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returntothepit >> discuss >> News Article: the feds what control broadband access on planes by the_reverend on Jul 12,2005 12:28pm
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toggletoggle post by norwellbob  at Jul 12,2005 12:39pm
oh, no... the gov't wants the ability to eavesdrop on my internet comms on an airplane! 1984, here we come!

dude, that's not really a big deal. in, say, the 5 hours it takes to fly to Cali, what do you NEED to do over the net that you don't want the government to be able to see if they're suddenly suspicious (i.e. you have a turban)?

would you be upset about the gov't being able to eavesdrop on, say, free wireless provided in a government building?

i guess i can sort of see your point, but i think we need to pick our battles. when they want to tap everything (and who says they aren't already), then it's time for the revolution.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 12,2005 12:42pm
What about that pervert who was in the dept. of defense?
I don't really want some government official jacking off cause I send carina a dirty e-mail on a plane.

these are just small steps to something bigger.



toggletoggle post by ~Carina~ at Jul 12,2005 12:45pm
if it's to protect people against terrorists...then why is it scary, aaron?

i'm with norwell bob on this one..
do you even care if they see what yer looking at on your PC?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 12,2005 12:50pm
hey, if you don't see that it's bad for people to have access to see what you are doing on the net, that's you deal.
I for one don't and won't like it.

I guess no one else read the reports on that last Bush nominey who didn't get the job cause he had been making very questionable requests for people's records.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 12,2005 1:01pm



toggletoggle post by ~Carina~ at Jul 12,2005 1:02pm
well it's no one's business really

but i'm not looking at kiddie porn or anything i should be ashamed off, so why would i care?

this reminds me of the other thing you posted recently...



toggletoggle post by norwellbob  at Jul 12,2005 1:26pm
I agree with the basis of your argument, but my point is, this is on a plane, not your house. The broadband access on the plane is not "yours".

If you use Starbucks' wireless LAN, they have a right to watch what you're doing... it's their network backbone. Just like where I work... I can monitor what everybody on my network is doing (I'm the IT guy here). It's almost incumbent upon me to do so, to ensure that people aren't giving away company secrets or proprietary information, exposing our network to malware and virii, or surfing porn which could land us in a nasty litigation. The employees have no real "right" to privacy on our network, although I allow them a fair amount of it (I don't snoop unnecessarily). It's in the company handbook that we possess the capability to monitor network usage, so if employees don't like it, tough luck.

If the FAA decides that it's in the best interest of their "parent company" (US Gov't), the airlines, and their "customers" (we the People) to monitor communications provided by an entity that is under their jurisdiction, then I have no problem with it. I don't want them to see what I'm doing online? OK, I won't use my laptop on an airplane. That's a privelige, not a right. Again, it's not "my" broadband.

So, you see, it's not exactly black and white... there's plenty of grey in there.



toggletoggle post by norwellbob  at Jul 13,2005 9:35am
Ooh, did I win?



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Jul 13,2005 9:45am
hey Bob! Q: what did the ($#^%$ say to the other @#)^!@



toggletoggle post by norwellbob  at Jul 13,2005 9:52am
Messerschmitt said:
hey Bob! Q: what did the ($#^%$ say to the other @#)^!@



men?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jul 13,2005 9:53am
There will probably be certain words you type and certain sites you visit that will 'flag' you and they will probably randomly check a few flagged items in the course of an hour.

I seriusly doubt it will be like enemy of the state. with a crew of guys zooming in on how well your shoes are tied.



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Jul 13,2005 9:53am
HOLY SHIT!



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