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returntothepit >> discuss >> 12/17 - VITAL REMAINS, INCANTATION, CANNAE, PORPHYRIA, RUMPLESTILTSKIN GRINDER by RustedAngel on Nov 2,2005 2:45pm
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toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 2,2005 2:47pm
who's on vocals for vital remains now?



toggletoggle post by mOe  at Nov 2,2005 2:50pm
JEsus Christ...hopefully i can make it out to this show, i'm playing in UPstate NY the night before



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Nov 2,2005 2:50pm
thats sick, im coming out for this



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 2,2005 2:50pm
I don't know if the tour's over yet but Anthony's been doing vocals for that. Im not sure if he's permanent or not.



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 2,2005 2:51pm
Dec 18th
Vital Remains
Incantation
Throwing Shrapnel

@Empress Ballroom Danbury, CT



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Nov 2,2005 2:53pm
$17 for Vital and Incant???




toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 2,2005 2:55pm
shrapnel ! said:
Dec 18th
Vital Remains
Incantation
Throwing Shrapnel

@Empress Ballroom Danbury, CT


ten bucks !



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Nov 2,2005 2:57pm
who the hells anthony?!



toggletoggle post by babyshaker at Nov 2,2005 2:57pm
why the hell are cannea and skulltobbogan on this



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 2,2005 3:00pm
babyshaker said:
why the hell are cannea and skulltobbogan on this


skulltoboggan, I have no friggen idea...I would rather see someone else on there like teratism.



toggletoggle post by Grind My Gonads! at Nov 2,2005 3:05pm
Is there any way to find out how much time R.G. will have on stage? I hope they get more than 4 songs...



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 2,2005 3:21pm
Aegathis said:
who the hells anthony?!

Ummm....he's this guy i know. I used to live with him for awhile. come to think of it i was in a band with him too. he bounces at alot of clubs in providence, maybe youve seen him there. he looks like anton lavey on sterroids.




toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Nov 2,2005 4:12pm
haha like a couple of their previous vocalists



toggletoggle post by wakeoftears  at Nov 2,2005 4:26pm
sick, I didnt want to have to go to fucking danbury



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Nov 2,2005 4:28pm
Josh_Martin said:
$17 for Vital and Incant???



I guess the days of seeing them for next to nothing at Maine pigroasts are over. Still a good show though.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 2,2005 4:38pm
Aegathis said:
haha like a couple of their previous vocalists

yea theyve definitely had a theme going




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 2,2005 4:51pm



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 2,2005 5:01pm
yup thats anthony. me and him killed a bottle of southern comfort one night and he ended up passing out on his face on the living room floor. he was too heavy to lift anywhere so we tilted his head to the side and put a bucket in front of his face.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 5:25pm
SMELLS LIKE A KENNY LANNING PRODUCTION.



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Nov 2,2005 5:27pm
that's a good show but skulltobogan kind of sticks out like a sore thumb eh



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 5:54pm
BornSoVile said:
SMELLS LIKE A KENNY LANNING PRODUCTION.





toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 2,2005 5:56pm
I will go if I get guestlisted, and I probably will.



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Nov 2,2005 5:57pm
RustedAngel said:
Vital Remains Live in Belgium Oct. 10th 2005
http://deimos.curious.be/~Stillonline/octvideo/vitalremains/index.html


haha! I know that dude, never would have pictured him singing for vital...



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 6:10pm
RustedAngel said:
Vital Remains Live in Belgium Oct. 10th 2005
http://deimos.curious.be/~Stillonline/octvideo/vitalremains/index.html


that Ron on the bass!?

is the singer the dude who bounced at the met???



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 2,2005 6:17pm
BornSoVile said:
RustedAngel said:
Vital Remains Live in Belgium Oct. 10th 2005
http://deimos.curious.be/~Stillonline/octvideo/vitalremains/index.html


that Ron on the bass!?

is the singer the dude who bounced at the met???


yea, anthony is the man, i love that dude.



toggletoggle post by nate nli at Nov 2,2005 6:20pm
Yeah that's Ron on bass.



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at Nov 2,2005 6:21pm
Anthony is a killer guy. That's rad that he got to do that Vital tour...

VR and Incantation is a killer show for sure but I hate the Downstairs at the Palladium so I hope it's upstairs...



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Nov 2,2005 8:27pm
I remember ron saying he he played bass for them at one point. I talked to that kid thats playin drums for them now a couple times online. I guess hes only like 19 and he lives in California,but he used to live in Maynard Mass. You can see his profile here http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...4DF-4868-9C8D7BF731EE1D652707489328



toggletoggle post by DEATH2ALLNLI at Nov 2,2005 8:35pm
RustedAngel said:
babyshaker said:
why the hell are cannea and skulltobbogan on this


skulltoboggan, I have no friggen idea...I would rather see someone else on there like teratism.


Me too.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 2,2005 8:47pm
TERATISM rules!



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 2,2005 8:56pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
TERATISM rules!


I am surprised you think so.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 2,2005 9:07pm
Why is that?

Because they are great?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 2,2005 9:09pm
I recommended Teratism but I think Burn My Remains might be added which is cool in my book too, but still.........

The cover is actually $15, I'll change the flyer tommorrow.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 2,2005 9:15pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Why is that?

