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returntothepit >> discuss >> Decibel Magazine sure has black metal pegged . . . by litacore on Dec 21,2005 10:00am
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toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 21,2005 10:00am
. . . eh, not really. Black Sharpie vs. White Belt? Sharpie wins.
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Twilight
Story by J. Bennett

Twilight might be the ultimate “kult” band, but most of their members won’t even talk to us.
This black metal bullshit about staying “true” and “kult” is getting pretty tired. Every troupe of sallow-faced corpsepaint warriors from San Francisco to Bergen with a record on Moribund or Total Holocaust feels compelled to announce how much they have in common with Darkthrone or Burzum—or how far removed they are from the high-pitched vampire shriek of Cradle of Filth or the polished stormblasts of Dimmu Borgir—by limiting their releases to editions of 500 while bragging about how “necro” and obscure they are. “Grim” has become the black metal equivalent of death metal’s “brutal,” and a band’s credibility increases as the number of people who have actually heard their music decreases. This mentality is supposed to keep curiosity seekers and hipsters away from a culture that doesn’t cotton to outsiders, but it’s also exactly the mindset that makes us (read: me) cruise eBay hoping to score a copy of that rare, out-of-print Xasthur/Leviathan split 12-inch on Profound Lore for less than 50 bucks. Yeah, it’s pretty disgusting: black metal record hoarding has become both the extreme-culture version of philately and the heterosexual version of antiquing. If these releases were readily available at the local record shop, we (read: I) probably wouldn’t want them so badly. Of course, the fact that some of the most talented and enigmatic fixtures of the domestic black metal “scene” refuse to do interviews only compounds the impenetrable aura of the USBM underworld—and makes journalist douchebags (read: me) want to demystify their shit even more.

Which brings us to Twilight. The brainchild of Azentrius, (AKA Blake Judd of the one-man Chicago-area black metal outfit Nachtmystium), Twilight is a summit of the most creative and twisted minds in the American isolationist black metal circuit: Leviathan, Xasthur, Nachtmystium, Krieg and Draugar, all one-man bands that rarely (Nachtmystium, Krieg) or never (Xasthur, Leviathan, Draugar) play live. Originally commissioned by Sweden’s Total Holocaust Records, Twilight’s self-titled debut was quickly snatched up for US release by Southern Lord mastermind/Sunn0))) guitarist Greg Anderson, who also convinced Wrest (AKA Jef Whitehead of Leviathan/Lurker of Chalice) and Malefic (AKA Scott Conner of Xasthur) to contribute vocals to Sunn0)))’s latest drone opus, Black One. “Twilight is a great concept, but it seems like something that could’ve easily backfired, because you’re talking about musicians who pretty much work exclusively by themselves,” Anderson explains. “In the case of Wrest and Malefic, you’ve got two very misanthropic and isolated individuals who don’t ‘hang out’ or ‘jam’ as part of a group. So when I heard the concept I was like, ‘How’s that gonna work?’ It seemed like a Mission: Impossible kind of thing.”

After e-mailing interview requests to Wrest and Hildolf (AKA Tim Lehi of Draugar)—both of whom gave us the finger—and Malefic—who ignored us—we finally got Azentrius on the horn to explain the cagey elitism of his bandmates. “It’s bogus that they’ve got an attitude like that,” Judd admits, “but I think Jef got sick of being interviewed in magazines with bands he wants nothing to do with, so he’s kind of adopted this very underground-only attitude, which is strange when you consider how incredibly open-minded he is as a music fan. I mean, we were sitting around his house listening to Steely Dan records.” (Stranger still: Wrest apparently has no qualms with a Leviathan track appearing on Thrasher magazine’s Eat the Flag compilation alongside decidedly non-underground bands like Alkaline Trio, Turbonegro and Bam Margera’s Gnarkill.)

Like many artists who make their music commercially available, Azentrius sees nothing wrong with promoting his records beyond the message boards and (parents’) basements of the black metal sub-underground, even if it costs him some credibility in the eyes of the self-appointed “kult” police. “I was like that when I was 17, you know?” he says. “And I deal with people like that now. Just because I’m in a band on Southern Lord and doing interviews with glossy magazines, some of the underground jackasses I’ve been tape trading with for years won’t deal with me anymore because I’ve stepped out of the little circle.”

