That is total horse shit, implanting democracy is retarded. People should not be forced to swallow democracy at all.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 12,2006 10:22pm
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
nope, i dont believe in wars. nor do i condone the so called bush administration, i just think its amusing when people will say yes more dead people good go kill more...but in the same breathe wont get their own hands dirty.

i think the planet is fucked up enough without cheering on deaths that occuring for such trivial means



awww, thats cute

War is universal, it will always happen no matter how hard you wish it would not happen









toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 12,2006 10:26pm
CNV said:
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
nope, i dont believe in wars. nor do i condone the so called bush administration, i just think its amusing when people will say yes more dead people good go kill more...but in the same breathe wont get their own hands dirty.

i think the planet is fucked up enough without cheering on deaths that occuring for such trivial means



awww, thats cute

War is universal, it will always happen no matter how hard you wish it would not happen


wishing has nothing to do with it.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 12,2006 10:28pm
You need wars, death, and natural disasters

It helps prevent overpopulation

The more humanoids that die the better



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Jan 12,2006 10:31pm
CNV said:
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
nope, i dont believe in wars. nor do i condone the so called bush administration, i just think its amusing when people will say yes more dead people good go kill more...but in the same breathe wont get their own hands dirty.

i think the planet is fucked up enough without cheering on deaths that occuring for such trivial means



awww, thats cute

War is universal, it will always happen no matter how hard you wish it would not happen



war is universal?

among human civilizations, maybe. We aren't the universe though, and sooner or later there will be few to none of us left.

I'm just making a comment, nobody go apeshit on me now.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 12,2006 10:53pm
CNV said:
You need wars, death, and natural disasters

It helps prevent overpopulation

The more humanoids that die the better


you dont need war, what you need is natural selection...like nature has, we let our weak and dying breed. if we let them fend for themselves like nature then no there would be a hugely over populated world.

you wouldnt NEED wars, there should never be a thought about needing a war.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 13,2006 1:04pm
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
BornSoVile said:
I like the fact that we ousted Saddam, implanted democracy


That is total horse shit, implanting democracy is retarded. People should not be forced to swallow democracy at all.


How can we implant something we don't have right now? Why don't we just mind our own fucking business and concentrate on our own problems...like how over 1 million more children right here, in this country, are homeless because of Bush



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 13,2006 1:15pm
kill em all and let allah sort em out



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 13,2006 1:19pm
HailTheLeaf said:
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
BornSoVile said:
I like the fact that we ousted Saddam, implanted democracy


That is total horse shit, implanting democracy is retarded. People should not be forced to swallow democracy at all.


How can we implant something we don't have right now? Why don't we just mind our own fucking business and concentrate on our own problems...like how over 1 million more children right here, in this country, are homeless because of Bush


We are magic men. You better accept that too. And if you don't believe this is the best place to live on Earth, you're a anti-american pinko terrorist.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Jan 13,2006 2:10pm
BornSoVile said:
HailTheLeaf said:
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
BornSoVile said:
I like the fact that we ousted Saddam, implanted democracy


That is total horse shit, implanting democracy is retarded. People should not be forced to swallow democracy at all.


How can we implant something we don't have right now? Why don't we just mind our own fucking business and concentrate on our own problems...like how over 1 million more children right here, in this country, are homeless because of Bush


We are magic men. You better accept that too. And if you don't believe this is the best place to live on Earth, you're a anti-american pinko terrorist.



I hope you're not serious



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 13,2006 2:12pm
sarcasm is a bitch on the net!



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Jan 13,2006 2:14pm
haha, okay good I was gonna say

thats the kind of outlook that gets me pissed off



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 13,2006 3:16pm
I thought I was a freedom hating nazi hippy terrorist who believes in murdering the unborn...



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