Because they are great?


It was a joke you dope.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 9:16pm
BornSoVile said:
SMELLS LIKE A KENNY LANNING PRODUCTION.






toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 9:25pm
can someone please confirm this so I can start my boycott campaign, like now.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 9:33pm
Abhorred was supposed to play this, but since I care more about protecting bands from a shady promoter who lies to everyone, it was decided (along with several other bands) that supporting this asshole is just simply wrong. I can't believe people still suck him off to play real shitty lineups like this. I've lost total respect.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 2,2005 9:48pm edited Nov 2,2005 9:49pm
yes, Kenny is 'booking the show' but the palladium seems to be running it. First off there is no sucking off going on, we've never asked him to play anything, he's come to us. We don't even ask to get paid (except gas $) and for the last show we played at the palladium we got $100 which is more than we'd usually get. Until we're fucked over directly by someone I'm not going to stop playing their shows unless my entire band comes to a general agreement. Does anyone else book shows at the palladium?????????? besides Scott Lee? Because e-mailing him is like e-mailing yourself.



toggletoggle post by Phrozenspite at Nov 2,2005 9:49pm
wow is all I can say... is this a downstairs or upstairs?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 2,2005 9:51pm
upstairs. most likely.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 2,2005 9:54pm
I don't think Vital Remains and Incantation is a shitty show for a band to want to play. I hope the kids out in that dump of a city like Rumpelstiltskin Grinder.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 2,2005 9:58pm
I think it's unfortunate some bands would rather step over each other in order to play a shitty sounding club that's all ages. I can't believe people still chase the carrot he dangles in front of them despite the fact that he's fucked over anyone and everyone he's been "worked" with. I think it's unfortunate that people would rather help this asshole than stand as one with each other. I think it's unfortunate that people feel so desperate they have to work with him. I think it's unfortunate that I am not going to this show.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 12:14am
shrapnel ! said:
Dec 18th
Vital Remains
Incantation
Throwing Shrapnel

@Empress Ballroom Danbury, CT


"If you wanna play this show you will have to sell 50 tickets.
You will also get paid $100 when you sell 50 tickets.
If you are still interested send an email to empressballroom@hotmail.com:

1. Band name
2. Date of Show you want (and headliner)

If you are still interested and there is an opening
I'll get the wheels rolling... "

hahaha good luck with that, christ! and I actually thought there might be a cool club in CT again...I guess not...



toggletoggle post by xxxproctologist at Nov 3,2005 12:18am
Joe/NotCommon said:
I will go if I get guestlisted, and I probably will.


pretensious{masshole} pussbag!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Nov 3,2005 12:20am
RustedAngel said:
shrapnel ! said:
Dec 18th
Vital Remains
Incantation
Throwing Shrapnel

@Empress Ballroom Danbury, CT


"If you wanna play this show you will have to sell 50 tickets.
You will also get paid $100 when you sell 50 tickets.
If you are still interested send an email to empressballroom@hotmail.com:

1. Band name
2. Date of Show you want (and headliner)

If you are still interested and there is an opening
I'll get the wheels rolling... "

hahaha good luck with that, christ! and I actually thought there might be a cool club in CT again...I guess not...


wow, if this wasn't during exams for me I'd be going just so TS doesn't get fucked for this.



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 3,2005 1:00am
thank brian, and hmm i remember people didnt seem to mind selling tickets to play with cryptopsy. so yeah i'll sell tickets to play with vital remains, i'm pretty sure a lot of bands on here would.

who wants to go to ct !



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 3,2005 1:04am
I'll go to CT. say loud n proud FUCK KENNY.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 1:14am
Who the fuck is Kenny?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 3,2005 1:19am
insider says worcester wont happen, fyi.

and im not sayin this to be a dick, its an honest statement, guys, check up on it.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 3,2005 1:25am
and let it be known, right now, TS will not get fucked on this.

people act as if rttp is the entire world of music, for the record more than half of that are pretty much sold, thanks.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 1:27am
who the fuck is kenny



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 3,2005 7:56am
BornSoVile said:
I think it's unfortunate some bands would rather step over each other in order to play a shitty sounding club that's all ages. I can't believe people still chase the carrot he dangles in front of them despite the fact that he's fucked over anyone and everyone he's been "worked" with. I think it's unfortunate that people would rather help this asshole than stand as one with each other. I think it's unfortunate that people feel so desperate they have to work with him. I think it's unfortunate that I am not going to this show.


Who did Porphyria step over to play this gig? I am not one to stick up for those guys, but you need to articulate your argument better. There is no unity in the metal scene.



toggletoggle post by scene drama 101 at Nov 3,2005 8:01am
Joe/NotCommon said:
There is no unity in the metal scene.


was there ever.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 8:10am
12/17/05 Worcester, MA United States Palladium


w/ Vital Remains, Incantation, Cannae, Byzantine, Porphyria, Skulltoboggan



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Nov 3,2005 9:13am
RustedAngel said:
babyshaker said:
why the hell are cannea and skulltobbogan on this


skulltoboggan, I have no friggen idea...I would rather see someone else on there like teratism.


we would do anything to play this...thanx for sayin that rusted..we are ready to play by then.



toggletoggle post by jack's crushed spirit at Nov 3,2005 9:18am
Robdeadskin said:
we are ready to play by then.


dec 16th, no

dec 18th, yes


hmm weirdness !