Clique transgressions and publicity-shy personnel aside, Twilight is a total motherfucker of an album recorded on four-track cassettes sent back and forth through the mail by the five members. As such, it captures the myriad sonic idiosyncrasies of the individual players, from Xasthur’s charred synth ambience and Leviathan’s expert d-drum patterns to Draugar’s cavernous vocals and Nachtmystium’s ruthless guitar torture. Of course, disciples of the musicians’ corresponding bands will jizz over Twilight no matter what; that the record happens to be pretty killer is just a bonus. “The fact that people like it amuses us,” Azentrius chuckles. “We all think it blows. I mean, I’ve grown to love it because I worked hard on it, and it was a cool experience, but we’re capable of a lot more. We’ve already got four tracks done for the next Twilight record, and it doesn’t even sit in the same room with the one that’s out now.”

Despite the fact that most of its members shun publicity—and the band itself conducts most of its business through the mail—the one time all five Twilight dudes actually assembled as a group was for a promotional photo shoot just outside Pasadena, CA. “It was funny,” Anderson recalls. “Because, of course, Wrest didn’t really want to participate, but he was very vocal about his ideas. I remember Malefic was wearing white socks and Vans, and Wrest was like, ‘Dude, what are you doing?’ It reminded me of high school or something.”



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 21,2005 10:10am
I didn't read this, but decibel has only let me down with one issue.
and twilight has yet to let me down.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 21,2005 10:23am
didn't decibel name killswitch band of the year last year? if so, i'm not going to listen to their opinion of black metal.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 21,2005 10:28am edited Dec 21,2005 10:28am
I want to throw Kodiak spit in that writers face. Anyone have a can of it?



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 21,2005 10:31am
that was actually very well written. its nothing new, but it further expresses the malcontent of black metal fans and this elitism bullshit. but again, its nothing we all havent said a thousand times. that its retarded and people should just listen to whatever the fuck they want and stop this "grim" bullshit.



toggletoggle post by ryanfromhbbsi at Dec 21,2005 11:20am
Yeti said:
that was actually very well written. its nothing new, but it further expresses the malcontent of black metal fans and this elitism bullshit. but again, its nothing we all havent said a thousand times. that its retarded and people should just listen to whatever the fuck they want and stop this "grim" bullshit.


no no, they can keep being "grim." provides many of us with good laughs



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 21,2005 11:34am



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 21,2005 11:34am
HAHAHA, he's like Zelig!



toggletoggle post by eddienli at Dec 21,2005 11:55am
i don't know how i got them(metal fest maybe?), but have two decibel mags. to me all it is, is interviews and well written articles i don't agree with.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 21,2005 11:56am
I liked the article... I got the wrath of the black metal fashion police before for wearing sneakers

I am so not KULT anymore!!!




toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 21,2005 11:58am
Wrest is a grouch

but an amazingly talented grouch



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 21,2005 11:59am
I am soooooo elite because I have more patches on my spike kult jean jacket and I also have mondo obscuro demos that are buried in a cave that shall never be unearthed!!!! Hahahahahahaha (evil laughter)



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 21,2005 12:02pm
Limited to 3.5 copies



toggletoggle post by KULT KIDDIE at Dec 21,2005 12:07pm
*goes and trades every Boreb demo and rehersal on slsk before mom catches him on the computer*



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 21,2005 12:14pm
Only 8 track is real



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 21,2005 12:26pm


6 degrees



toggletoggle post by cdan nli at Dec 21,2005 2:05pm
the_reverend said:
I didn't read this, but decibel has only let me down with one issue.
and twilight has yet to let me down.