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Nov 3,2005 9:19am
what the hell is the 16th..i dont know about that.



toggletoggle post by jack‘s crushed spirit at Nov 3,2005 9:23am
Robdeadskin said:
what the hell is the 16th..i dont know about that.


friday dec 16th
center for arts
14 Summer Street Natick, Ma
7:30start ALL AGES 7bucks

Abhorred
Continued Without A Finding
Throwing Shrapnel
the Heuristic
1 tba !



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Nov 3,2005 9:25am
i didnt know about that personally..when were we asked? Who did u ask?...we are trying just to shoot for dec. gigs...but,dont want to go on unprepared..



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 3,2005 9:26am
hey rob IM me, high54cancer



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Nov 3,2005 9:28am
im on my roomates computer..i dont know how to do that



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Nov 3,2005 9:28am
if u were logged in i would send u my number.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 11:46am
RustedAngel said:


FULLSIZE: http://www.porphyria666.com/images/flyer_051217.jpg


last time I saw this flyer, we definatly were not on it. What a fucking score getting this show is



toggletoggle post by Hung_TO_Bleed_NLI at Nov 3,2005 11:47am
that was me



toggletoggle post by DEATH2ALLNLI at Nov 3,2005 12:23pm
Robdeadskin said:
RustedAngel said:
babyshaker said:
why the hell are cannea and skulltobbogan on this


skulltoboggan, I have no friggen idea...I would rather see someone else on there like teratism.


we would do anything to play this...thanx for sayin that rusted..we are ready to play by then.


I thought the same thing, until I heard kenny's booking.



toggletoggle post by DEATH2ALLNLI at Nov 3,2005 12:26pm
jack‘s crushed spirit said:
Robdeadskin said:
we are ready to play by then.


dec 16th, no

dec 18th, yes


hmm weirdness !


I never said no. I said we would talk about it. poopface.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 3,2005 12:33pm
DEATH2ALLNLI said:
jack‘s crushed spirit said:
Robdeadskin said:
we are ready to play by then.


dec 16th, no

dec 18th, yes


hmm weirdness !


I never said no. I said we would talk about it. poopface.


haha such harsh language, i cant take this type of treatment i'm going loco !



toggletoggle post by Kessaris V.2.0 at Nov 3,2005 12:35pm
Porphyria sucks
Vital Remains sucks

This show sucks. I will NOT be there...



...I'm lying



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 3,2005 12:37pm
if i didnt hate the palladium, id go to this show as well.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 12:39pm
Kessaris V.2.0 said:
Porphyria sucks
Vital Remains sucks

This show sucks. I will NOT be there...



...I'm lying


I hate you so much





...lying.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 2:05pm
rustedangel would fuck over anyone to get a show. He's only in it for the fame



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 2:06pm
anonymous said:
rustedangel would fuck over anyone to get a show. He's only in it for the fame


hahahahahah



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 2:13pm
rustedangle wouldn't know a metal riff if it fell on him.. he's guitar isn't even plugged in

if you want people to come to this show please take his band out of the lineup.



toggletoggle post by BMR at Nov 3,2005 2:15pm
Wow, that kid would run circles around you on a guitar.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 3,2005 2:22pm
yeah thats about all he could do is run.. he's a pussy .. he's from maine for gods sake



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 3,2005 2:24pm
hahaha, and by the power of anonymous, watch my balls grow.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 2:24pm
BMR said:
Wow, that kid would run circles around you on a guitar.


actually, he is correct, I do suck. In fact, I'm never plugged in.



toggletoggle post by XanonymousX at Nov 3,2005 2:26pm
see told you! the only plugs he has are in his butt



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 2:26pm
anonymous said:
he's a pussy .. he's from maine for gods sake


you got me again... 1 more and I'm outta here! I'd be the first to admit that I'm a pussy, I blame my dad mostly, and pizza.



toggletoggle post by cav at Nov 3,2005 3:09pm
death metal shows are always way overpriced



toggletoggle post by XanonymousX at Nov 3,2005 3:22pm
it's because rusted angel is demanding too much money to play this show.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 3,2005 3:55pm
XanonymousX said:
it's because rusted angel is demanding too much money to play this show.


I'M CALLING YOU OUT...
Everyone, everyone meet Kristian, he works across the room from me and he has a girlfriend.



toggletoggle post by XanonymousX at Nov 3,2005 3:55pm
and I don't have to work on Fridays



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Nov 3,2005 9:51pm
I can't believe I'm saying this, but in comparison to TS, PORPHYRIA kinda deserves this!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 4,2005 5:16am
BestialOnslaught said:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but in comparison to TS, PORPHYRIA kinda deserves this!


yeah they have their show, we have ours i dont even know why that's brought up.

now who wants to buy a ticket !



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 4,2005 1:52pm
My reasons for being "upset" with Porphyria about this show,
A) They have repeatedly worked with Kenny despite several bands trying to abolish him from the scene.
B) When Kenny fucked over all the local bands,Blue (money for PA) at the Neuraxis show - I was persisently bugging Kenny to pay up, their singer Tim told me to "knock it off" because "everytime he says he'll pay porphyria, he does".
C) Porphyria could make a stand being one of the bigger local bands on that bill, but instead they are more concerned about playing the show instead of taking a stand against this scum.

I have nothing personal against the music or members of Porphyria, I just think it's a shame they keep working with this scum bag. I can't believe people like being lied to repeatedly, ripped off excessively and controlled by someone who knows NOTHING about the scene/metal. I think it's a fucking shame that bands still feel desperate enough to work with him.
Yes, Vital Remains is a great act to play with. Would I like to play with them? Yes, I would be honored. But under these circumstances, any support for the promoter of this show is a direct disservice to many individuals that have put years of hard work and money into particuarlly the Boston scene. It's an insult to the integrity of this area that people work with him. I hope BMR and Skulltoboggin won't be pulling shit like this in the future, I know they're both young bands, but you guys caught incredible breaks getting on the show-you do know that the reason you guys are on is so Kenny and take advantage/use you at his command.
That's it, I'm not talking about this in THIS thread anymore. I will be posting bulletins and such all over myspace, expressing my motives but direct action present within in this thread is not my style. I consider Porphyria to be friends of mine, so don't take my words as fighting words. However I do wanna slap Tom upside the head for this one, : p



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 4,2005 2:00pm
BestialOnslaught said:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but in comparison to TS, PORPHYRIA kinda deserves this!


thanks man, and then someday you'll actually see us and be able to possibly legitimize making statements like that as opposed to making blind comments.



toggletoggle post by cav at Nov 4,2005 2:10pm
THERE IS A BREAKDOWN IN THIS SONG!!! i thought death metal had no breakdowns?!! haha



toggletoggle post by degenerate bastard at Nov 4,2005 2:35pm
providence is working on the dec 16th date for this show at the jeep shop . it is not confermed yet though . but if we land it this club is the shit ,and i bartend the motherfucker so don\'t worry about the fuckin 5$ beers @ the pagaydium see this shit in there home town 3$ dom
4$ imports ! 12$ doors



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 4,2005 2:41pm
where is the jeep shop?



toggletoggle post by degenerate bastard at Nov 4,2005 2:52pm
it\'s behimd the foxy lady . pull onto that street go to end take right and it\'s the second building on right . 3 story brick building you can see it fro 146 -95 s split. were gonna have a free show wed nov 23rd w/ i destroyer - reason to fight - essence of pain - plus three more check it out if you want



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 4,2005 2:53pm
cool



toggletoggle post by Timmy Porphyria (yeah the singer) at Nov 4,2005 3:28pm
Why does every thread posted on RTTP turn intoa soap opera? Just a couple things I would like to say.
First off, we were offered to play this show and we accepted, no one was stepped over or disrspected or anything of that nature nor did we did "suck anyone off" to get this show.
Secondly, to say we are "disrespecting" other bands by playin this show is ridiculous. Bottom line is this, my band is my band and it comes before any other band. If anyone here tells you they look out for someone else's band before their own is full of shit. I also find it to be extremley homosexual to label us as the scapegoat for supporting scum. When you call up Vital Remains and Incantation to let them know that they are "supporting scum" as well you can come talk to me.
and lastly, we have worked very hard to get where we are today and we're not even close to where we want to be, we do this because we love to do it. I find it very insulting that the people we chill with at shows and the bands we play/have played with in kids basement start downing us for stupid ass politcal "scene" crap. It's a fucking show for christs sake, they're put on so people can go and enjoy them. If you think one kid that books shows is single-handedly going to destroy your entire "metal" scene in Mass your just as loopy as he his.

P.S. Thanks to Joe Not Common and the dude from Bestial Onslaught for throwin us some support our way, cool. Unexpected, but cool.



toggletoggle post by BMR at Nov 4,2005 3:29pm
This is in response to Josh's statement above- To me it seems like you think that we had to get on our knees to get this show. We, just like Porphryia, have never asked Kenny to play anything, he always asked us. In our eyes it was a no-brainer, the thought of not playing this for whatever reason never crossed our mind. I understand your argument and you've made this same argument to me once before. But you need to understand that we're not intentionally spitting on yours or anyone elses face by playing this. As far as we're concerned this is an oppurtunity to get more people to hear our music, I don't care about money and I sure as shit don't care about helping Kenny. The only people we're helping in this whole ordeal is ourselves. Do we know what we're getting ourselves into? Yes, this isn't the first time we've worked with Kenny, same as Porphyria and a lot of other people on here, yourself included. We've had our moments with the kid and we're sure as shit not friends with the kid. He happened to book a pretty solid show, with some bands that all of us would be more than honored to play with. I guess the main point in this goes back to my previous assumption, that you think that we had to suck Kenny off for this. That is certainly not the case. This is a big oppurtunity for any band, we feel fortunate to be a part of it regardless of who the promoter is. I'm not talking shit or anything, and as I said I understand your argument and I go into this situation with an air of caution. I don't plan on getting paid for this show so Kenny can't fuck us financially. The only way he could truelly fuck us over is to renage on his word and remove us from the show, in which case I'll admit defeat and you can give us a nice "I told you so" But until that day comes, and trust me it probably will someday, we're going to go with what we see is the best decisions for us as a band regardless of others opinions. And again, I'm not talking shit to you or disrespecting you in anyway, if that's how I come off I apologize.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 4,2005 3:33pm
Timmy Porphyria said:
Why does every thread posted on RTTP turn intoa soap opera? It's a fucking show for christs sake, they're put on so people can go and enjoy them.


blah blah blah stop sucking people off dood, gross



toggletoggle post by sinofangels-ray  at Nov 4,2005 3:42pm
All I can say is Fucking WOW



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 4,2005 3:47pm
Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who.