the one with that homo from Queers of the Stone Gayge on the cover?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Dec 21,2005 2:20pm
I don't know...I think offering that it should be about the music and not the image is a good thing. And the "true" "grim" "cult" thing is very image. I don't see why this pisses people off.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 29,2005 5:46pm
twilight are sell outs trying to milk a genre that 96% of the population is not capable of understanding or relating to. I guess scott decided that he is in his mid-thirtys and his trusty online confidantes have been suggesting he adjust his lifestyle temperture to hot hot hot convincing him that his life was in need of taking a new turn, pointing up the ladder out of hell and through purgatory, into a convenient spot where everyone can hype it up and maybe someday black metal will be the next gangsta rap after its shed the shadow that obscured for so long. now that twilight has entered paradise where hippies and suicidal emos frolick hand in hand for the sake of nothing is sacred cause maybe now that malefic is in their band they can get huge to make more money until the only thing that is sacred is their hairdos, to make some quick cash at any expense... funny scott hasn't worked since well, his first job ever : selling christmas trees to his last job before becoming a BM rock star: washing dishes. back in 99. good tymes? hey0 now that he knows that guy from sunn0, who knows a guy who was friends with kurt kobain, malefic has stumbled upon a career in rock stardom. maybe to impress his newly acquired and much younger beaner girlfriend. I'm sure she wouldn't be to keen on having a grim boyfriend unless of course he was a rock star that she can brag about to her friends during recess whilst they clip grim pictures of their twilight super studs out of the latest issue of teen beat magazine underneath the grim shadow of the handball court at school. if you can see that being trendy waters down the meaning of the music but you don't care cause you know your music never meant shit to begin with so might as well milk the undeserved credit and XXTRA $$$$$$ !!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 29,2005 5:50pm
the thing i don't understand is how black metal musicians can came from southern california. that's the most un-blackmetal place in the country, but yet some of the best BM bands come from there.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 29,2005 5:54pm
hahaha, beaner

I'd love to see Malefic in a Mexcian Hat and a bandolero

fully corpsepainted, of course



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 29,2005 6:00pm
dont forget the vans and elemental tshirt



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 29,2005 7:24pm
how about a star of david too?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 29,2005 7:26pm
fuck david. king herod is where it's at.



toggletoggle post by Cathach at Dec 30,2005 1:39am
J. is a die hard metal kid and the article was right on target.Even though I am pretty much a Black Metal person, I have always found alot of the attitudes ridiculous.Am I hateful? Without a doubt but to let that rule your life is pathetic.I'd rather watch my YOUNG ONES dvd than be grim.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 30,2005 9:53am
yes. YES!

and now, a quote of wisdom from each member of the Young Ones household.

NEIL: Look, man. Sleep gives you cancer. Everyone knows that.

VYVYAN: Piss off.

MIKE THE COOL PERSON: A social conscience is like a garden shed. If you try and eat it, it will stick in your throat.

RICK: Pollution. All around. Sometimes up, sometimes down. But all around. Pollution, are you coming to my town, or am I coming to yours? HAH! We're on different buses, pollution. But we're both using petrol bombs.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 30,2005 1:22pm
Cathach said:
J. is a die hard metal kid and the article was right on target.Even though I am pretty much a Black Metal person, I have always found alot of the attitudes ridiculous.Am I hateful? Without a doubt but to let that rule your life is pathetic.I'd rather watch my YOUNG ONES dvd than be grim.


i agree with this post, especially the part about the young ones. that show is hilarious. i only knew a couple people who like that show, but recently i've found more people who are into it. i haven't seen it in a while, because i don't have the dvd, but i watched it with my guitarist scott and chris from powerglove a while back and loved it.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 3,2006 3:44am
Are you all retarded? These guys were making this music for years before twilight was even an idea. You are all talking shit like they havnt paid their dues, and like you could write music even comparable to thiers. Being grim and necro is part of black metal. It is a statement against society and commercialism and the overproduction and moneywhoring that goes along with it. These musicians have stayed true to thier music and thier ideals, and if they are finally being successful with it, good for them. They didnt run to the success it came to them. If you guys dont get grimness or hatefulness you dont get black metal so shut the fuck up.



toggletoggle post by DJ Death at Jan 3,2006 11:01am
Euronymous was the only one during the second wave of black metal that should have endored famousness and riches. The rest all took advantage of his corpse. The first wavers, like King Diamond, Hellhammer/Celtic Frost and Bathory got what the deserved, credentials for orignal tunes. Now, just like rock and pop, black metal is so common that the feelings it spread are dead and lost.



toggletoggle post by this is gay at Jan 3,2006 11:42am
Euronymous was a gimmick (Mayhem was great though)
He would say stuff like have No fun all the time and then he would laugh at shit




toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Jan 3,2006 12:41pm
anonymous said:
twilight are sell outs trying to milk a genre that 96% of the population is not capable of understanding or relating to.


and thats solely why i love their record, thank you southern lord



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