RustedAngel said:



KeithMutiny said:


Timmy Porphyria said:
Why does every thread posted on RTTP turn intoa soap opera? It's a fucking show for christs sake, they're put on so people can go and enjoy them.




toggletoggle post by Timmy Porphyria (yeah the singer) at Nov 4,2005 3:52pm
I love how the "anonymous" talk the most shit. By the power of anonymous, watch my balls grow.....hahah so true. Hey you know where I'll be on Dec. 17th, you'll have all the time in the world to tell me to my face how I suck dudes off. See you there tough guy.



toggletoggle post by sinofangels-ray  at Nov 4,2005 4:40pm
it's only a show people there will be many more to go around so if someones band didn't make this one i'm sure there will be others that will roll around and try and get on the next one. It's not the last metal show ever



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Nov 4,2005 6:53pm
sinofangels-ray said:
It's not the last metal show ever


IT'S NOT!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!


AHAHAHAHAHAHA I will more then likely be there for this, sick lineup



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 4,2005 8:25pm
I am sure the Palladium handles things alot of more responsibly then some hall show or even the place where Neuraxis played. I don't really see Vital Remains or Incantation (who both probably have contracts) getting screwed over. If I was in Porphyria I would definately jump at this show if it was offered, regardless of if Goratory didn't get paid from some hall show (and that hall shows cost probably ran well over 1000 dollars and Kenny probably lost money on it). Porphyria would probably not get paid for this gig whether Kenny was running it or not, Bane of Existence has played at the Palladium a few times and never saw a dime.



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Nov 4,2005 9:38pm
cannae is pretty gay...Didn't they play on the Obituary/Napalm Death show ?



toggletoggle post by kessaris   at Nov 5,2005 1:49am
hey, I think I can speak on this better than anyone since I have had my fair share of Kenny booked shows

Alright, as far as not getting paid by Kenny at shows, true. Kenny has never given me a dime as far as playing goes. He has however let me, any my band, play at shows. He gave us a chance to get on some good shows so thats cool. Never got a dime...never asked for a dime. Thats just how the REAL scene goes.

As for Porphyria. God forbid a GREAT band in the local scene try to go out there and do something for themselves. These guys are talented as fuck and have something that a lot of guys in this scene would kill to be apart of. They get on board a fucking awesome show that can really help them out. So what!? Anyone trying to put this show down, or put some bad publicity on it should just bite their lip. Not everything is about making a buck. Besides, last time I saw Porphyria at the Palladium they killed...and last time I saw Vital Remains at the palladium...was...well, I never seen them there because no one could book them and have them be able tos how up. So shut the fuck up. This is a good show. If you don't like it, don't worry about it. Porphyria is the shit. Hasta




toggletoggle post by Hung_TO_Bleed_NLI at Nov 5,2005 11:22am
Wasn't that from Monty Python "Let's not talk about whooooos killin' whooo....."



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 5,2005 3:35pm
Hung_TO_Bleed_NLI said:
Wasn't that from Monty Python "Let's not talk about whooooos killin' whooo....."


yes i was attempting to lighten shit in this thread, didnt work so well



toggletoggle post by ra in nyc at Nov 5,2005 4:54pm
8====D



toggletoggle post by blue  at Nov 5,2005 9:53pm
everyone touch themselves.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 6,2005 1:16am
blue said:
everyone touch themselves.


deal



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_logged_in at Nov 6,2005 8:07pm
anonymous said:
12/17/05 Worcester, MA United States Palladium


w/ Vital Remains, Incantation, Cannae, Byzantine, Porphyria, Skulltoboggan


Byzantine's on it now? They seem to be getting thrown on like every show and then removed. WTF?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 6,2005 11:03pm
as of this morning... this is all news to Vital Remains, not just this one, but ANY US dates, they have not agreed to any of them yet and for that matter thier drummer is going home to Cali as soon as thier European tour is over. They have no discussed playing here and never really even had any intentions too... and this is the conversation i had with Anthony as of 1pm this afternoon, i should have more details soon, ill try and keep it updated.

this goes for our show in Conn. with them as well, and the talk of the RI show... just figured id post this so people werent bitching if they dont actually happen. The booking company seems to be thowing the band on events before even consulting them.

I'm not saying they wont happen, but just a forewarning too all bands and others looking forward to seeing these shows. Again, i'll have more details within the next few days.



toggletoggle post by degenerate bastard at Nov 6,2005 11:27pm
KeithMutiny said:
as of this morning... this is all news to Vital Remains, not just this one, but ANY US dates, they have not agreed to any of them yet and for that matter thier drummer is going home to Cali as soon as thier European tour is over. They have no discussed playing here and never really even had any intentions too... and this is the conversation i had with Anthony as of 1pm this afternoon, i should have more details soon, ill try and keep it updated.

this goes for our show in Conn. with them as well, and the talk of the RI show... just figured id post this so people werent bitching if they dont actually happen. The booking company seems to be thowing the band on events before even consulting them.

I'm not saying they wont happen, but just a forewarning too all bands and others looking forward to seeing these shows. Again, i'll have more details within the next few days.

thats fuckin priceless .



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 6,2005 11:29pm
agreed



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 6,2005 11:31pm
yea, again... dont take that is they are not happening, because i truely hope they do. But, they are not confirmed yet, and this post is purely to update everyone, not to rain on anyones parade. Hell, im looking forward to playing, and we have to sell tickets, if it dont happen we're actually the band that gets fucked the most by it, with a whole bunch a kids lookin for a refund, ya know.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 6,2005 11:31pm
I only care about seeing Vital in PVD.



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 6,2005 11:33pm
BornSoVile said:
I only care about seeing Vital in PVD.


you mean CT, riiiiiiiiiiiight ha



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 7,2005 8:48am
the palladium just posted it on their website.

http://www.thepalladium.net/events.html



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 7,2005 8:52am
RustedAngel said:
the palladium just posted it on their website.

http://www.thepalladium.net/events.html


way to be in denial, it's posted on empress ballrooms website as well. i think talking to someone in the band...yeah they might know better.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 7,2005 9:04am
all I did was state that they posted the show on their website. It was just a statement not an argument.



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 7,2005 9:08am
RustedAngel said:
not an argument.


hard to tell these days with all the love being thrown around the board.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 7,2005 10:43am
i also did not state my conversation to start arguments, i just wanted people too know.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 7,2005 1:58pm
Is Glen Benton gonna be doing the vocals on this tour? I dont care for VR but if he is singing I'll go to see Satan himself.Is the Deicide ban in MA gonna end or what? Its been almost 6 years since theyve played here.



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 7,2005 3:11pm
no, glen isn't !



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Nov 7,2005 5:47pm
i was working on the r.i. show but couldn't come to an agreement with the booking agent & was told many didffernt things along the way before i finally decided not to do the show. from what i was told, tony's girlfriend was talking to the agent & relating things back to tony over in europe & thats how the shows were being booked. obviously theres alot of mis-communtication betweeen them & thats why i never confirmed it for r.i. sounds pretty sketchy to me...



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Nov 7,2005 6:05pm
anonymous said:
Is Glen Benton gonna be doing the vocals...I'll go to see Satan himself...


i'd definitely go if Satan was singing. but i'd rather not see that pussy Benton again...



toggletoggle post by brokenclown at Nov 7,2005 6:07pm
who is singing that show?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 7,2005 6:16pm
Anthony, the source of my information.



toggletoggle post by shred at Nov 7,2005 6:59pm
j0e n0tc0mm0n is a fuckin pussy



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 7,2005 7:57pm
diamond_dave said:
anonymous said:
Is Glen Benton gonna be doing the vocals...I'll go to see Satan himself...


i'd definitely go if Satan was singing. but i'd rather not see that pussy Benton again...


dave sometimes you make me wanna just give you a hug



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Nov 8,2005 11:24am
i emailed the booking agent about vital remains not knowing about the shows & his reply was that he deals with tony & tasha(tony's girlfriend) & they both know about the shows for ct. & ma. according to him both of the shows are happening. i dont know for sure whether its true or not but we'll have to wait & see..



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 8,2005 11:27am
thanks chris for keeping us updated.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Nov 8,2005 11:52am
Kenny needs to learn how to treate people and needs to stop lying to people

there's a lot more i can say but i'll refrain.

ps to joe: kenny doesn't allow guest lists



toggletoggle post by babyshaker at Nov 8,2005 12:51pm
diamond_dave said:
anonymous said:
Is Glen Benton gonna be doing the vocals...I'll go to see Satan himself...


i'd definitely go if Satan was singing. but i'd rather not see that pussy Benton again...


HAHA awesome



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 8,2005 12:57pm
No one knows anything about Deicide being banned here in MA?



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Nov 8,2005 1:36pm
anonymous said:
No one knows anything about Deicide being banned here in MA?


everybody knows...glen is the person banned from ma. not deicide. actually he's not really banned. its more like he doesn't want to come back because he thinks there is a warrent for his arrest for an apparent & alleged rape. at least thats what i've heard!!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 8,2005 2:43pm
Hes a dick for not wanting to come back here with Deicide.Me being a die hard Deicide fan is repulsed that they refuse to play a show here.What the fuck guy!!!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 8,2005 2:45pm
i used to love seeing them play Babyhead with Vital, tripping and seeing Deicide was one of the most intense moments ive ever had



toggletoggle post by chrisabomb at Nov 8,2005 3:41pm
club babyhead...so many memories....



toggletoggle post by MorbidMike  at Nov 8,2005 3:54pm
WHO THE FUCK IS READY FOR SOME DEATH METAL! P.S. THERE WAS DEFINATLY NO SUCKING KENNY LANNING OFF FOR ANY SHOW. BUT YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT FOR A SECOND I THOUGHT PLAYING MUSIC WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN AND ENTERTAINING BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG ITS ALL ABOUT BITCHING ABOUT SHITTY PROMOTERS WHO CAN THROW A DECENT SHOW AFTER PAYING OUT OF HIS POCKET GIVEN I AM NOT KENNY'S BEST FRIEND BUT EVERYONE OF US HAS IT WAY BETTER THAN THAT GUY SO I MEAN SHIT IF THE GUY WANTS TO EAT FOR A WEEK WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL-MORBID



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 8,2005 3:58pm
what was the point of that statement, honestly did i miss something or was the completely non sequitur?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Nov 8,2005 4:00pm
I agree punctuation and lowercase letters are overrated

what are we talking about?



toggletoggle post by BSV at Nov 8,2005 4:35pm
we're talking about giving a horrible promoter an 8th chance to book high caliber shows with really shitty local openers. that's what the scene is all about. anyone who doesn't support that is obviously a shithead and jealous.



toggletoggle post by Hung_TO_Bleed_NLI at Nov 8,2005 8:52pm
Yeah, we suck. We've done nothing to keep the scene alive



toggletoggle post by MorbidMike  at Nov 9,2005 9:10am edited Nov 9,2005 9:33am
"words not make men men, but actions can't we all just get along really now"



toggletoggle post by MorbidMike  at Nov 9,2005 9:12am
This was a general statement that I felt had to be made!



toggletoggle post by Ionsphere  at Nov 9,2005 9:16am
dude there is no death metal scene. they're only kids who complain and shit about how the New England metal scene sucks. when they're the ones that dont go to shows and support bands.

besides, ICANTPLAYSHIT sucks. thats not even a death metal band, its more like faggatory



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 13,2005 1:21pm
bump for dicks.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 13,2005 8:04pm
bump for kenny lanning toothless blowjobs



toggletoggle post by Phrozenspite at Nov 13,2005 11:20pm
December 16th 6 PM TBA VITAL REMAINS
Incantation, Hell Within, Death Before Dishonor & 2 TBA All Ages

looks like either Vital Remains are doing some shows or their booker is pulling some gay shit



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Nov 14,2005 3:36am
Haha forgot all about this one.

KeithMutiny said:
BestialOnslaught said:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but in comparison to TS, PORPHYRIA kinda deserves this!


thanks man, and then someday you'll actually see us and be able to possibly legitimize making statements like that as opposed to making blind comments.


Hey, I just didn't think this thread had enough drama in it!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 16,2005 11:50pm
Dec 16th @ The Kave, Bucksport, ME
VITAL REMAINS, INCANCATION, PORPHYRIA



toggletoggle post by BSV at Nov 17,2005 3:52pm
RustedAngel said:
Dec 16th @ The Kave, Bucksport, ME
VITAL REMAINS, INCANCATION, PORPHYRIA


does that mean you guys are dropping off this show???



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 17,2005 3:59pm
BSV said:
RustedAngel said:
Dec 16th @ The Kave, Bucksport, ME
VITAL REMAINS, INCANCATION, PORPHYRIA


does that mean you guys are dropping off this show???


naw, it means we're playing both dates.




toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 26,2005 1:46pm
here you go Josh foam over this haha

HIGH54CANCER: just seeing if there's still any open spots on the vital remains show at the kave
XReallyChaotic1X: are u a local band
HIGH54CANCER: local boston band
XReallyChaotic1X: ahhhhh well ken lanning is putting the show on here all i am doign is renting him the kave and putting on two local bands that can pre sell the tickets



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Nov 26,2005 3:10pm
HA! Fuckin Kenny.
I heard something interesting the other day.
Anyone heard anything about that band The Worst suddently playing the show at the Palladium. Could be a mistake or bullshit, if not, thats about as funny as Skulltobogin playing.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 26,2005 3:21pm
shred said:
j0e n0tc0mm0n is a fuckin pussy


What's wrong with your 'o' key?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 26,2005 3:30pm
he got your number though.

and kathy still rules.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 29,2005 10:27am
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
here you go Josh foam over this haha

HIGH54CANCER: just seeing if there's still any open spots on the vital remains show at the kave
XReallyChaotic1X: are u a local band
HIGH54CANCER: local boston band
XReallyChaotic1X: ahhhhh well ken lanning is putting the show on here all i am doign is renting him the kave and putting on two local bands that can pre sell the tickets


aren't you playing a show the same day in Natick, why would you ask about this?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 29,2005 10:28am
PIZZA AT THE KAVE RULES!




toggletoggle post by succubus  at Nov 29,2005 10:57am
remember the ghost i captured on tom?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 29,2005 11:00am
succubus said:
remember the ghost i captured on tom?


hahah yep!




toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 29,2005 11:05am edited Nov 29,2005 11:10am
seriously, is kenny doing the ME date too??
Yes, the Worst is playing 12/17 too, I'm gonna be sure to have a talk with Mister Tomaz...



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Nov 29,2005 11:20am
there it is!!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Nov 29,2005 11:42am
RustedAngel said:
succubus said:
remember the ghost i captured on tom?


hahah yep!



whoa!



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Nov 29,2005 12:34pm
gonna try and make that palladium date. I am seriously overdue to see Cannae.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 29,2005 4:27pm



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Nov 29,2005 4:30pm
hahahahha so even THE ANTICHRIST (hah) has a myspace?

Glen's pretty awesome though, he's wicked funny.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 29,2005 6:47pm
pam nli said:
gonna try and make that palladium date. I am seriously overdue to see Cannae.


Worst statement ever. It's wicked lame that metalcore bands always get added to Palladium shows.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 5,2005 4:23pm
http://www.myspace.com/vitalremains -- these shows have been posted on their myspace, we know know they are aware of these shows.



toggletoggle post by Spiced Rum Runners at Dec 5,2005 4:27pm
I'm mezmerized. Any explanation for this?




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 8,2005 11:31pm
8=D



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 12,2005 1:18pm
this weekend.



toggletoggle post by hungta‘bleed at Dec 12,2005 4:41pm
thats right..... this weekend.....
New BMR track 'Exhume the Fallen' at:
http://www.myspace.com/burnmyremains
tell us how terrible it is on this thread:
http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=24723



toggletoggle post by rigor penis at Dec 12,2005 6:54pm
this just in vital just got another new bald vocalist HOWIE MANDEL vocalist number 18!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 13,2005 3:08pm
rigor penis said:


rigor penis, exactly what rigor mortis sounds like live.




toggletoggle post by SPALDINO at Dec 13,2005 4:31pm



toggletoggle post by ra at Dec 13,2005 9:01pm
shish-ka-bob



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Dec 13,2005 11:55pm
the worst is on this show too, not sure if you wanna add them to the flyer.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 14,2005 2:39pm
the_reverend will be naked at this show.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 14,2005 2:39pm
I heard.



toggletoggle post by Todd NLI at Dec 14,2005 3:02pm
I'm goin...I got a free ticket from a friend ,So I will be there,It has been 3 years since I seen Incantation,man time flies,don't seem that long ago. Can't wait for this show



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 14,2005 4:56pm
sweet!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 15,2005 10:03am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 15,2005 10:09am
tom. I will leave it to you to tell kenny that I'm coming and to have a ticket for me to get in.
Is this upstairs? I'm guessing it is.



toggletoggle post by that guy at Dec 15,2005 10:54am
Hey nice file delete Tom also I will let the toothless agressor know rev as well.



toggletoggle post by hungta‘bleed at Dec 15,2005 11:13am
has anyone ever taken a shit at the palladium? I coped out last time I was there and I just held it in. What can I say...I didn't want to get aids



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 15,2005 11:26am
the_reverend said:
tom. I will leave it to you to tell kenny that I'm coming and to have a ticket for me to get in.
Is this upstairs? I'm guessing it is.


I'm sure you'll be fine, if you aren't find one of us or someone in a band. If all that fails for some gay reason we'll pay for you to get in. Though I doubt it will come to that.



toggletoggle post by hungta‘bleed at Dec 15,2005 7:21pm
b.u.m.p.



toggletoggle post by hungta‘bleed at Dec 17,2005 12:25am
BMR actually has fucking shirts. I know, I know..we don't even have a cd, but what the fuck do you expect from a bunch of fuckin stoners. Here is the design.

We also have the same logo available, but with our band name filled in solid white.
Check out our new shit 'Exhume the Fallen' @ http://www.myspace.com/burnmyremains
...... I know it's got nothing on the new Burn in Silence.... but it's not that fucking bad.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 17,2005 2:09pm
skeet skeet



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 17,2005 4:06pm
I'm leaving in like an 1:30.
I will assume that some one will tell kenny that I'm coming.

at the mall now. this shit stucks.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 17,2005 4:10pm
BornSoVile said:
Skulltoboggin...young band


yeah they're older than like everyone on here



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 17,2005 4:18pm
also, i understand everyone's argument against kenny

but how bad can he really fuck over a band if you're not expecting to get paid...basically you're just using him to play a show at the palladium with some top notch bands in the area



toggletoggle post by CarrotsandSticks  at Dec 17,2005 4:48pm
I was at the mall today too. I want to die now, but instead I'm leaving in an hour for this show.



toggletoggle post by todayistheday at Dec 17,2005 5:20pm
ugggh still deciding if i want to go



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 17,2005 5:32pm
leaving in 5 minutes



toggletoggle post by dftg at Dec 17,2005 5:35pm
todayistheday said:
ugggh still deciding if i want to go


same here



toggletoggle post by dftg at Dec 17,2005 5:35pm
somebody gimme money when i get there, otherwise I can't really afford it



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 17,2005 5:51pm
aaron left and i know he won't be ok..but the old skool staff will let him in



toggletoggle post by todayistheday at Dec 17,2005 6:30pm
FUCK i guess im not going



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 17,2005 6:31pm
will be there in 35 minutes.
my head is fucking killing me



toggletoggle post by Todd NLI at Dec 17,2005 6:54pm
My ride is no where to be found, So I am not goin either



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 17,2005 7:40pm
Kenny is gonna get stabbed if he does not pay the bands what he is supposed to !!



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 17,2005 8:00pm
succubus said:
aaron left and i know he won't be ok..but the old skool staff will let him in


FYI
i was right






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